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  1. #1308
    Quote Originally Posted by DieselMike  [View Original Post]
    I admire your experience and knowledge, Popeye. It's always good to have alternative negotiating strategies. Lord knows; most of the providers are lousy business people, so it's up to us to "make the market", either by stating what we are willing to pay for specified services or keeping our $$$ in our pockets. And so many of the providers aren't very good at delivering the services agreed to anyways.

    I am very skittish about talking $$$ before meeting. I my mind there are too many things that can go wrong. I've had girls do a meet-and-greet just to talk business and even then I'll wait to see if they ask "what do you usually pay? If they ask; my response is "$100 and no time limit". Most of the time they say "OK". If they don't ask; the conversation will come around to that subject and I'll put the offer on the table. I think, by not talking $$$ right away, it puts the provider in the position of having to "sell" the product, rather than the buyer paying a "wanting tax".
    The best way I can imagine to demonstrate wisdom would be to quit this nonsense. LOL. In the meantime, here I am at the bottom of the barrel. Finding nothing worth scraping.

  2. #1307
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctimonious6  [View Original Post]
    If your objective is to get to No, why bother asking? I haven't been involved in this hobby as long as you, but these days I can't imagine finding anybody I'd actually want to rub up against willing to go 120 for an hour of GFE. I agree with you that this hobby is an incredible waste of time and money. But spending months shopping unsuccessfully for the unicorn who will say yes to a bargain basement offer and turn out not to be a disgusting, drug-addled disaster seems like an even bigger waste of time.
    Good point. I have no answer to your excellent question.

    With most of these girls, when I actually meet them and reflect on all the time I put into it, I feel like a complete idiot. So if I can short-circuit that, that's good. Of course, that doesn't get me closer to finding what I want. As you said, the unicorn is elusive.

  3. #1306
    Quote Originally Posted by Popeyemadison  [View Original Post]
    This is my usual script:

    Incall?

    Donations?

    GFE?

    Lately, the starting quote is $150 hh /$250 h, which is kind of a non-starter for me. I've paid more in the past, but rarely has paying more meant it's better.

    So I think I'm going to experiment for a while with stating my offer first:

    $120 for a full hour of full GFE.

    Of course, even a yes to that doesn't mean anything. But I sidestep having to walk them down off the ledge of something I have no intent of paying.

    The strategy is to get to No as quickly as possible. Silence within 5 minutes is also No. I don't actually want to do this. Most of these experiences are far from memorable (memorable in a good way, of course).
    I admire your experience and knowledge, Popeye. It's always good to have alternative negotiating strategies. Lord knows; most of the providers are lousy business people, so it's up to us to "make the market", either by stating what we are willing to pay for specified services or keeping our $$$ in our pockets. And so many of the providers aren't very good at delivering the services agreed to anyways.

    I am very skittish about talking $$$ before meeting. I my mind there are too many things that can go wrong. I've had girls do a meet-and-greet just to talk business and even then I'll wait to see if they ask "what do you usually pay? If they ask; my response is "$100 and no time limit". Most of the time they say "OK". If they don't ask; the conversation will come around to that subject and I'll put the offer on the table. I think, by not talking $$$ right away, it puts the provider in the position of having to "sell" the product, rather than the buyer paying a "wanting tax".
    Last edited by DieselMike; 07-01-18 at 14:28. Reason: spelling

  4. #1305

    Serenity

    I saw Serenity yesterday. Good time as usual. She has put on a little weight, but not enough to make a difference for me. I had a great time with her. Sounds like she will have incall for a while.

  5. #1304
    Quote Originally Posted by Popeyemadison  [View Original Post]
    I contacted her once. Her attitude conveyed, "I'm in demand. I have rules. If you don't like them, go fuck yourself. " So cold, it extinguished all possible interest for me.

    I've never even bothered trying again.
    https://www.adultlook.com/p/2912419

    I've never seen Nikki, although I would have liked to. She is very nice to talk to, but out of my price range.

  6. #1303
    Quote Originally Posted by Popeyemadison  [View Original Post]
    This is my usual script:

    Incall?

    Donations?

    GFE?

