"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**Leep12** · 08-14-18 01:57

Originally Posted by DArrow404 [View Original Post]

Thanks for the advice. So I've been reading the older posts and the ones on the Richmond thread trying to fast track my knowledge, but I've seen some conflicting things.

I've seen it mentioned here many times about avoiding talking about specific amounts of time or linking specific acts to $$. One thing which confuses me though is I've seen many people post that one POT will do BBBJ, BBFS, for 2 hours for $$ but never actually saw them.

Are people just straight up asking if they will play without a condom? I could see that being ok with a UTR or pro, but a college age SB? I figured that would weird them out. Please enlighten me. Thanks.

BTW, not sure if everyone knows this. With Android, you can pay for SA through their mobile app and use Google Play credit. So I just buy credits with my card and it just shows up as a Google transaction. Then I pay for SA with the credits. May not be anonymous, but it would stop from showing up on your CC bill anything strange. I don't have to hide from anyone so I'm not worried anyway. Might be useful in a pinch if you can't get a prepaid card and need access.

I agree basically 100 % with what Malcol said in his post regarding the above. Can tell he has played the game.

If guys are getting this kind of info without meeting, you basically have a guy with BP mentality, dealing with a UTR / Pro. This type of discussion will turn off the real SB's that you want, they just want it to flow naturally. You just need to jump in and take your chances. Some like DFK, variations of oral and some don't. All enjoy a good pounding.

I always use a condom. I'm more worries about getting them prego.

**CharmingOmar** · 08-13-18 22:46

Originally Posted by DArrow404 [View Original Post]

I'm assuming she's an UTR/ pro, but does anyone know who she is.

Her name DIRTY BIRD. Telephone number 1-800- GARBAGE. I'm going to need why'all to do better. Why go to SA and pay for this?

**LazaroRosales** · 08-13-18 21:52

Googled her number and quickly realized she was a pro. She wants to see you right away and wants 350 for a couple of hours. I offered 200 but she wasn't interested. Not interested.

Originally Posted by DArrow404 [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/f0593...a-4d7cbfbfd5ea

Anyone have any info on her? Trying to setup meet and greet.

**DArrow404** · 08-13-18 19:30

I'm assuming she's an UTR/ pro, but does anyone know who she is.

**SurferDude7** · 08-13-18 19:19

Lusciouslips4you.

I cannot provide link, but that is her handle, she claims to be a psychology major and asked 101 questions, foolishly I answered them and she then she started judging me and got an, I'm better than you attitude.

**DArrow404** · 08-13-18 18:11

https://www.seeking.com/member/f0593...a-4d7cbfbfd5ea

Anyone have any info on her? Trying to setup meet and greet.

**MalcolPrath** · 08-13-18 17:25

Originally Posted by SurferDude7 [View Original Post]

ElenaAtl.

https://www.seeking.com/member/31634...0-d63d71ee17bd

Interesting chats, claims to be virgin, but still looking to make an arrangement.

Anyone else had any experience?

I've been texting her. Claims to be a virgin. Won't send any pictures because she's insecure about her body. I'll keep the board updated.

**MalcolPrath** · 08-13-18 17:14

Originally Posted by DArrow404 [View Original Post]

Thanks for the advice. So I've been reading the older posts and the ones on the Richmond thread trying to fast track my knowledge, but I've seen some conflicting things.

I've seen it mentioned here many times about avoiding talking about specific amounts of time or linking specific acts to $$. One thing which confuses me though is I've seen many people post that one POT will do BBBJ, BBFS, for 2 hours for $$ but never actually saw them.

Are people just straight up asking if they will play without a condom? I could see that being ok with a UTR or pro, but a college age SB? I figured that would weird them out. Please enlighten me. Thanks.

BTW, not sure if everyone knows this. With Android, you can pay for SA through their mobile app and use Google Play credit. So I just buy credits with my card and it just shows up as a Google transaction. Then I pay for SA with the credits. May not be anonymous, but it would stop from showing up on your CC bill anything strange. I don't have to hide from anyone so I'm not worried anyway. Might be useful in a pinch if you can't get a prepaid card and need access.

After fucking quite a few college girls both through the site and just from meeting them on Tinder / at the bars, etc, it's more common for them not to want to use a condom than it is for them to want to use one. Outside of the pros on the site, most of the girls are college girls looking for an attractive, older guy that they can hook up with and get some money for doing it. They're not getting random dick multiple times per day like BP girls are, so they tend to not care as much about catching something. Plus they figure that if a guy is rich enough to be using the site, he's not the type to be fucking random hookers. They don't understand that a lot of guys use the site like backpage. This only applies to the true cute, college-aged SBs though.

My approach is I never talk about time limits or specific acts. Most of these girls aren't pros, so they don't know what the going rate is. I frame it as an allowance per week, with a meeting every week. If you never bring up time constraints, most of them will be happy to stay until you kick them out, and a majority will be ok with overnights. The guys these girls date tend to be their age or a bit older and are in school or fresh out of college and not necessarily making a lot of money. They romanticize the idea of being with an established older man, and even if they only ask for two hundred for spending the night with you, that's more than what they get when they hook up with guys at their school, so it's worth it to them.

Never discuss specific sexual acts or time limits with them. Once you've established the allowance, just invite them to your place or hotel or ask if their place is an option. They'll come over and stay indefinitely. Sometimes if you meet during the afternoon, they'll say "Oh, I have dinner plans at 6 so I can only stay for like 3 hours. " And even then it's a much cheaper rate than paying for a high-end pro for that amount of time. And the majority of them want you to do it bare. That's what they like because they aren't fucking multiple guys in a day. I prefer to use a condom, but I've had a girl start trying to ride me bare, and I stop them to get a condom and they're all like "Oh, I assumed you would want it bare. ".

