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  1. #11084

    Good to know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyhornet  [View Original Post]
    I tried the new place in Warrenton at the original Vivi location about a month ago. Had an older, unattractive lady. Her hand technique wasn't bad, but probably won't repeat without intel that they have someone younger and more attractive.

    Oasis in Gainesville: for the table shower, they give you little shorts to wear, so there really isn't any fun to be had in the shower, at least the time I tried it with Chu. The norm here is full time and a decent massage but normally nothing else. And yes, my last two visits they have tried to get me to upgrade to 90 minutes and the shower. I do repeat there, because massage always goes the full time or more and are consistently decent. I normally tip 25-30, unless something unexpected happens which is rare. I have never had a complaint about the tip I provide and they have never specified a tip.

    Haven't been to Vivi in awhile, but been there many times and never had to negotiate a tip. I think the lady I use to see was Amy or Angela, probably late 30's early 40's. She provided a good massage and nice relief and had a friendly personality.
    Thanks for the intel NYHornet. I won't be partaking of the table shower at Oasis based on your reporting, I didn't know about / don't care to don their shorts. With rare exception I generally tip. 2 for legit 60 min massage, upping it to. 4 sometimes. 5 with standard NOVA. RE: XYZ in Warrenton, I'll be in the area next week and may scope it out to see if younger gals are there, if not, I'm not interested either.

  2. #11083

    RS Greenbelt

    After RTFF, I decided a trip out to Greenbelt was in order. I was not disappointed! Greeted by mamasan, typical questions, typical lies. Been here before? Oh, yes but it's been about 4 years. Is Mimi still here?

    Was chastised for not calling ahead. Busy day, it seems. Met Joy. Holy cow! 20's, busty, cute AF! She said hello like an old friend I hadn't seen in years. TS warm and welcoming. Greeted the boys with a handshake! LOL! . 7 to the house. On the table, face down, walking on back to light finger tip massage on back, legs, glutes, grundle. Flip, FS offered right away for $. 4. Countered with $. 1, settled at $. 2. DATY, very receptive and vocal and not shy about giving direction when needed. Seemed to genuinely finish. My turn. CBJ and I was just overwhelmed and finished. Followed up with cuddles and clean up.

    15/10 would visit again.

  3. #11082

    4-hand

    Quote Originally Posted by JimBliss478  [View Original Post]
    I looked around but not surprisingly, there are not much posts about four hands massage. Does anyone have any recommendation
    Dumb question but to confirm. Would I need to tip both ladies? Never done it before.
    KK offers 4-hand. I would definitely try her and her ladies. I up the tip a bit. Sometimes double; they are both working and deserve something.

  4. #11081
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyhornet  [View Original Post]
    Yes, you must tip both, which is biggest drawback as it can get expensive. It can be a very nice experience. I've seen some of the Chinese places offer 4 hands for $100 for 45 min. If it includes a HE with both ladies contributing, they both deserve an equal tip. I've had situations where one would leave the other to do the finish and in that case, maybe leave a combined tip and let them figure the split.

    Other guys may have more experience with this then I do.
    What brought me to my now go to spot was an advertisement for 4 hands but the other girl wasn't available. I was always curious about the finish and tip logistics. Hoping to hear some experiences.

  5. #11080
    Quote Originally Posted by JimBliss478  [View Original Post]
    I looked around but not surprisingly, there are not much posts about four hands massage. Does anyone have any recommendation?

    Dumb question but to confirm. Would I need to tip both ladies? Never done it before.
    Yes, you must tip both, which is biggest drawback as it can get expensive. It can be a very nice experience. I've seen some of the Chinese places offer 4 hands for $100 for 45 min. If it includes a HE with both ladies contributing, they both deserve an equal tip. I've had situations where one would leave the other to do the finish and in that case, maybe leave a combined tip and let them figure the split.

    Other guys may have more experience with this then I do.

  6. #11079
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxx0  [View Original Post]
    I stopped by Vivi and was met by "Apple," a nice older asian lady.

    Summary: she is of pleasant demeanor, I request / received a table shower and 60 min massage for. 7 house, . 5 tip, total $. 2.

    Added details: Nothing extraordinary on the massage, on the flip, she asked how much you tip for extras, I put up 4 fingers, she negotiated up to 5 fingers, agreed, the race is on. I started OTC roaming, she said 6 fingers if I touch her, MF, okay, no touching her, stay with. 5 tip and enjoy the moment. She started slow, sped up quickly, has very small hands, when done she cleaned me with a warm towel then said "done, you want water," I asked for my remaining 10 min, to which she replied "you have 2 min, but okay," and proceeded to scratch my head and a bit of a neck massage, after 2 min said "done, you want water," I gave up and said yes to the water, dressed gave her the. 5 tip and departed w / no plan to repeat. Unsure who else may work there now, but I think at least one other gal was in back.

    I know from past experience Vivi gals want. 5 tips and will push for it, so that was expected, being shorted on time when I am giving a bit more for the massage and tip is the issue for me, Gainesville and Manassas have better deals. Oasis in G'Ville has. 6 60 min massage and. 4 tips go smoothly although they generally try to up-sell to the $ for 90 min near the end. My last visit there near the end they also noted they now have a table shower for. 1 extra, more up-sell after I declined the added time. I also declined the table shower on this visit. Manassas has too many options to list in this post, ranging from. 5 to. 8 for the hour massage, then services and tips vary.

