Massage Parlor Reports

[Outdoorsman]

Despite having indulged in the pleasures of our hobby for many years both here and abroad I had never until recently had any significant negative experiences.

This all changed when earlier this year I noticed some small white spots on the head of my penis.

Long story short these were HPV warts and the results of BBBJ at GG. How do I know this for sure. Well despite using OB where the girls use covers this is the only service where I have indulged in uncovered sex.

The spots developed into small mushroom like growths which have resulted in laser surgery. I had a session a month ago and have another shortly. The surgery cost c $1000 per shot.

Now it may be that I was particularly open to these infections and others may be able to indulge with no consequences, but please be aware that this is entirely possible. S.

Ping me if you require more info.

Stay safe RJ.

Sorry you're dealing with that but thanks for pointing out to the rest of us a reminder of the risks.

[Outdoorsman]

They take the standard entrance fee. For the tip, it is the current market rate. The good thing about this place is it is in a nice strip mall with good parking. Plenty of legitimate businesses around it so casual observers do not automatically assume where you are going. The therapist's looks are at about 90% of what BO and GG offer, but the service is good.

A general suggestion for visiting all AMPs: do a quick recon before you go in. Drive around the block or take a U-turn down the road and check for any local constabulary presence or other signs of trouble (I. E. A group of Uncle Leos parked together at the local Target).

Be safe.

I've never paid more than 120 for FS there. That's what I'll pay or we can go with 40 for standard ending which has happened. I also think how the provider feels above it you makes a diff. I hear often from the girls American men are too fat you're not or you're funny. I know they are workers but do think many times some sort of connection makes a big difference.

[Outdoorsman]

They take the standard entrance fee. For the tip, it is the current market rate. The good thing about this place is it is in a nice strip mall with good parking. Plenty of legitimate businesses around it so casual observers do not automatically assume where you are going. The therapist's looks are at about 90% of what BO and GG offer, but the service is good.

A general suggestion for visiting all AMPs: do a quick recon before you go in. Drive around the block or take a U-turn down the road and check for any local constabulary presence or other signs of trouble (I. E. A group of Uncle Leos parked together at the local Target).

Be safe.

I've never paid more than 120 for FS there. That's what I'll pay or we can go with 40 for standard ending which has happened. I also think how the provider feels above it you makes a diff. I hear often from the girls American men are too fat you're not or you're funny. I know they are workers but do think many times some sort of connection makes a big difference.

[Outdoorsman]

Besides the high prices of the Big 4, there is one, very disturbing cautionary tale to discuss. There is a very high probabilty that the Big 4 (one or all) will be raided and shut down, and capture some of my brothers here while visiting for a little stress relief. I even read an article in Seattle, where Uncle LEO, after closing down a place, re-opened it with a new name for the sole purpose of catching customers in the act (and they arrested 155 customers).

Uncle LEO will not focus on 2nd tier locations, independents nor UTR providers. They want the biggest bang for the buck. They will go to a busy place, let's say a place that has a GEICO office next door (I envision the manager of that office is Alice Kravitz, of Bewitched: nosy neighbor), invite the news media, and with cameras rolling, break into the place and arrest everyone there. Now, this is not a conviction, but an arrest. Do you want your face on TV being arrested? I do not. And good luck telling those who saw you on TV that you are innocent.

The owners of the Big 4 do not care about us, they want to make their fast cash, and when the going gets tough, they will move on to another area. They are true carpet baggers.

Now, of course, some who post here, will still not believe this will happen. They will be like sheep not recognizing the wolf nearby. I am your sheep dog (more like an Anatolian Shepherd), here to protect my friends here. If given an option, don't take the red pill (stay in Wonderland), take the blue pill, and wake up to reality (The Matrix reference).

Be safe everyone.

Seattle Times (2016): https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ing-operation/.

Embargo won't work. In the battle versus pussy, pussy is undefeated. A VW and Mercedes are both German cars and both will get you from here to there. Drive what makes you happy and you can afford to. Guys just go we’re you want, spend what you care to or can afford to.

[Gentleman 100]

I have been to Blue Ocean 3 times and I will admit the lack of pretense with this place is a little worrisome. They hide nothing, you walk in there and the only explainable reason is to fuck a hot Asian girl.

There's no 10 minutes of massage then being asked to turn over and then the girl whispers in your ear " what do you want? None of that, you get your dick sucked on the table shower, then it immediately continues in the room. If OPD sends a cop in there, it's over in 5 minutes. Add to the fact that Geico most likely grows more and more weary of their neighbor every day you have to think they have called the authorities asking them to look into that business.

On the other hand, it's still there so what do I know?

I just wanted to make a quick point. I appreciate the fact that we have Tier 1 AMPs here. My largest concern is the blatant, obvious service you get as soon as you step in the door.

A better business model is a discreet system. You go into a place that has licensed therapists dressed professionally (scrubs?). They do the TS, then take you to the therapy room. You lie down on your stomach, and they give you the type of massage you want. During the massage, they accidently rub the boys to see if you want to play. You tell them what you want. Deal closed.