If a girl from the site does talk about time limits or specific sex acts before you meet, you know she's a pro.

**DArrow404** · 08-13-18 15:50

Originally Posted by SurferDude7 [View Original Post]

ElenaAtl.

https://www.seeking.com/member/31634...0-d63d71ee17bd

Interesting chats, claims to be virgin, but still looking to make an arrangement.

Anyone else had any experience?

I was talking to her the past couple days. She never told me that she was a virgin, but she did tell me she is 240 lbs after I was asking for some more pics.

**LazaroRosales** · 08-13-18 15:35

She is a waste of time. We had a brief exchange back in March, she wants to have an arrangement of 3 k a month (if I recall correctly), but claims that she wants to save herself for marriage, she claims to be very religious. I call bs on the whole virgin thing and I'm pretty sure she's just looking for an idiot that will pay her for her pretty face. Stay away.

Originally Posted by SurferDude7 [View Original Post]

ElenaAtl.

https://www.seeking.com/member/31634...0-d63d71ee17bd

Interesting chats, claims to be virgin, but still looking to make an arrangement.

Anyone else had any experience?

**NGASugarMan** · 08-13-18 14:20

I don't know if it it's a southern thing, or a younger generational thing, but most of the genuine SB's will just jump you raw without hesitation. I've had to stop and ask if they are on BC before continuing. I even had one stupid one jump it raw, and say she wasn't on BC. Told me to just pull out, or put a condom on when I'm close. I had to explain to her what pre-cum was, LOL!

"Are people just straight up asking if they will play without a condom? I could see that being ok with a UTR or pro, but a college age SB? I figured that would weird them out. Please enlighten me. Thanks. ".

Originally Posted by DArrow404 [View Original Post]

Thanks for the advice. So I've been reading the older posts and the ones on the Richmond thread trying to fast track my knowledge, but I've seen some conflicting things.

I've seen it mentioned here many times about avoiding talking about specific amounts of time or linking specific acts to $$. One thing which confuses me though is I've seen many people post that one POT will do BBBJ, BBFS, for 2 hours for $$ but never actually saw them.

Are people just straight up asking if they will play without a condom? I could see that being ok with a UTR or pro, but a college age SB? I figured that would weird them out. Please enlighten me. Thanks.

BTW, not sure if everyone knows this. With Android, you can pay for SA through their mobile app and use Google Play credit. So I just buy credits with my card and it just shows up as a Google transaction. Then I pay for SA with the credits. May not be anonymous, but it would stop from showing up on your CC bill anything strange. I don't have to hide from anyone so I'm not worried anyway. Might be useful in a pinch if you can't get a prepaid card and need access.

**SurferDude7** · 08-13-18 06:06

Originally Posted by Leep12 [View Original Post]

You can get an Idea from the profile maybe, they are all different, some like discretion, so don't even want to be seen in public with a SD. I have a couple that I usually have dinner with and a few that I don't. Most just want to hang out in a "movie and Pizza" type date format get fucked and get paid, to be honest.

I have chatted with some in the 30 plus range but mostly ignore them. Best to get women with no kids. SBs 30 plus seem to be a pain, more picky, less flexible, less attractive, worse bodies and want just as much or more money. I chased a number in the 35-45 range thinking I could get some free or lower cost chicks that mostly wanted good sex but no luck for me.

My sweet spot is about 22-28 . Basicially adults still hot and tight body, not as flaky, can possibly host, and not too particular about little shit. That said, still had a bunch of fun with the 18-22 YO. Just need to deal with the flake factor and world revolves around them BS more.

This is good wisdom.

**SurferDude7** · 08-13-18 06:03

ElenaAtl.

https://www.seeking.com/member/31634...0-d63d71ee17bd

Interesting chats, claims to be virgin, but still looking to make an arrangement.

Anyone else had any experience?

**DArrow404** · 08-13-18 06:00

Originally Posted by Leep12 [View Original Post]

You can get an Idea from the profile maybe, they are all different, some like discretion, so don't even want to be seen in public with a SD. I have a couple that I usually have dinner with and a few that I don't. Most just want to hang out in a "movie and Pizza" type date format get fucked and get paid, to be honest.

I have chatted with some in the 30 plus range but mostly ignore them. Best to get women with no kids. SBs 30 plus seem to be a pain, more picky, less flexible, less attractive, worse bodies and want just as much or more money. I chased a number in the 35-45 range thinking I could get some free or lower cost chicks that mostly wanted good sex but no luck for me.

My sweet spot is about 22-28 . Basicially adults still hot and tight body, not as flaky, can possibly host, and not too particular about little shit. That said, still had a bunch of fun with the 18-22 YO. Just need to deal with the flake factor and world revolves around them BS more.

Thanks for the advice. So I've been reading the older posts and the ones on the Richmond thread trying to fast track my knowledge, but I've seen some conflicting things.

I've seen it mentioned here many times about avoiding talking about specific amounts of time or linking specific acts to $$. One thing which confuses me though is I've seen many people post that one POT will do BBBJ, BBFS, for 2 hours for $$ but never actually saw them.

Are people just straight up asking if they will play without a condom? I could see that being ok with a UTR or pro, but a college age SB? I figured that would weird them out. Please enlighten me. Thanks.

BTW, not sure if everyone knows this. With Android, you can pay for SA through their mobile app and use Google Play credit. So I just buy credits with my card and it just shows up as a Google transaction. Then I pay for SA with the credits. May not be anonymous, but it would stop from showing up on your CC bill anything strange. I don't have to hide from anyone so I'm not worried anyway. Might be useful in a pinch if you can't get a prepaid card and need access.