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  1. #19337
    Quote Originally Posted by ReadyForRub  [View Original Post]
    For years we've been told "No! Means No.
    Believe it if you want but I don't. I once read a book and one of the nuggets in it was that "No" actually means 'Not yet.' Which makes sense. One of his statements to back that up was not scoring on first dates. That's pretty common. But if we hang in there and don't completely creep them out, usually by the third to fifth date things will change.

    Similar here. Let's face it. They're in the sex business whether that's what they want to call it or not. We're usually lying naked on a bed / table and she's touching us. Duh. I promise you that with persistence and friendliness that "No" can / will eventually switch to "maybe next time" to "Ok but don't tell anyone. ".

    It's happened to me and I'm sure many others here. Heck, I know a guy thats now banging a woman that was celibate for 20 years. Oh, Hi Bob521. lol. It all depends how much (time and or interest) we want to invest.

    I've learned that females will do anything. Yes, that. And that too. And that too. Anything. Anything. Anything. Even the most prudish ones. It blows my mind but it's true. And here's a clue. Money Talks.

    Of course, as a disclaimer to all the above written, YMMV. Especially nowadays. Does 'Me Too' ring a bell? But IMHO, "No" doesn't always mean no.

    Being an entrepreneur, if there's an account or new customer I want and he says no the first time I pitch him, it doesn't deter me. Just tells me he's not ready yet and to come back another time.

  2. #19336
    Regular Member


    Posts: 19
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob521  [View Original Post]
    I didn't check for that SPA but in general it think you could check "Other Areas" at the bottom of the Illinois listings. At the bottom of the "Other Areas" thread there are various locations. One is MCHenry/Crystal Lake. There's also a search tool. Might help you find it.

    Bob.
    Thanks, Bob.

  3. #19335
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1255

    Algonquin

    I didn't check for that SPA but in general it think you could check "Other Areas" at the bottom of the Illinois listings. At the bottom of the "Other Areas" thread there are various locations. One is MCHenry/Crystal Lake. There's also a search tool. Might help you find it.

    Bob.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigG  [View Original Post]
    Hey fellow mongers, I need some help.

    I looked up in Chicago Massage Parlor Reports but I couldn't find anything for World Health Spa in Algonquin.

    Can anyone tell me which Sub-Forum is this place under?

    Thanks.

  4. #19334
    Regular Member


    Posts: 19

    World Health Spa

    Hey fellow mongers, I need some help.

    I looked up in Chicago Massage Parlor Reports but I couldn't find anything for World Health Spa in Algonquin.

    Can anyone tell me which Sub-Forum is this place under?

    Thanks.

  5. #19333
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1270

    Really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Walker333  [View Original Post]
    A number of times I have tipped 100 an mt that I really liked for a good massage and just a L1, hoping to open up a menu on the next visit. Guess what! Nothing new / amazing has happened even on my fifth visit. She just kept repeating I don't do that. ! Actually at one point she started question me about my private life. She obviously received a wrong massage. This story happened with more than one mt. Thus I came to conclusion that if mt doesn't do "that," she will not change her practice no matter how financially grateful we are, unless she gets an engagement ring.
    The conclusion you have come to is flawed. There is no reason to get beyond L1, or receive better service as a reward for being a good (actually dumb) tipper. If they are getting $100 from you for L1, there is no incentive to provide you the market value service for $100. Many times, if you tip with, say a 20% increase over the standard tip amount a few of times ($50 for HJ, instead of the standard $40) you can usually get them to open up a bit and gradually each subsequent. Visit, but it takes time and a couple of visits at each stage. For example, if you receive a good massage, with a good tease, and HJ, then tip $50 a couple of times. On the next visit, try to negotiate, or just ask for their tits out for some, breast play, then tip $60. After a couple of visits more, you may have them nude while they give you HJ, with full roaming allowed. Then tip a little more. Inch them along to eventually finding out where their true ceiling is.

    Never over tip in hopes of receiving better service later. They work in the here and now and your tips should be that way too. Why provide $100 service, when already getting $100 for L1 $40-$50 service?