The way most Tier 1 AMPs operate, it is likely to get the unwanted attention of those who do not want their services in our city. Be safe.

[Herbie53]

Brothers, relax and take a deep breath.

These stings were in 2016 and 2017. Both were setup by the police after the existing AMPs shut down (the reason for the shutdown is immaterial), and then reopened them "under new management" or whatever horseshit slogan they used. It should have set off all kind of alarms in a brother's big head. Both police departments also used Backpage to attract customers. It's likely that those customers were many of the same ones that used the old AMPs, and were happy read they were open again, and assumed that they were the same, but "better," or New and Improved! You can't fix stupid.

Now, none of the arrests at these AMPs were because of a raid. Both were sting operations. That means that customers voluntarily and happily visited to be arrested, and the police kindly obliged. Customers undoubtedly said the wrong thing, answered one of the test questions incorrectly, and / or grabbed a handful of passion fruit, and got busted. Old habits die hard when one is in what they falsely believe to be familiar surroundings. They were not familiar, they were new. Complacency is to brothers like Kryptonite is to Superman. Both should always be avoided.

Lesson one? Never forget the rules regarding what you answer and what you ask. Be wary of new AMPs that open, especially when at or near, where an existing one was shut down or recently closed. A new AMP in a new area should also be approached cautiously. Those are exploratory, low level missions with a report of findings here on USASG.

If an AMP is getting to be too much of a problem child, LE knows that if enough outside pressure is applied, AMPs will pick up and move to where there is less pressure, no raids or arrests needed. It's cheaper, faster and more cost effective to do that than raid a place, where even if convicted, probation is more likely than jail time. If LE wants an AMP to move out of the area, they can do that by just keeping a marked unit presence nearby and visible, causing a drop in business. No business can exist for very long without a steady stream of customers. Raids are unlikely, but cutting the flow of customers at a nuisance business that is a shady operation, is doable, easy, fast, and relatively inexpensive. After a few weeks of a trickle or no customers, it's time to move on.

Lesson two? Both of those stings used Backpage to advertise. What's one of the most common complaints we read on here? Where are the service providers advertising now! Brothers, if we can't figure that out, don't expect LE to do that either. They always go for the lowest hanging fruit on the tree. By getting Craigslist and Backpage shut down, they also effectively reduced their ability to run their own sting operations. Again, you can't fix stupid.

If there is by some cruel act of the universe, a raid and you happen to be there, say nothing but that you visited to get a massage. Nothing else. You've committed no crime they can prove, and getting a massage is not a crime. While it's possible an undercover LEO visited at an earlier time and is there to arrest a provider, which would be the only reason for a raid as they can't prove customers were committing crimes, they have no charges on you if you don't confess. You have the right to remain silent. Use it. If there is a raid, you will have to give your name, etc, because you are a "witness" or non-involved party, but you're not going to be arrested unless you proclaim "I paid for sex!" Regardless, the chance of a raid is probably less than getting hit by lightning in Florida. It's more likely LE will just keep a marked unit parked across the street, on the median, or on the sidewalk (because they can do that), to drive customers away if they want shut down the AMP.

All these AMPs have good security cameras with good coverage outside. They will see "it" coming if it happens. If it does, the providers will be in their scrubs uniform in under 30 seconds, remove any wrapper, tell you to get on your tummy, drape a towel across your ass, tell you to shut up, then be working the large muscle groups when the door flies open. The dream doesn't have to be a nightmare if one stays cool. Those news stories are what LE mainly uses to keep brothers wary, as they have neither the time, money, or resources to do stings on a regular basis, especially the the penalties are so light, and Craigslist and Backpage are gone.

"That's the rest of the story" as Paul Harvey would say.

[BuckNastee]

Despite having indulged in the pleasures of our hobby for many years both here and abroad I had never until recently had any significant negative experiences.

This all changed when earlier this year I noticed some small white spots on the head of my penis.

Long story short these were HPV warts and the results of BBBJ at GG. How do I know this for sure. Well despite using OB where the girls use covers this is the only service where I have indulged in uncovered sex.

The spots developed into small mushroom like growths which have resulted in laser surgery. I had a session a month ago and have another shortly. The surgery cost c $1000 per shot.

Now it may be that I was particularly open to these infections and others may be able to indulge with no consequences, but please be aware that this is entirely possible. S.

Ping me if you require more info.

Stay safe RJ.

Eddie Murphy comes to mind in "Raw" https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/embed/5...?autoplay=true

[BuckNastee]

PM me and let me know which ones you are referring to.

LOL I already gave you the bread crumbs. Past 528 south. You will see 3 on the left a block from each other. Turn right at BOA is the 4th one. You go past Pepper hill you went to far. Don't think I can be more blatant.

[DSC63]

If you don't mind the drive there are 4 locations S. OBT within a 2 mile radius. All reasonable priced 40- 50 hh. From 528 to Pepper hill rd. Headed south.

PM me and let me know which ones you are referring to.

[Yo Warn]

Despite having indulged in the pleasures of our hobby for many years both here and abroad I had never until recently had any significant negative experiences.

