"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Kwagmire]

I just noticed that the Whats Your Price site has eliminated the "Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby" option under the "what you're looking for" relationship types that both men and women pick when we're setting up our profiles on the site.

So, our esteemed govt / moral police via FOSTA / SESTA made a fairly useless site now almost totally useless. WYP works where they guy needs to pay each time he wants to message with someone, however, now it doesn't make sense to pay to message before you can even know what kind of relationship the woman is open to.

Bummer, because I did manage to get laid on WYP recently. She turned out to be heavier than her pics, and well on her way to being an alcoholic at 24 so I won't see her again, but it was a trip to the FC.

WYP and SA are owned by the same guy. If his lawyers are advising him to remove references to "sugar" on WYP, this may not bode well for SA. Hopefully they'll move the whole thing overseas pretty soon.

[Assaholic]

Not to be an echo chamber for the dean of this thread, JZLizard, but his opinion is that giving sugar is a way to avoid more complex entanglements w / a SB. It also makes it clear that you are in control. I recently went to the FC w / a young Asian, she told me in advance that whatever I wanted to give was fine, I put 140 in an envelope I left her in her apartment. She was '*completely satisfied' by our encounter.

Right on bro. I'm really glad you found your prize.

Where I live, I'm practically surrounded by young Asians (the only flavor that really does the trick for me and junior), however on SA I found them to be completely unapproachable. Part of it might be that I'm only after 9's and 10's. Another reason could be that I don't look good on resume, so to speak. However, once I get to the first meet, I'm very good at subtly directing the conversation and putting the girl at ease. One of my 'tricks" is to talk to them just as if I was their BF. For example, I talk about the goofy / funny situations or predicaments that we all get into every day, and I express how I felt helpless or confused. This helps them to think of you as just another one of her social friends, rather than as a weirdo, or a stalker, or a stuck-up customer, which in turn would make them feel like a ho.

Another "trick" is not stay silent for too long. I'm not a talkative person, so I have to force myself.

Also I never ask her if she's comfortable with talking it to the next level. I take the "one thing led to another" approach, and judge where her mind is at as I progress, and she'll give you clear signals if you pay attention, as to whether she's ready or not. In other words, I never give the impression that the only reason I'm there is to take her to the FC. In fact I mention that I'm not interested in sex, per se, and that I get plenty from other girls.

As you might have guessed, I don't enjoy pros at all. Instead, I relish the pleasure and challenge of turning "good" girls to the dark side, LOL.

Of course it very much depends on the girl's attitude and disposition too. I've come across many whom I couldn't even get to crack a smile no matter what I tried, but those are fairly rare. Anyway, for someone like me, who's very choosy, yesterday's session was hands down legendary.

[JZLizard]

Not to be an echo chamber for the dean of this thread, JZLizard

Once again, I would appreciate not being associated with any special titles with regard to this thread, or to have it implied that I'm other than than a poster on equal footing as everyone else-- good intentions or not, I just don't want the title. Thanks JL

[FarFarAway]

Personally, I think it was a proper thing to do, especially if she was as hot as you describe and you had a great time that you would like to repeat. But that's just one monger's opinion. There are others who will tell you to walk away a happy man. But I also suppose it depends on the overall attitude of the chik who's allowing you to have your way with her.

Not to be an echo chamber for the dean of this thread, JZLizard, but his opinion is that giving sugar is a way to avoid more complex entanglements w / a SB. It also makes it clear that you are in control. I recently went to the FC w / a young Asian, she told me in advance that whatever I wanted to give was fine, I put 140 in an envelope I left her in her apartment. She was '*completely satisfied' by our encounter.

[CoolPix]

Damage: Three bills. She wanted no $ - I insisted. If you guys think that was a mistake on my part, please tell me. I'm not sure myself if I handled it properly.

Personally, I think it was a proper thing to do, especially if she was as hot as you describe and you had a great time that you would like to repeat. But that's just one monger's opinion. There are others who will tell you to walk away a happy man. But I also suppose it depends on the overall attitude of the chik who's allowing you to have your way with her.

[GoneForDays]

OK duh, massage parlor.

She's a part-time MP girl.

[GoneForDays]

She's a part-time MP girl.

[Assaholic]

- Me: Your typical quinquagenarian, still in shape, still with a few 'tricks' up my sleeve, not the best looking guy, and apparently not good enough to get an audience with my target depographic on Tinder, et. Al.

- Her: 20 or 21/ year old Asian student transplant, not smart as fuck, but normal intelligence, not cuckoo, slim, incredible eyes, non-pro, non-UTR, girl next door type, face / body / attitude: 9/10/10.

