"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Magic Rat]

Old bull and young bull standing on a hill looking at the cows below. Young bull says "let's run down there and fuck one"! Old bull says "let's walk down there and fuck them all".

I liked your story and admire your ability to get to fc w / her, but what's the joke?

[Tidad]

They don't want to be treated like a hooker, while simultaneously taking cash for sex.

These "SD's" brought this on themselves. I guess some of them just missed their exwives so much they had to bring drama into what used to be the simplest thing on the planet.

I've had chicks write me DEMANDING that posts get taken down because somebody said they were a hooker and when I asked if they were paid for sex they reply "yes, but that doesn't make me a hooker."

Every single time you see some guy write "real SB" for a chick that has many clients they are deluded. SB's are hookers, SD's are johns, it's just guys needing to think they are "better." If the chick was a "real SD" she wouldn't have an ad, she would have A guy (one guy) paying the bills.

A2

These girls all want to separate themselves from "those slutty girls":

Nothing beats the time I was in bed between fucks w / one of my all time faves. She was bitching about her roommate bringing different guys home every night-she's such a ****, I just can't stand it!" meanwhile I'm paying this chicks rent $120 at a time! The only reason I didn't say something about a **** being "a ***** that fucks for free" is that at that very moment she was a super fit blonde naked in my bed with my cock in her hand. Some of you might remember her. Out the game but not forgotten.

[EasyGuy69]

Anyone had contact with this one lately? Saw her a few times then went dark. Pm me if you have any contact / details. Thanks.

[BagIt]

I liked your story and admire your ability to get to fc w / her, but what's the joke?

Exactly how I became an unexpected SD.

I ate at the bar at the same NC costal restaurant when ever I was in town on business. Became really friendly with the owners, managers, bartenders & waitress.

Flirted a lot with one particular waitress who would also bartender now and then. Your typical college student on the struggle bus big time. She mentioned one night she needed dog food for her Golden Retriever. I also have one so mentioned what brand we fed ours and she mentioned what she feeds hers.

I left later that night and grabbed a 40 lb bag and left it next to her car with a note, "your too nice a girl to work so hard at school & here and still have to worry about dog food. ", also with my cell.

She texted my that night when she saw it that I was so sweet. Asked if I'd be in town the next day to do coffee. I said I was busy in the morning, how about lunch.

Long story short, I didn't rush it and after a couple more platonic meetings she slapped a lip lock on me when I was giving her a hug good bye. What I found out being patient is her live in BF had some bad sexual history and even though she is a 10 across the boards, was more interested in being top of his class and getting in to Med school than on top of this gorgeous, young co-ed. Also really standard sexual fare when he did deliver.

I love that she's with him. I don't think I could continue if she was single and doing the whole Tinder thing.

From then on she's come rob see me at the hotel, 3-8 hours at a time. Everything I want, BB, Greek. OMG!

Most of these young guys don't know how to take their time and really appreciate a beautiful young lady. She is literally half my age. My favorite thing is getting outfits for her. She's even an ex Hooter's girl (lasted three weeks) and brought the uniform to play time. Cross that one off the bucket list👍.

Now two and a half years plus we are still going strong. I help her with $ but I bet if I calculated what I've gave her vs what I spend with her for time it's like $20 an hour. Many times she tells me no thanks, I'll let you know if I get in a bind. After about six months she dropped the L word.

Her BF was away for five weeks recently and we got to spend about 8 nights together & over a dozen days. Even an overnight in Myrtle Beach. So funny to be in public together when someone picks up the vibe that we're a couple not father / daughter.

So I totally agree DavidS78. There are some hidden gems out there. She told me she reached out to me originally because she was bored and sick of being hit on by young guys. That she just thought I was a nice guy but as we met she could tell I wouldn't turn her down if she made the first move.

Please no PMs for her info. Just a long entry to give some brothers hope outside of the SA / GPS girls. If I can pull it off at my age and I'm no Brad Pitt, you guys can.

I think being patient and having a long game was key. If I was aggressive early on I'd would have been like all the other older guys that hit on her because she is beautiful and has an ass like a high schooler. The yoga pants she wears at the restaurant should come with a concealed carry permit!

You know the old bull, young bull joke is right on!