This all changed when earlier this year I noticed some small white spots on the head of my penis.

Long story short these were HPV warts and the results of BBBJ at GG. How do I know this for sure. Well despite using OB where the girls use covers this is the only service where I have indulged in uncovered sex.

The spots developed into small mushroom like growths which have resulted in laser surgery. I had a session a month ago and have another shortly. The surgery cost c $1000 per shot.

Now it may be that I was particularly open to these infections and others may be able to indulge with no consequences, but please be aware that this is entirely possible. S.

Ping me if you require more info.

Stay safe RJ.

Hate to break it to you but a condom does not 100% protect against any of the 100's of stains of hpv. You can get it from a hand job if they have a wart on their hand. Even with a condom you have a large area of skin to skin contact.

Without the hpv vaccine you are picking up a few stains by going to one of these places. Who knows if the girls are all vaccinated, and even if they are, it only protects against a handful of strains.

Almost everyone has a strain or two, just some are unlucky with how their immune system handles it. Sorry that you'll be dealing with that for a long time. They don't stop coming for many.

[FieryStud]

Searching the web, I found a more recent article about a 7 Stars spa in Houston (October 2017). After raiding it, HPD set up a fake AMP and arrested 139 customers (including an off-duty HPD officer).

I am telling you, be careful about going to the Big 4. They are danger close (field artillery reference).

I am done with my preaching on this.

Be safe out there.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...l-12310203.php

I understand your concern but I just have a clarification. Both the reports say that they caught hundreds of men over 10 days. So how does it work?

I mean, the moment they catch a few John's on day 1, the news spreads out right? Where do they keep / hide the men whom they caught on the first day, until the sting duration of 10 days, so as not to let the news out? Or, is it that they don't arrest any one until the sting gets over but keep track of the men and arrest all of them on the last day of the sting?

I'm sorry if I sound stupid, but I'm reading about a 10 day sting for the first time. So I'm confused. All I know / heard of is about stings that just lasts for a few hours.

Stay safe! Happy hunting!

[LexRyde]

Despite having indulged in the pleasures of our hobby for many years both here and abroad I had never until recently had any significant negative experiences.

This all changed when earlier this year I noticed some small white spots on the head of my penis.

Long story short these were HPV warts and the results of BBBJ at GG. How do I know this for sure. Well despite using OB where the girls use covers this is the only service where I have indulged in uncovered sex.

The spots developed into small mushroom like growths which have resulted in laser surgery. I had a session a month ago and have another shortly. The surgery cost c $1000 per shot.

Now it may be that I was particularly open to these infections and others may be able to indulge with no consequences, but please be aware that this is entirely possible. S.

Ping me if you require more info.

Stay safe RJ.

Sucks to hear that, no pun intended. That's one main reason I veer away from AMP or any Massage Parlor and get no more than a good massage and H. E. I did try Marina out yesterday, just for a BBBJCIM but felt pretty dirty about it after. LOL I could've stayed home and jacked instead. It's a risk going into these AMP's that everyone on here go to. Especially the streetwalkers, hell no. My dick is worth more than to stick it in a hooker. I've kept a few massage therapists over the years of being in Orlando that are my UTR's, even branches from the Tara days at Body Escape. Good luck man. Stay safe all.

[Horsetrader]

Be safe everyone.

Seattle Times (2016): https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ing-operation/.

Be safe out there.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...l-12310203.php

Thanks to Gentleman 100, we have two good published articles.

The Seattle article seems most relevant to me. It clearly said that the women were offering specific sex acts for specific amounts of money. If the customer accepted the price and services, the customer was arrested. I had believed that that practice would be grounds for dismissal in a court case. It also seems that the business transitioned from Asian providers to Caucasian providers.

In the future, I'll stick with the Asian places where the girls have a thick accent and it is difficult to understand what they are saying. I also won't negotiate specific prices for specific services, even if she gives me the price list. In that case, my big head will tell my feet to start walking out the door, but the little head just might overrule the big head.

[HotLuck54]

I found the Cleaning Lady cost comment to be funny. As if After Hours Office Cleaning services are coming in. The ladies typically clean when it's not busy, which makes you wonder about the places that are super busy. Walked into one place a few months ago and two ladies were mopping floors and cleaning windows. They both worked there as massage therapists. Either that or I'm hiring that cleaning company.

I agree about the other overhead though. Also all of those legit massage licenses too.

-USTraveller.

BO has a full time Older asian lady on cleanup. The girls take care of the room. CL takes care of laundry, supplies. I got stuck in the back room with her one busy night. No, not that way. I wouldn't with your Dick. CL also keeps tabs on the 6 camera Security monitor located above the storage rack. 2 front South, 2 East side, 2 rear North. Didn't see a Red Panic Button. Wouldn't surprise me it's there. Maybe an Ol' WWII submarine Klaxon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2VhB7vaZI0 Dive Dive!

HL54.

[Lover520]

WB stands for Well Body Spa.

WB=Well Bady Spa=Kissimmee massage spa.