Massage Parlor Reports

[Bjceb]

Besides the high prices of the Big 4, there is one, very disturbing cautionary tale to discuss. There is a very high probabilty that the Big 4 (one or all) will be raided and shut down, and capture some of my brothers here while visiting for a little stress relief. I even read an article in Seattle, where Uncle LEO, after closing down a place, re-opened it with a new name for the sole purpose of catching customers in the act (and they arrested 155 customers).

Uncle LEO will not focus on 2nd tier locations, independents nor UTR providers. They want the biggest bang for the buck. They will go to a busy place, let's say a place that has a GEICO office next door (I envision the manager of that office is Alice Kravitz, of Bewitched: nosy neighbor), invite the news media, and with cameras rolling, break into the place and arrest everyone there. Now, this is not a conviction, but an arrest. Do you want your face on TV being arrested? I do not. And good luck telling those who saw you on TV that you are innocent.

The owners of the Big 4 do not care about us, they want to make their fast cash, and when the going gets tough, they will move on to another area. They are true carpet baggers.

Now, of course, some who post here, will still not believe this will happen. They will be like sheep not recognizing the wolf nearby. I am your sheep dog (more like an Anatolian Shepherd), here to protect my friends here. If given an option, don't take the red pill (stay in Wonderland), take the blue pill, and wake up to reality (The Matrix reference).

Be safe everyone.

Seattle Times (2016): https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ing-operation/.

Especially around the holidays and bowl season. Very high chance of high profile busts to show that they are cleaning up the town.

[HotLuck54]

Besides the high prices of the Big 4, there is one, very disturbing cautionary tale to discuss. There is a very high probabilty that the Big 4 (one or all) will be raided and shut down, and capture some of my brothers here while visiting for a little stress relief. I even read an article in Seattle, where Uncle LEO, after closing down a place, re-opened it with a new name for the sole purpose of catching customers in the act (and they arrested 155 customers).

Uncle LEO will not focus on 2nd tier locations, independents nor UTR providers. They want the biggest bang for the buck. They will go to a busy place, let's say a place that has a GEICO office next door (I envision the manager of that office is Alice Kravitz, of Bewitched: nosy neighbor), invite the news media, and with cameras rolling, break into the place and arrest everyone there. Now, this is not a conviction, but an arrest. Do you want your face on TV being arrested? I do not. And good luck telling those who saw you on TV that you are innocent.

The owners of the Big 4 do not care about us, they want to make their fast cash, and when the going gets tough, they will move on to another area. They are true carpet baggers.

Now, of course, some who post here, will still not believe this will happen. They will be like sheep not recognizing the wolf nearby. I am your sheep dog (more like an Anatolian Shepherd), here to protect my friends here. If given an option, don't take the red pill (stay in Wonderland), take the blue pill, and wake up to reality (The Matrix reference).

Be safe everyone.

Seattle Times (2016): https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ing-operation/.

Dude. There's a risk anywhere you stick your dick. Boyfriend, Girlfriend, Husband, heroin / candy used by any or all of the above, Guns, Knifes, mad dog in the house, car wreck in an area you find hard to explain to anyone, Syph, Clap, herpes, hiv and Yes, The Man Kickin' the Door Down with TV Cams in your Face. Film at Eleven.

Be as Safe as your Little Head lets you be. But an AMP Raid isn't high on my list of worries. Is there risk involved with AMPs, yes. All of them. Not just the Big 4. Eliminate all risk and stay home Jacking to on-line Porn with Rosie Palm and her 5 sisters.

Lame excuse to "visit" only the second tier AMPs. Stick with driving down pricing with a boycott. Much more believable. Hopefully, Luck (y) will be with me tomorrow 5 pm at You. LEO is welcome to Cum film my handy. Duh, not going to happen. LEO gots to keep the Parks safe for the Kiddies. Bigger fish to fry then an AMP Bust.

Woof Woof.

HL54.

[Gentleman 100]

Besides the high prices of the Big 4, there is one, very disturbing cautionary tale to discuss. There is a very high probabilty that the Big 4 (one or all) will be raided and shut down, and capture some of my brothers here while visiting for a little stress relief. I even read an article in Seattle, where Uncle LEO, after closing down a place, re-opened it with a new name for the sole purpose of catching customers in the act (and they arrested 155 customers).