[DoggieFan]

Completely agree. It's a transaction-based relationship. No money / gifts = no pussy or FC. Most of the conversations happening in other cities on the board are just about how much per meet. That's a hooker. You don't need to pay 90 bucks for a site membership either. These girls are all working for shit wages in retail and service industries. Get them to talk about tight money and you can move the conversation towards paying for some pussy.

Exactly how I became an unexpected SD.

I ate at the bar at the same NC costal restaurant when ever I was in town on business. Became really friendly with the owners, managers, bartenders & waitress.

Flirted a lot with one particular waitress who would also bartender now and then. Your typical college student on the struggle bus big time. She mentioned one night she needed dog food for her Golden Retriever. I also have one so mentioned what brand we fed ours and she mentioned what she feeds hers.

I left later that night and grabbed a 40 lb bag and left it next to her car with a note, "your too nice a girl to work so hard at school & here and still have to worry about dog food. ", also with my cell.

She texted my that night when she saw it that I was so sweet. Asked if I'd be in town the next day to do coffee. I said I was busy in the morning, how about lunch.

Long story short, I didn't rush it and after a couple more platonic meetings she slapped a lip lock on me when I was giving her a hug good bye. What I found out being patient is her live in BF had some bad sexual history and even though she is a 10 across the boards, was more interested in being top of his class and getting in to Med school than on top of this gorgeous, young co-ed. Also really standard sexual fare when he did deliver.

I love that she's with him. I don't think I could continue if she was single and doing the whole Tinder thing.

From then on she's come rob see me at the hotel, 3-8 hours at a time. Everything I want, BB, Greek. OMG!

Most of these young guys don't know how to take their time and really appreciate a beautiful young lady. She is literally half my age. My favorite thing is getting outfits for her. She's even an ex Hooter's girl (lasted three weeks) and brought the uniform to play time. Cross that one off the bucket list👍.

Now two and a half years plus we are still going strong. I help her with $ but I bet if I calculated what I've gave her vs what I spend with her for time it's like $20 an hour. Many times she tells me no thanks, I'll let you know if I get in a bind. After about six months she dropped the L word.

Her BF was away for five weeks recently and we got to spend about 8 nights together & over a dozen days. Even an overnight in Myrtle Beach. So funny to be in public together when someone picks up the vibe that we're a couple not father / daughter.

So I totally agree DavidS78. There are some hidden gems out there. She told me she reached out to me originally because she was bored and sick of being hit on by young guys. That she just thought I was a nice guy but as we met she could tell I wouldn't turn her down if she made the first move.

Please no PMs for her info. Just a long entry to give some brothers hope outside of the SA / GPS girls. If I can pull it off at my age and I'm no Brad Pitt, you guys can.

I think being patient and having a long game was key. If I was aggressive early on I'd would have been like all the other older guys that hit on her because she is beautiful and has an ass like a high schooler. The yoga pants she wears at the restaurant should come with a concealed carry permit!

You know the old bull, young bull joke is right on!

[FarFarAway]

Completely agree. It's a transaction-based relationship. No money / gifts = no pussy or FC. Most of the conversations happening in other cities on the board are just about how much per meet. That's a hooker. You don't need to pay 90 bucks for a site membership either. These girls are all working for shit wages in retail and service industries. Get them to talk about tight money and you can move the conversation towards paying for some pussy.

Please explain why I don't need a membership to SA (well, seeking, now). I don't often have a paid membership, and have tried other means to find SBs. CL is gone. I have a profile on Secret Benefits but you must pay there to message. I just joined Established Men, it's about the same as seeking. And I find profiles there that are clearly fake, like the old CL ads that had lightly masked email addresses that just spam back to you.

I have been on a site called pantydeal, where girls sell pics, vids, and mail you panties. I have messaged w / a zillion, the problem is that they don't allow searches other than by country, so you waste a lot of time and effort on people who aren't anywhere you could meet. I travel so at times I have been where they are, but I haven't ever gotten one converted to a meeting, even, much less a FC trip.

[RogerOver]

They don't want to be treated like a hooker, while simultaneously taking cash for sex.

These "SD's" brought this on themselves. I guess some of them just missed their exwives so much they had to bring drama into what used to be the simplest thing on the planet.

I've had chicks write me DEMANDING that posts get taken down because somebody said they were a hooker and when I asked if they were paid for sex they reply "yes, but that doesn't make me a hooker."

