The Massholes

[JimXuper90]

But my point is if some girl that I've seen in the past or regularly at a certain rate agreed upon suddenly changes the cost and tries to go up on me, that is a huge turn off. That is then someone I say goodbye to. Talk about terribly poor customer service and customer retention practices.

There were two possible outcomes in such case and I have experienced them all.

1) she will tell you her price is increased. You eat up the cost or you drop her.

2) She won't respond to your text as much as it should be. She's dropping you since she's in demand.

And if you expect a good customer service from most of these girls. You are kidding yourself.

[Admin2]

Well, if there are "tons of non pro college girls and single moms who will do bjs for 50 or 60 and are not addicted and very cute" then I guess those that pay 100 do not "ruin it for everyone else".

It's an american thing, and maybe a Russian oligarch thing. There are men, generally very insecure men, who think because they paid more they are better or the girl will like them more.

It never made any sense to me because generally speaking there is an inverse relationship between price and service. Yet there are sad and pathetic men who walk into the shoe store and say "can I please pay 200 dollars for those shoes you have marked at 80?

[Grogrin]

Some of these providers know the forever desperate and weak Gullibles, even with money, can be sucked to almost anything.

I've read numerous reviews on here where Gullibles will talk about a provider popping out the tits is cause for them to pay more. I shake my head at that shit that you're allowing this inflation at a simple peek. Some of you guys have no charm whatsoever. At. 80 thatd be full service for me, no freakin way I'm going to drop another. 40 at a silly peak of a nipple. I had one provider who used to give me a total complete GFE experienced, everything minus FS for. 60. It got to the point where it wasnt even massage anymore. The minute I come in she takes cash and goes out for me to undress. I sit upright on the table. She comes in and plants herself right between my legs and puts her arms around my neck and lets me go to work on that body. I'd take my sweet time too. I'd unzip her pants and slowly rub her ass, lick tits, kiss her by the neck and lick her then slowly finger kitty. Then take the whole pants and panties off put my cock between her crotch and stroke it between her legs. Then turn her around and do the same and this time able to grab the tities from behind. I remember watching her reaction from the mirror it made her horny with her head tilted back and eyes close while I'm enjoying her sweet body in whatever ways. At times if I felt like it I'd ask her to suck me off and shed gladly oblige. Shed go take a towel, soak it with water and swipe it on my cock so she can get a clean suck. And I'd get on the table and watch her give me a slow sucking with her little lips completely full with my big cock in her mouth. When I was ready to finish I'd get her in a missionary or doggy and unload on her ass or puss. It was always like that in my visit. I barely got a massage. Sometimes I'd finish early and shed tell me to stay for a bit so she can massage me, I guess she liked the convo a bit because we used to get some laughs talking. Mind you she struggled a whole lot with her english and I didn't give a fuck all that mumbo jumbo she was saying. I just said yes or no and talked back and whatever. I surely miss her. She mustve been 50 that little old lady but had a sweet teenage body and decent face that could pass for her late 30's early 40. These asian women have a fountain of youth for sure.

I always imagined what mongers would have paid for all that I got. It used to always be 100, flat. 40 fir half hour and the 60 for tips. Money well spent given this was an AMP. Others would have spent a boatload on it. I've seen some mongers reviewed her but only mentioned simple HJ finish but never thought she was willing to do more. I never mentioned her either so they wouldn't fuck it up but just read the reviews and saw no one was taking advantage of it.

So I tip my hat of to you that you stood your ground and not over tip and cause inflation for a silly titie coming out. This is the stuff they know Gullibles are dumb about and can sucker them into paying unecessary amount when it should come with the service at times if one is a repeat customer. If theyre willing to pay for top off imagine how much theyd drop if she took of her pants and just let them see her pretty cotton flowered pants, the gullibles would go nuts.

I can say I've very much appreciated the tips on here and HAVE changed my habits. If a girl wants 80 for tits out, I typically just refuse and stick with the 40 ending.

[AudiAndrew78]

I kind of understand both sides in this discussion. It's hard to discuss what's the right thing to do when people have different depth of their wallet. People who would pay $100 just for a BJ wouldn't be able to convince the guys that only pay $40 for a BJ that this girl is a must-see. GPS girls will have their target customers, we just choose to not engage with them. The only conflict here is a girl who used to see me for $40 BJ now asks for $100. I have to stop seeing her in that case.

Sometimes girls will take a much lower rate than they typically ask for at a time of desperation or circumstance, but they should stay at that rate for you though. Whatever you both agree on from day one should stay that way. It's all subjective of course, hey, girls have the right to ask for whatever they want for their work. But my point is if some girl that I've seen in the past or regularly at a certain rate agreed upon suddenly changes the cost and tries to go up on me, that is a huge turn off. That is then someone I say goodbye to. Talk about terribly poor customer service and customer retention practices.