Uncle LEO will not focus on 2nd tier locations, independents nor UTR providers. They want the biggest bang for the buck. They will go to a busy place, let's say a place that has a GEICO office next door (I envision the manager of that office is Alice Kravitz, of Bewitched: nosy neighbor), invite the news media, and with cameras rolling, break into the place and arrest everyone there. Now, this is not a conviction, but an arrest. Do you want your face on TV being arrested? I do not. And good luck telling those who saw you on TV that you are innocent.

The owners of the Big 4 do not care about us, they want to make their fast cash, and when the going gets tough, they will move on to another area. They are true carpet baggers.

Now, of course, some who post here, will still not believe this will happen. They will be like sheep not recognizing the wolf nearby. I am your sheep dog (more like an Anatolian Shepherd), here to protect my friends here. If given an option, don't take the red pill (stay in Wonderland), take the blue pill, and wake up to reality (The Matrix reference).

Be safe everyone.

Seattle Times (2016): https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ing-operation/.

[BuckNastee]

Comparing completely different markets and countries to central Florida doesn't really justify the prices you mention. They have completely different risk profiles And provider availabilities. Did you really get the same quality of service and provider in Valdosta?

With respect, if I don't feel the price warrants negotiation, I will not negotiate. If anything, I end up with better service. Whatever Effects that may have on local prices, it has. I'm not participating in the hobby to help others afford it.

I've been to NY and Cali, spending several months in so cal and I can say their prices were equal to ours for equivalent services, in my experience.

I should have implied that those prices are also here in Orlando. My statement did not corollate to my implication of mongers indulge at the same location repetitively to the point of inflated prices these parlors demand. So I just did compare the market of all the locations to show that prices can be this low. If mongers indulge in one particular location and the price is well out of the norm of markets and countries then its the location that will price the market. And yes the quality and service was the same in Valdosta, Wilkes-Barre, Macon, King of Prussia, Toms River etc. What I am implying is you should negotiate the price and not let them dictate the price. BO already is demanding you to pay 200 at the door, with no negotiation. With that I am done suggesting or implying what you as an adult should do with his money.

Now the douche bag in me is about to say this. You kind sir is the main reason the prices are what they are. I will not reply to anything you say after this statement for the forums rules will be enforced if I type any more.

[Kellner42]

I travel to new York to Seattle to san jose pretty much all over the US and Veracruz, Mexico to katsuta, Japan. 120 to 140 is the norm. Heck in Vildosta, GA (middle of fucking no where) was 130. Japan was 140 and they don't take tips. Its because mongers hit the same location not knowing or wanting to see if other places are around in Orlando. This is a small ratio of mongers on this site. But look at the reviews. Its about BO or GG 90%. If you go to the same places and pay that rate you can not say anything but Thank You mamasan ill be back tomorrow. Negotiation is key and don't be afraid to walk out. .

Comparing completely different markets and countries to central Florida doesn't really justify the prices you mention. They have completely different risk profiles And provider availabilities. Did you really get the same quality of service and provider in Valdosta?

With respect, if I don't feel the price warrants negotiation, I will not negotiate. If anything, I end up with better service. Whatever Effects that may have on local prices, it has. I'm not participating in the hobby to help others afford it.

I've been to NY and Cali, spending several months in so cal and I can say their prices were equal to ours for equivalent services, in my experience.

[BuckNastee]

I guess tipping varies around the country, but in the Baltimore, my home base, I tip 100 for BBBJ and CFS. It's a bit higher as you get down towards DC. But someone posted on one of the Florida pages that he HAD TO tip 100 just to get a CBJ. That sucks, so to speak--it's 60 back home. And I think the overall cost of living is higher in Maryland than in Florida.

No he let the little head think. Been there done that.

[BuckNastee]

My top tier places are you Massage and YaYa. They don't clock watch and enjoy the adventures just as much as the client. HH. 60 + 1.00 FS CIMBBBJ and more. Hopefully, we can start topics on similar talent and reasonable priced. 1.60 is not bad for the experience you can get via escort services. Many of the girls are bare min 7/10+.

Happy hunting and enjoy.

GG and BO are over priced by at least. 60 compared to the above.

Exactly. What I am trying to point out.

[RufustFirefly]

Oh, thanks! Had great 'Tina-Time' at Magic, & I'm very happy to hear where she's gone to. I'll have to check out the new place & make friends with Jeanie, too. Don't think I've met her anywhere else before.