  6. #19332

    Belmont.

    My first post since this became a. Nl. Anyway, is Michelle still at Belmont? I was last there in the winter, maybe my third time seeing here, she went L3. May explore the others there to see if they have similar menus.

  7. #19331

    Ymmv

    Quote Originally Posted by Walker333  [View Original Post]
    A number of times I have tipped 100 an mt that I really liked for a good massage and just a L1, hoping to open up a menu on the next visit. Guess what! Nothing new / amazing has happened even on my fifth visit. She just kept repeating I don't do that. ! Actually at one point she started question me about my private life. She obviously received a wrong massage. This story happened with more than one mt. Thus I came to conclusion that if mt doesn't do "that," she will not change her practice no matter how financially grateful we are, unless she gets an engagement ring.
    I don't have a problem tipping $70 when the amt is cute, teases, gives great massage, lets me pull her tits out and suck her nipples, rub her pussy, spank her, then licks my nipples while I pull her hair and she jerks me off. Then jerks me off again during ts. Now why you would tip $100 for a standard L1 and repeat 5 times with no result is beyond me. I hope she was hot as hell.

  8. #19330
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1255

    Anniversary

    Mei and I have had the store now for two years. (Actually July 27,2016 we bought the store). So this month we are celebrating and rolling back prices. We want to thank all of you for everything you've done for Mei and me.

    Bob.

  9. #19329
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1255

    Tipping

    Of course tipping is partly as a reward for stand out service and partly (in the correct circumstances) as an investment. Something not well known is that many of the (Chinese) girls have husbands / boyfriends. But they will rarely tell you that. So your MT might have a hard line she won't cross because she has a guy already. Actually girls like this like our store because we don't allow / force them to offer HE. So the phrase "I don't do that could mean, its her personal code, or she has a husband, or she doesn't like you and she might do it for someone else, or importantly, the store strictly prohibits. In my old days, I've gotten L3, only after promising to be very quiet and discrete.

    You are categorized (sort of) by the personnel as (1) stranger / first visit (2) her co-worker's customer (3) store customer (meaning that guy could be taken by any worker) (4) her good customer (meaning the girl will get you when you arrive) (5) her boyfriend. (6) Jerk customer (by bad actions or bad tip). So the girls behavior depends on where you fit on that scale. Also depends on the other worker relationships. Some co-workers are close / friends meaning they won't take her friend's customer (if at all possible). Other co-workers don't like each other and will try to undermine the other workers. Its easy to spot the behavior and predict results once you know when you are on the customer rating scale, and, importantly one you know what the ship situation is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Walker333  [View Original Post]
    A number of times I have tipped 100 an mt that I really liked for a good massage and just a L1, hoping to open up a menu on the next visit. Guess what! Nothing new / amazing has happened even on my fifth visit. She just kept repeating I don't do that. ! Actually at one point she started question me about my private life. She obviously received a wrong massage. This story happened with more than one mt. Thus I came to conclusion that if mt doesn't do "that," she will not change her practice no matter how financially grateful we are, unless she gets an engagement ring.

  10. #19328
    Senior Member


    Posts: 3468

    Here's An Idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Walker333  [View Original Post]
    A number of times I have tipped 100 an mt that I really liked for a good massage and just a L1, hoping to open up a menu on the next visit. Guess what! Nothing new / amazing has happened even on my fifth visit. She just kept repeating I don't do that. ! Actually at one point she started question me about my private life. She obviously received a wrong massage. This story happened with more than one mt. Thus I came to conclusion that if mt doesn't do "that," she will not change her practice no matter how financially grateful we are, unless she gets an engagement ring.
    How about finding a massage therapist that will give you a happy ending without giving her a big tip and without an engagement ring?