[NewOld]

I can say I've very much appreciated the tips on here and HAVE changed my habits. If a girl wants 80 for tits out, I typically just refuse and stick with the 40 ending.

OK, let's ignore the argument for a minute on whether or not guys paying "too much" affects prices. Does anyone think pleading with the users of theses boards is going to change anyone's spending habits? Really? Do you think even a minority of the users here will band together enough to affect prices? This pricing thread comes and goes as often as the "talent" you seek on the street. This first time I heard someone put out the idea of asking everyone to help keep prices low was on another board for big dogs in 2001. It didn't work then either.

BTW, I do not use the street so I have no skin in this game (so to speak LOL).

[Grogrin]

As as a big advocate for keeping prices low and I don't know if anyone puts that practice to use more then I do.

The problem we're facing with the Champions, Defenders and Captain Save a Hoe Gullibles is that they really ruin everything. They are everything from repeated offenders, Inflators, Gullible Idiots, Selfish pricks to down right flip flopping Hypocrites.

If a monger was to post that he met a provider and she gave a good service blow job for $40 bills, the inflator, being the skunk that he is, making a stink wherever he goes, he will look at that review and run to her and pay her possibly more, 60,70 to even 80. He will then come back on the board and tell you he, too, went to see that provider and thought she treated him nice and he wanted to be generous and gave her 40 plus a $20 tips or paid her 80. And you're asking him, why, why did you do that? Why did you have to go and drive up the price and give her that much and now empowering her to think that this is going to be the norm. You just ruin it for the guy that was getting his fix at the $40 bills price because next time he goes in there, there's a good chance she's going to hassle him for more. This shit has happened over again and again, and again. It is this selfish act by these Inflators in denial that they can't seem to grasp. They gloat and rave about their overspending like they are God's gift to these women when in reality, they ain't shit but the biggest degenerate desperate fucks with worthless egos that needs to glorify their actions to make themselves feel good and superior. When reality is, they are inferior. Stop acting you really have money like that. You slave 9-5 everyday just like everybody else.

What's even worse, most of the time, they don't even stay with the providers they inflate the prices with and keep them as their main regular, no, that'd be too costly for them. What they keep doing is, finding posts of Mongers with providers or chics with low prices and they go after them and causes the damage by driving up the price paying them more. To add more insult to injury, some of them will even post how a provider that they were paying too much on, has now become too expansive for them so they're looking for one of the cheap. And this is exactly why some of us on the other side of this argument have been saying, why cause the inflation and shoot yourself in the foot only to complain later that she is charging too much. Why can't you stop driving up the price so you, too, can have more bang for the buck and enjoy it for a while. What's the hurry?. What's with the tips, paying extra just because she called you handsome or make some silly convo. Are you that fucking desperate that any little thing they do or say is reason for you to give more money and gloat about it. Yeah we are all degenerates who are paying for pussy but there is a valid reason for that behavior. Some of us don't want to deal with the emotional baggage of these chics nowadays. If you can get the stupid shit on a set price then fuck it, cut all that run around short and lets get it to it. That is the whole purpose anyways when we try to take them out to eat, pay to go out, shopping, paying their bills ect. You may be doing all that and she's stringing you along while fucking another guy and not give you shit yet. Women are not loyal or trusworthy. Most of us would love to drill many we see on the streets, this hobby has made this surreal fantasy a possibility to no end. It now gives us some sort of power, we have the upper hand or at least level the playing field. But some of you Gullibles are so god dam useless and worthless, you can't even make that shit work for you and taking it away from us and are being arrogantly stupid and selfish.

You belittle the guy that says his budget is strict and he'd like get more bang for the buck by acting all macho, saying you can pay more and willing to pay more. For some reason, you seem to always be on the side of defending the provider, why? She doesn't care and give a fuck about you but the money. Stop pleading for the providers, SWs or escorts like you owe them something or that they are suffering, they ain't suffering shit. When they're not with your sorry ass, they're traveling the world or going to Vegas and spending a boat load of that cash, out shopping, driving luxurious cars. Why is it that providers, SWs or Escorts almost think on the same level in this business. Their ideological thinking to work together to make money stays the same. Do you think they would lower the price for any of us to get repeated business, they would Shun or call that chic out, like what the fuck are you doing giving out blow jobs for $10 or FS for $15 on Street level and maybe $30 BJ and $40/50 on AMP or Escort level. Imagine if they were doing that, the girls would freak out, like why are you lowering the price to these Jons making it so cheap and put us at a disadvantage. For us its the opposite, why are you driving the price. If a girl is known to get $40 fo Blow, why give her 60 or 80 and ruin it for the next man. And if FS was 80, why are you dropping 120 to 160.