Again, thanks for the update on the new digs!

I've had two great sessions with Tina at the new location in Longwood. She gives one of the best massages around (almost as good as Lily Gold!) with standard Magic / Island services and pricing.

What I cannot understand is that both times we had the place to ourselves and Tina complained that they weren't getting much business at this new location. But at the same time she told me not to post anything or to tell anyone!

So I am reluctantly breaking my silence to let you guys know that this new location is bigger, cleaner, and has the nicest TS shower room I've ever seen. Good location, discrete parking in the back, and Magic services without dealing with Rte 436 traffic and exposure. Check it out, but don't tell Tina you saw this post or she will punish me for breaking my promise. I love the new location and I want Tina to be a success and remain there!

[BuckNastee]

I'm not an Orlando local, I travel a lot due to work.

Literally the only other places I've ever gotten the amount of care you guys get in Orlando have been Dallas, which was cheaper by something like 20 bucks, and New York, which was more expensive.

And you guys want to boycott this?! You guys are crazy.

I travel to new York to Seattle to san jose pretty much all over the US and Veracruz, Mexico to katsuta, Japan. 120 to 140 is the norm. Heck in Vildosta, GA (middle of fucking no where) was 130. Japan was 140 and they don't take tips. Its because mongers hit the same location not knowing or wanting to see if other places are around in Orlando. This is a small ratio of mongers on this site. But look at the reviews. Its about BO or GG 90%. If you go to the same places and pay that rate you can not say anything but Thank You mamasan ill be back tomorrow. Negotiation is key and don't be afraid to walk out. .

[MisterTwinkies]

I'm not an Orlando local, I travel a lot due to work.

Literally the only other places I've ever gotten the amount of care you guys get in Orlando have been Dallas, which was cheaper by something like 20 bucks, and New York, which was more expensive.

And you guys want to boycott this?! You guys are crazy.

[HotLuck54]

This is reasonable post with a different opinion. My big problem is that these places are making huge profits and not providing customized service. The unit cost per customer probably ranges around $10 (the amount of water, electricity, and other consumables that each customer uses + misc. Costs). There might be other, minor costs, but the rest is profit. They are run like a Walmart but charge Bloomingdale prices. I will continue to go to 2nd Tier / Independents until I hear the Big 4 prices have stabilized.

Embargo On!

I agree with your Overpriced for the service delivered but. In your analysis you left out building cost (rent, security cams, towels, gels / soaps and shite), MM & cleaning lady cost, procurement cost (someone is running the "contact Ring" Job risk cost (bail $, lawyer. They all get busted sooner or later). I don't disagree they are reaping huge profit for the work performed. I always wonder why they aren't robbed more often. 200 or 240 X?? 50 to 100 dudes a day. Lots of cash on hand.

Take a trip to the Negative Escort Report forum. Sitting in a parking lot for NOCOM, Cash and dash, bait and switch. All events recently posted. AMPs are point and shoot. You know what you're getting, just don't know the girl. For 240 an hour, take charge. Don't want a TS or want it at the end? Say so or walk. Stand up or Walk Away. Give credit to Snow at BO. I had an issue after purchase and she handed me my donation and wished me a good night. I've never had that happen in any other SW venue, independent or biz.

I'll give "you" Spa a try Friday. 200 or walk. It's worth a try.

HL54.

[Gentleman 100]

I know this may not go over well, but I think it must be said. The experiences to be had here in Orlando are on par with some of the best around the country. Having been to a number of places were these activities are popular, I feel that the prices here reflect market value. Consider all of the services available and The quality of the providers here. In very few places are these things even available, and when they are available the price is usually well in excess of what we pay here. There are a few places where a better deal maybe found (Hawaii), But they are few and far between.

My initial years in the hobby were spent largely with upper level escorts. When their prices began to rise to around 6 to 700, I simply exited that scene. I realize that for many that does not seem to be an attractive option, but if you do not have the funds you cannot expect the service. Simply, don't go where you cannot afford to. Myself and many, many others are obviously comfortable with the prices. I will continue to pay what I consider a reasonable fee.

Seriously, read the reports of msog, CIM, BBBJ, Greek trips, etc. If you can find all that and more with a 9/10 provider for 200, go there.