- Damage: Three bills. She wanted no $ - I insisted. If you guys think that was a mistake on my part, please tell me. I'm not sure myself if I handled it properly.

- Rewards: BBFSCIP (extremely rare for me to indulge in, but in this case, I felt comfortable with it), DFK, my favorite position (elephant?) And I'm guessing she enjoyed the experience also, because she kept pulling me closer during, and wanted more after junior was done for the day.

- Mistakes Made: Broke my own no-BB rule. Didn't get her number (hopefully next time). Left the panties on and did the pull to the side routine. Afterwards her panties were wet and she didn't seem amused.

- Banging a chick ten times hotter than anything Trump could possibly pull off: Priceless.

Sorry, this one's a gem. She's a part-time MP girl and doesn't offer FS. Can't share, so please don't ask. FYI, I struck out big time on SA. Hundreds of messages and nothing. So I've concentrated my efforts into other channels. It's definitely a lot of work, and it gives a new meaning to the expression labor of love.

[CoolPix]

Attractive, tall, slim. Large bolt-ons that are hard as rocks. Flakey, rushed, always has a story. Lives in a motel but makes you go elsewhere because her "cousin" is in the room with her.

Avoid, avoid, avoid.

Appreciate the report. I was intrigued but I'll move on!

[BStreet]

Can't appreciate that enough! Thank you and I will avoid. Had my share of those!

Attractive, tall, slim. Large bolt-ons that are hard as rocks. Flakey, rushed, always has a story. Lives in a motel but makes you go elsewhere because her "cousin" is in the room with her.

Avoid, avoid, avoid.

[CantWinLosin]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...2-9063cd41022e

Hard to tell exactly what she may really look like.

Attractive, tall, slim. Large bolt-ons that are hard as rocks. Flakey, rushed, always has a story. Lives in a motel but makes you go elsewhere because her "cousin" is in the room with her.

Avoid, avoid, avoid.

[Cephlapod Love]

You mean like the above?

LOL! Show off! Hahaha. Well done, one upped me.

[RogerOver]

Two ways you can do this:

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Hope that helps!

You mean like the above?

[JZLizard]

Simply a sign of respect. IK you're not the moderator.

Understood and well-received -- I just wanted to clarify for folks who are new or reading in passing.

I agree with you, you pretty much get this SD game figured out after a while. I do like to prowl the threads to be sure I don't miss something new, FOSTA being the latest example, and you inevitably see? S from newbies who haven't come across an earlier post that provided our common knowledge. Guys just don't think to search the thread, and many may not have noticed the archive.

You can always screw up, though. I have been messaging w / a super hot 30's bartender for quite a while. Finally met last week, thought there might be a connection. Electronic communication w / her is spotty, though, and the first time we spoke directly I was dropping into her hood, and she comes out w / a statement that she usually gets 5-600 from her customers. I really have little interest in escorting, for a variety of reasons, but the little head was in command in this instance. I went ahead for her steep price (at least she hosts), and regret it. IDK what I was thinking. I got the standard escort crap, she has TMJ so no BJ, all kinds of 'don'ts', clock watcher, not credible. I totally blew that $ - I came but feel like shit.

I've participated in my fair share of screw-ups. Luckily nothing that would deter me from the hobby though. If faced with the case you just described, I would have stopped talking the moment she said she "usually gets" some sum of money, it's an indicator she's a pro.

One thing I've started doing is trying to wrap my head around their background / upbringing as soon as I can, because I've noticed that girls who grew up bored in a small town tend to make excellent SBs. That's not to say one should go looking for them in small towns, because they tend to escape to the city anyway, and cities are the best places to fish, but I've noticed a pattern where girls who grew up in boring areas tend to be super enthusiastic and wide-eyed about the whole sugaring thing. They are the ones with the biggest dreams, and the ones most impressed by relatively simple things like nice dinners, nice cars, etc. And that enthusiasm transfers into the bedroom in most cases. Maybe others haven't experienced the same thing, but I've found the more worldly, well-traveled, educated girls seem to be more relationship minded or at least have higher expectations around the emotional component.

Another insight I don't think I've shared here: I think I'm going to discontinue the practice of spending 2-4 days at a time with an SB even if I'm into her. Partially because they develop a sense of attachment -- it's harder to disconnect when I want the texts to stop. Also, I've found the more time I spend with them the more they seem to become more curious about my identity. Maybe one overnighter is the optimal amount of time to spend with each one? I always feel a sense of diminishing returns after the first night anyway.

[RWarNmsn69]

Thanks! Worked great as I found the SA member I was looking for.

Yes sir, you're welcome!