Its like some of you don't know the price of pussy. We always say if a brand new car comes out of the lot, it just lost 50% of its value then how come the same philosophy apply here. How do you keep paying more for a chic that's getting banged repeatedly? Its like some of you don't know the value of a beat up pussy. When I was deep in the AMP game about 2 years ago, I had providers I was getting on the dirt cheap price whereas I saw reviews of guys paying astronomical prices. I've bumped into a couple of mongers coming out of AMPs and I can see clearly why some over pay. Maybe younger guys get away with stuff but if you have money I can't see why you can't have some power to make it work in your favor. Some of us who likes prices to stay standards are the only ones who are victims of the Gullible Idiot Inflators because don't step on their foot. We're not going to try to outbid you.

I say we Shun these repeated offenders on here. There's got to be a way or something we can think of to form a group where those that like to pay standard price go away from those that likes to inflate. Posting reviews on here, the selfish pricks will find the lead and ruin it like they always do. There's no talking to these idiots anymore, no getting through them. Best thing to do is Shun them and let them be. If there's a way we can for a different group and share our intel and not involved them, itd be ideal. More wishful thinking then reality but if there's a will there's a way. Its time we start calling them out.

[Fisherman61]

OK, let's ignore the argument for a minute on whether or not guys paying "too much" affects prices. Does anyone think pleading with the users of theses boards is going to change anyone's spending habits? Really? Do you think even a minority of the users here will band together enough to affect prices? This pricing thread comes and goes as often as the "talent" you seek on the street. This first time I heard someone put out the idea of asking everyone to help keep prices low was on another board for big dogs in 2001. It didn't work then either.

BTW, I do not use the street so I have no skin in this game (so to speak LOL).

I tip my hat to you sir. Very well stated. Let us all now move forward and enjoy our lady friends the best way we know how. Godspeed to you all.

[JimXuper90]

OK, let's ignore the argument for a minute on whether or not guys paying "too much" affects prices. Does anyone think pleading with the users of theses boards is going to change anyone's spending habits? Really? Do you think even a minority of the users here will band together enough to affect prices? This pricing thread comes and goes as often as the "talent" you seek on the street. This first time I heard someone put out the idea of asking everyone to help keep prices low was on another board for big dogs in 2001. It didn't work then either.

BTW, I do not use the street so I have no skin in this game (so to speak LOL).

Of course, it won't work. It's one's right to pay whatever he wants. It's up to the girl, if she can see a guy for $200 and that's all she wants, she will not see 2 guys for $100 each.

[Spill]

Malibu I'm with you. I also have no money issues, but why should I on anyone pay $100 for simple BJ. I'd say those are the guys that either have plenty of money to burn, or are unattractive and just have to pay. Next thing you know some ***** will be asking for $125 for a BJ, and guys will pay that. I mean come one, let's get real here with the cost of a 10 minute BJ. What are some guys now willing to pay some chich more than what a great lawyer would make. I mean for the guys that feel the need to be these girls champions and defenders,(of who the chick give two shits about and will have her mouth on some other guys dick in no time at all,) let's do the simple math 10 min at $100 fora BJ is $600/ hr, 15 min BJ is $400/ hr. And I highly doubt most guys last more than 10-15 min for just a BJ and if you are lasting longer the chcik isn't any good at what's she's doing which makes it paying high price even worse.

OK, let's ignore the argument for a minute on whether or not guys paying "too much" affects prices. Does anyone think pleading with the users of theses boards is going to change anyone's spending habits? Really? Do you think even a minority of the users here will band together enough to affect prices? This pricing thread comes and goes as often as the "talent" you seek on the street. This first time I heard someone put out the idea of asking everyone to help keep prices low was on another board for big dogs in 2001. It didn't work then either.

BTW, I do not use the street so I have no skin in this game (so to speak LOL).

[JimXuper90]

Well that wasn't very nice. And I have to disagree wholeheartedly.

I am also going to go on a limb here and point out that you probably.

Never even met Allie because if you truly had, you'd know she has a.

Strict policy of only meeting in her own vehicle because it's more roomy.

And tinted.

And I have seen her a few times when I travel to the Cape and.

My experience was always quite sensual and I left very satisfied.

There was nothing but a firm set of perky B cups and a very nice bum.

To squeeze which you can also see from the pictures posted.

As I always say YMMV but I always put my opinion in when I think.

Someone is just being negative for no reason.

Everybody's experience is different. Mine was similar to yours and I paid $$.5.