Another point, very real, a lot of what is posted here is grandstanding or directly false to influence traffic to or from a certain place. At least one report on this very page is absolutely false, and I know so with certainty. I won't call it out, but I encourage others to think about this perspective.

Again, I'm not really "arguing," but I will say that some of us do believe this prices are fair, and are obviously willing to pay. This discussion has been repeated over the years and prices have yet to decrease, so we'll see how far this goes.

This is reasonable post with a different opinion. My big problem is that these places are making huge profits and not providing customized service. The unit cost per customer probably ranges around $10 (the amount of water, electricity, and other consumables that each customer uses + misc. Costs). There might be other, minor costs, but the rest is profit. They are run like a Walmart but charge Bloomingdale prices. I will continue to go to 2nd Tier / Independents until I hear the Big 4 prices have stabilized.

Embargo On!

[Member #6405]

I agree with You Massage being Top Tier, at least with my experience $$. Total for 1 fh, and nothing was rushed or mechanical; Lulu on top of the game.

[CapnMorgan88]

+1.

Agree the dream combo of pse W / gorgeous model-types, makes for value at top end; still plenty of room for middle of the pack options (both in looks and services at the lower price point), but for those who are restricted by time or distance, the upper echelon in Otown seems worth the coin, IMHO. Dream on, dream weaver. No disrespect to team embargo!

I know this may not go over well, but I think it must be said. The experiences to be had here in Orlando are on par with some of the best around the country. Having been to a number of places were these activities are popular, I feel that the prices here reflect market value. Consider all of the services available and The quality of the providers here. In very few places are these things even available, and when they are available the price is usually well in excess of what we pay here. There are a few places where a better deal maybe found (Hawaii), But they are few and far between.

My initial years in the hobby were spent largely with upper level escorts. When their prices began to rise to around 6 to 700, I simply exited that scene. I realize that for many that does not seem to be an attractive option, but if you do not have the funds you cannot expect the service. Simply, don't go where you cannot afford to. Myself and many, many others are obviously comfortable with the prices. I will continue to pay what I consider a reasonable fee.

Seriously, read the reports of msog, CIM, BBBJ, Greek trips, etc. If you can find all that and more with a 9/10 provider for 200, go there.

Another point, very real, a lot of what is posted here is grandstanding or directly false to influence traffic to or from a certain place. At least one report on this very page is absolutely false, and I know so with certainty. I won't call it out, but I encourage others to think about this perspective.

Again, I'm not really "arguing," but I will say that some of us do believe this prices are fair, and are obviously willing to pay. This discussion has been repeated over the years and prices have yet to decrease, so we'll see how far this goes.

[MadisonGuy69]

I know this may not go over well, but I think it must be said. The experiences to be had here in Orlando are on par with some of the best around the country. Having been to a number of places were these activities are popular, I feel that the prices here reflect market value. Consider all of the services available and The quality of the providers here. In very few places are these things even available, and when they are available the price is usually well in excess of what we pay here. There are a few places where a better deal maybe found (Hawaii), But they are few and far between.

My initial years in the hobby were spent largely with upper level escorts. When their prices began to rise to around 6 to 700, I simply exited that scene. I realize that for many that does not seem to be an attractive option, but if you do not have the funds you cannot expect the service. Simply, don't go where you cannot afford to. Myself and many, many others are obviously comfortable with the prices. I will continue to pay what I consider a reasonable fee.

Seriously, read the reports of msog, CIM, BBBJ, Greek trips, etc. If you can find all that and more with a 9/10 provider for 200, go there.

Another point, very real, a lot of what is posted here is grandstanding or directly false to influence traffic to or from a certain place. At least one report on this very page is absolutely false, and I know so with certainty. I won't call it out, but I encourage others to think about this perspective.

Again, I'm not really "arguing," but I will say that some of us do believe this prices are fair, and are obviously willing to pay. This discussion has been repeated over the years and prices have yet to decrease, so we'll see how far this goes.

Certainly I agree Orlando is better than average. There are way better areas for quality, and I've yet to see any AMP's with 9's. BO and CB had decent chicks but 9 would be grading on an Orlando scale not an every Asian in the world scale. Chicago, Dallas, and I'm told Miami blow away Orlando. Everyone will always complain about prices, I do sometimes. I don't find $200 too high, seems pretty par for the course. But in general I agree with you.