Every single time you see some guy write "real SB" for a chick that has many clients they are deluded. SB's are hookers, SD's are johns, it's just guys needing to think they are "better." If the chick was a "real SD" she wouldn't have an ad, she would have A guy (one guy) paying the bills.

A2

Completely agree. It's a transaction-based relationship. No money / gifts = no pussy or FC. Most of the conversations happening in other cities on the board are just about how much per meet. That's a hooker. You don't need to pay 90 bucks for a site membership either. These girls are all working for shit wages in retail and service industries. Get them to talk about tight money and you can move the conversation towards paying for some pussy.

[Virginia Guy]

I turned on my premium membership again. Met up with SilkRose25. She is a tall and thick girl. Very new to the game. Did a quick car date since she needed money. Any intel on other SA girls worth the time, please PM me.

Thanks.

[DavidS78]

So what's up with "respect" in girl's profiles?

E. g. "looking for respectful SD", "a guy that will respect me", or anything else with "respectful"?

I have a theory but I wonder if others have an insight into this.

They don't want to be treated like a hooker, while simultaneously taking cash for sex.

These "SD's" brought this on themselves. I guess some of them just missed their exwives so much they had to bring drama into what used to be the simplest thing on the planet.

I've had chicks write me DEMANDING that posts get taken down because somebody said they were a hooker and when I asked if they were paid for sex they reply "yes, but that doesn't make me a hooker."

Every single time you see some guy write "real SB" for a chick that has many clients they are deluded. SB's are hookers, SD's are johns, it's just guys needing to think they are "better." If the chick was a "real SD" she wouldn't have an ad, she would have A guy (one guy) paying the bills.

A2

[FarFarAway]

In my experience, FC is not guaranteed until she meet you in person and liked you.

It's like anything. Don't treat her like a *****. I treat mine like a date, civvy dating (which I haven't done in 20 years, since I got married). It's all negotiable. You have to have game. Everyone gets the bowl they prepare for. You'll get only cheap ****** if that's how you approach girls. I have bedded many model-quality women from the site, most in their 30's. I would never have come in sniffing range of their cooch if I took your approach. I see girl's profiles that even say "don't treat me like a ***** and I won't treat you like an ATM".

[EvilTmp]

A girl used word respectful. She was upset when I denied to help her rent bill on first M&G. She thinks I'm respectful if I would have helped her with rent. I was like, Sorry I am ok staying disrespectful on your openion LOL.

In my opinion it's probably something along the lines of "you'll respect me by not asking for intimacy and I'll show you how much I respect you by asking for money just for being in my presence". I suspect that's what a "respectful SD" is.

[CrazySpice]

A girl used word respectful. She was upset when I denied to help her rent bill on first M&G. She thinks I'm respectful if I would have helped her with rent. I was like, Sorry I am ok staying disrespectful on your openion LOL.

So what's up with "respect" in girl's profiles?

E. g. "looking for respectful SD", "a guy that will respect me", or anything else with "respectful"?

I have a theory but I wonder if others have an insight into this.

[CrazySpice]

In my experience, FC is not guaranteed until she meet you in person and liked you.

When a girl mentions "nothing serious" in her SA profile what does it actually mean? I was under the impression that it meant they are not willing to go to FC, so I usually skip profiles with that phrase. Now I see that phrase almost half of the profiles there, I am having second thoughts. Any thoughts? Anyone taken a girl to FC who said "nothing serious"?

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

[CrazySpice]

Had same experience. Pics are real. Had video call conversation, shown all private parts and dirty talk with fiv. At the end asked 50 for gas and then gone ghost.

Anyone know this girl?

She text a good game but seems really flake Lee and possibly a scammer.

https://www.seeking.com/member/52375...4-200e1c5ddce9

[CantWinLosin]

So what's up with "respect" in girl's profiles?

E. g. "looking for respectful SD", "a guy that will respect me", or anything else with "respectful"?

I have a theory but I wonder if others have an insight into this.

Like all of those "trigger words", you have to read the whole profile and try to extract some context. "Respect" can mean anything from "purely platonic only" to "you won't maul me in the parking lot on the M&G. " In my experience, it most often means that you won't expect or demand a hook-up or P4 P blow-and-go for the first meeting and will treat her with the same sort of respect you'd treat a civvie you were trying to "date" in the traditional sense.