    Lately, the starting quote is $150 hh /$250 h, which is kind of a non-starter for me. I've paid more in the past, but rarely has paying more meant it's better.

    So I think I'm going to experiment for a while with stating my offer first:

    $120 for a full hour of full GFE.

    Of course, even a yes to that doesn't mean anything. But I sidestep having to walk them down off the ledge of something I have no intent of paying.

    The strategy is to get to No as quickly as possible. Silence within 5 minutes is also No. I don't actually want to do this. Most of these experiences are far from memorable (memorable in a good way, of course).
    If your objective is to get to No, why bother asking? I haven't been involved in this hobby as long as you, but these days I can't imagine finding anybody I'd actually want to rub up against willing to go 120 for an hour of GFE. I agree with you that this hobby is an incredible waste of time and money. But spending months shopping unsuccessfully for the unicorn who will say yes to a bargain basement offer and turn out not to be a disgusting, drug-addled disaster seems like an even bigger waste of time.

  7. #1302
    Quote Originally Posted by DanBoone  [View Original Post]
    Look at her ankle in the last picture.
    Good eyes. Thanks.

  8. #1301

    Script

    This is my usual script:

    Incall?

    Donations?

    GFE?

    Lately, the starting quote is $150 hh /$250 h, which is kind of a non-starter for me. I've paid more in the past, but rarely has paying more meant it's better.

    So I think I'm going to experiment for a while with stating my offer first:

    $120 for a full hour of full GFE.

    Of course, even a yes to that doesn't mean anything. But I sidestep having to walk them down off the ledge of something I have no intent of paying.

    The strategy is to get to No as quickly as possible. Silence within 5 minutes is also No. I don't actually want to do this. Most of these experiences are far from memorable (memorable in a good way, of course).

  9. #1300

    You might wonder

    Where is what's her name?

    Chances are, if she's not posting, she's either dead or in jail.

    https://imgur.com/a/zVOzp54

  10. #1299
    Quote Originally Posted by GunSmoke  [View Original Post]
    Any clues who it might be?

    GS.
    Felon? That should be enough of a clue.

  11. #1298

    Be careful

    Quote Originally Posted by Popeyemadison  [View Original Post]
    One of the girls posting now has a warrant out for her arrest. There was a shootout at a place in Sun Prairie that several girls use, big apartment complex across from Walmart.

    These are the sort of risks we surround ourselves with.

    https://host.madison.com/wsj/news/lo...95c0d20da.html
    Any clues who it might be?

    GS.

  12. #1297

    J petite brunette

    I found this ad interesting:

    http://madison.skipthegames.com/fema...3/561146434395

    Her communication is terribly unreliable. Big surprise there. In her case, she depends on wifi for being able to text. I happened to catch her while she was hanging out at a restaurant near Warner Park.

    I told her I was 10 minutes away as I was parking. So she wouldn't be looking for me yet. So I got there in time to check her out.

    I think the pic is real, but old. She looks haggard. Like she's been awake for days or she's homeless and has no way to freshen up. I didn't make contact. I just left and told her I couldn't make it. My interest evaporated upon seeing her. If I'd committed, I'd probably have gone through with it. And maybe it would be a good time. But getting the opportunity to check her out inconspicuously was helpful.

  13. #1296

    Risks

    One of the girls posting now has a warrant out for her arrest. There was a shootout at a place in Sun Prairie that several girls use, big apartment complex across from Walmart.

    These are the sort of risks we surround ourselves with.

    https://host.madison.com/wsj/news/lo...95c0d20da.html

  14. #1295

    Nikki

    Quote Originally Posted by BionicGuy  [View Original Post]
    I've never seen her either. But she also has an active P411 account. And a web page:

    http://nahtynikkey.cuties-sites.com/m/
    I contacted her once. Her attitude conveyed, "I'm in demand. I have rules. If you don't like them, go fuck yourself. " So cold, it extinguished all possible interest for me.

    I've never even bothered trying again.

  15. #1294
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctimonious6  [View Original Post]
    I've never met her, but she has an ad on Eros and has posted on Switter.
    I've never seen her either. But she also has an active P411 account. And a web page. You can find her eros ad and her escort web page by googling her name (correctly spelled). Nahty Nikkey

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