  11. #19327

    No Surprises

    Quote Originally Posted by Walker333  [View Original Post]
    A number of times I have tipped 100 an mt that I really liked for a good massage and just a L1, hoping to open up a menu on the next visit. Guess what! Nothing new / amazing has happened even on my fifth visit. She just kept repeating I don't do that. ! Actually at one point she started question me about my private life. She obviously received a wrong massage. This story happened with more than one mt. Thus I came to conclusion that if mt doesn't do "that," she will not change her practice no matter how financially grateful we are, unless she gets an engagement ring.
    For years we've been told "No! Means No.

  12. #19326

    Belle Fox

    Had a first encounter with Belle yesterday. Reached out to her via text to schedule a time a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, she had to cancel / reschedule a few times so it took two weeks to finally set up a time. Almost gave up but really glad I kept at it to try and schedule with her. Finally saw her last night and she has incredible body along with a bubbly personality. You can be the judge of that from her pictures. On the massage part, fairly standard. She doesn't have a background as a masseuse so don't expect to work out those sore muscles or kinks in your back. On the flip, standard L1 finish there. I didn't feel rushed at all throughout the session.

    As for extras -- she shared that she has FS options. Haven't tried it myself but will venture there at some point. Will definitely be back.

    Damage $. 80 for an hour. You can find her info / pictures searching "bellefoxchicago twitter" and her twitter profile will come up. Don't think she has a site, at least I didn't come across one.

    PM if you have any questions.

  13. #19325

    Is it worth it?

    Sounds too expensive imo for the age and level of hotness offered. I know non-asians are typically bigger money for house and services.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigA1  [View Original Post]
    Both times I have been there I got the girl that opened the door. No choices provided. Tara provided a great nuru session which includes the soapy shower massage afterwards. She allowed DATY for a tip (I chose the amount and was generous). I requested a BJ but was told that was not available.
    .

  14. #19324

    Divine Dolls

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankyV8  [View Original Post]
    Monica the Polish girl is about 40# heavier than the pictures.

    No haggling / upsell.

    HE.

    "anything else?" - "I do, but not here. ".

    "MSOG if 60 minutes?" - "Oh noooooo. ".
    Both times I have been there I got the girl that opened the door. No choices provided. Tara provided a great nuru session which includes the soapy shower massage afterwards. She allowed DATY for a tip (I chose the amount and was generous). I requested a BJ but was told that was not available.

  15. #19323

    Tip

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsom  [View Original Post]
    Hit the place on Western south of expressway again and landed a new girl. Says her name is Lucy. I went early and she told me I was her first massage working there. I'd give her an 8 with the lights dim and 6 with them on LOL. Cute girl. Probably late 20's although you guys know sometimes it's hard to tell.

    When she came back in the room as always I was naked sitting on edge of bed with my junk in full view. She kind of panicked, pointed to a towel, mumbled something and went straight back out. I thought, uh-oh, maybe no one has taught her the ropes yet.

    Comes back in and proceeds to give me one of THE best massages I've had at these places. Just keeping the feelers out I would compliment her technique while touching her leg or patting her butt. At first she would move away slightly but soon enough would just laugh. Told her she had the best massage there and mentioned the other two girls by name. Long story short on the flip I was not disappointed. Even pushed her boundaries a bit which I love doing with these girls. Finished with table shower and was not disappointed for the second time. Tipped her $80 ($10 of which for for table shower). I know some of you cheap bstards think I tip too much but I don't care. $60 is standard for me for decent and basic L1. I'd only tip $40 for the most rushed and mechanical HE and sub standard massage.

    On the way out saw Julie who I've accidentally referred to as Aimee on here so for the person asking it's Julie. Both gave me a big hug and I was on my way. Wouldn't mind splurging on a 4 hand with the two of them some day.
    A number of times I have tipped 100 an mt that I really liked for a good massage and just a L1, hoping to open up a menu on the next visit. Guess what! Nothing new / amazing has happened even on my fifth visit. She just kept repeating I don't do that. ! Actually at one point she started question me about my private life. She obviously received a wrong massage. This story happened with more than one mt. Thus I came to conclusion that if mt doesn't do "that," she will not change her practice no matter how financially grateful we are, unless she gets an engagement ring.

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