[AudiAndrew78]

Malibu I'm with you. I also have no money issues, but why should I on anyone pay $100 for simple BJ. I'd say those are the guys that either have plenty of money to burn, or are unattractive and just have to pay. Next thing you know some ***** will be asking for $125 for a BJ, and guys will pay that. I mean come one, let's get real here with the cost of a 10 minute BJ. What are some guys now willing to pay some chich more than what a great lawyer would make. I mean for the guys that feel the need to be these girls champions and defenders,(of who the chick give two shits about and will have her mouth on some other guys dick in no time at all,) let's do the simple math 10 min at $100 fora BJ is $600/ hr, 15 min BJ is $400/ hr. And I highly doubt most guys last more than 10-15 min for just a BJ and if you are lasting longer the chcik isn't any good at what's she's doing which makes it paying high price even worse.

Serious overkill with the math. Why don't I get a stop watch and pay them by the second or minute and in pennies too? LOL. Talk about taking the fun out of it dude! If you aren't into it or think it's too much, it's quite simple-don't pay it! Shop around, and use your money elsewhere. Do what you see is fit and call it a day. Don't assume the guy is bad or unattractive for paying what he feels is fair to a provider-just like it doesn't make a guy a bum cheapskate to want to pay less for a girl's services. Bottom line, it's not ever going to change, girls are always going to find plenty of men to pay what they request, so if it's such an issue, maybe some people should consider a different hobby. But you're right why should you pay anyone $100 for a simple BJ just like why should I not? Goes both ways. Like someone said earlier there are many of those girls that will do it for $40-50 are there for you, so no big deal. There are who want to shop at Dollar Tree for their socks and some want to shop at Nordstrom.

Cheers!

[JimXuper90]

Malibu I'm with you. I also have no money issues, but why should I on anyone pay $100 for simple BJ. I'd say those are the guys that either have plenty of money to burn, or are unattractive and just have to pay. Next thing you know some ***** will be asking for $125 for a BJ, and guys will pay that. I mean come one, let's get real here with the cost of a 10 minute BJ. What are some guys now willing to pay some chich more than what a great lawyer would make. I mean for the guys that feel the need to be these girls champions and defenders,(of who the chick give two shits about and will have her mouth on some other guys dick in no time at all,) let's do the simple math 10 min at $100 fora BJ is $600/ hr, 15 min BJ is $400/ hr. And I highly doubt most guys last more than 10-15 min for just a BJ and if you are lasting longer the chcik isn't any good at what's she's doing which makes it paying high price even worse.

I kind of understand both sides in this discussion. It's hard to discuss what's the right thing to do when people have different depth of their wallet. People who would pay $100 just for a BJ wouldn't be able to convince the guys that only pay $40 for a BJ that this girl is a must-see. GPS girls will have their target customers, we just choose to not engage with them. The only conflict here is a girl who used to see me for $40 BJ now asks for $100. I have to stop seeing her in that case.

[NewOld]

I never said anything about being empowered, bu tof course we all know there are tons of those guys out there. I'm just saying money comes so easy that it's inconsequential the amount the girl wants. With limits of course.

Of course I'm all about value still. Market determines the price. And as plenty of others have stated, if you're into banging or being serviced by grotesque street walking addicts, the price will reflect that.

There are tons of non pro college girls and single moms who will do bjs for 50 or 60 and are not addicted and very cute. I can't believe you can't find noone lower than 100 because there everywhere especially on CL in the days it was up and even now on seekingarrangements, I would never pay 80+ for a simple BJ but that's just me and I have money to burn but as the other person said it enpowers them and ruins it for everyone else.

[JakeBoss]

There are tons of non pro college girls and single moms who will do bjs for 50 or 60 and are not addicted and very cute. I can't believe you can't find noone lower than 100 because there everywhere especially on CL in the days it was up and even now on seekingarrangements, I would never pay 80+ for a simple BJ but that's just me and I have money to burn but as the other person said it enpowers them and ruins it for everyone else.

Malibu I'm with you. I also have no money issues, but why should I on anyone pay $100 for simple BJ. I'd say those are the guys that either have plenty of money to burn, or are unattractive and just have to pay. Next thing you know some ***** will be asking for $125 for a BJ, and guys will pay that. I mean come one, let's get real here with the cost of a 10 minute BJ. What are some guys now willing to pay some chich more than what a great lawyer would make. I mean for the guys that feel the need to be these girls champions and defenders,(of who the chick give two shits about and will have her mouth on some other guys dick in no time at all,) let's do the simple math 10 min at $100 fora BJ is $600/ hr, 15 min BJ is $400/ hr. And I highly doubt most guys last more than 10-15 min for just a BJ and if you are lasting longer the chcik isn't any good at what's she's doing which makes it paying high price even worse.

[Fisherman61]

Well, if there are "tons of non pro college girls and single moms who will do bjs for 50 or 60 and are not addicted and very cute" then I guess those that pay 100 do not "ruin it for everyone else".

Couldn't say it better myself Spill.