    I saw on CityXguide (link below) a new place opened at the old vivi (years ago) location on the second floor, however, the prices were equal to Vivi and. 25 extra, a bit much, for the table shower, plus not wanting to venture into new territory on this visit to Warrenton.

    https://cityxguide.com/escorts/asian...enton-11949485

    Have fun, Good times always!
    I tried the new place in Warrenton at the original Vivi location about a month ago. Had an older, unattractive lady. Her hand technique wasn't bad, but probably won't repeat without intel that they have someone younger and more attractive.

    Oasis in Gainesville: for the table shower, they give you little shorts to wear, so there really isn't any fun to be had in the shower, at least the time I tried it with Chu. The norm here is full time and a decent massage but normally nothing else. And yes, my last two visits they have tried to get me to upgrade to 90 minutes and the shower. I do repeat there, because massage always goes the full time or more and are consistently decent. I normally tip 25-30, unless something unexpected happens which is rare. I have never had a complaint about the tip I provide and they have never specified a tip.

    Haven't been to Vivi in awhile, but been there many times and never had to negotiate a tip. I think the lady I use to see was Amy or Angela, probably late 30's early 40's. She provided a good massage and nice relief and had a friendly personality.

  7. #11078

    4 Hands?

    I looked around but not surprisingly, there are not much posts about four hands massage. Does anyone have any recommendation?

    Dumb question but to confirm. Would I need to tip both ladies? Never done it before.

  8. #11077

    Adam368 you have a PM

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam368  [View Original Post]
    Coco will be back next week. She has been the best out there.
    You have a PM.

  9. #11076

    Tipping

    I was wondering how much you guy tip them when you book 90 minutes or 2 hrs session? I'm thinking you would tip double the amounts of a 1 hr session.

  10. #11075

    Correction to Prior Post

    I called (after the fact, ugh) and the lady who answered stated that the. 7 60 min massage includes table shower if desired. The. 25 table shower is a stand-alone offered service without massage. The next time I am in the area I'll stop in for a visit and upload a report on XYZ Massage.

    Former Vivi & Lily Spa location, now XYZ Massage.

    https://cityxguide.com/escorts/asian...enton-11949485

    Call for service: 540-428-2380.

    7 Days :9:30 am-9:30 pm.

    Price List:

    Back Rub.

    60 minutes /$70.

    30 minutes /$50.

    120 minutes /$110.

    Table Shower /$25.

    Body Scrub /$50.

    Foot Rub.

    30 minutes /$30.

    60 minutes /$50.

    Hot Stone.

    60 minutes /$80.

    Acupressure.

    60 minutes /$80.

    294 Lee Hwy #202 Warrenton, VA 20186.

  11. #11074

    Warrenton VA AMP Visit

    I stopped by Vivi and was met by "Apple," a nice older asian lady.

    Summary: she is of pleasant demeanor, I request / received a table shower and 60 min massage for. 7 house, . 5 tip, total $. 2.

    Added details: Nothing extraordinary on the massage, on the flip, she asked how much you tip for extras, I put up 4 fingers, she negotiated up to 5 fingers, agreed, the race is on. I started OTC roaming, she said 6 fingers if I touch her, MF, okay, no touching her, stay with. 5 tip and enjoy the moment. She started slow, sped up quickly, has very small hands, when done she cleaned me with a warm towel then said "done, you want water," I asked for my remaining 10 min, to which she replied "you have 2 min, but okay," and proceeded to scratch my head and a bit of a neck massage, after 2 min said "done, you want water," I gave up and said yes to the water, dressed gave her the. 5 tip and departed w / no plan to repeat. Unsure who else may work there now, but I think at least one other gal was in back.

    I know from past experience Vivi gals want. 5 tips and will push for it, so that was expected, being shorted on time when I am giving a bit more for the massage and tip is the issue for me, Gainesville and Manassas have better deals. Oasis in G'Ville has. 6 60 min massage and. 4 tips go smoothly although they generally try to up-sell to the $ for 90 min near the end. My last visit there near the end they also noted they now have a table shower for. 1 extra, more up-sell after I declined the added time. I also declined the table shower on this visit. Manassas has too many options to list in this post, ranging from. 5 to. 8 for the hour massage, then services and tips vary.

    I saw on CityXguide (link below) a new place opened at the old vivi (years ago) location on the second floor, however, the prices were equal to Vivi and. 25 extra, a bit much, for the table shower, plus not wanting to venture into new territory on this visit to Warrenton.

    https://cityxguide.com/escorts/asian...enton-11949485

    Have fun, Good times always!

  12. #11073
    Senior Member


    Posts: 371

    Thanks for the excellent advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    There's been a lot of back-and-forth on this issue but, IMHO, your experience backs up my belief that tipping in advance is generally not a good strategy.
    As I said, I'm just visiting in this area, so I wasn't sure on the protocol. After reading your post, I feel educated and like I could have tried some of your strategies to get a better experience. Oh well. Where I live in San Diego, there are basically two scenarios: a) you go to an HE only place and there is no negotiation before or after. $40 is expected; or, b) you go to a FS place and the only negotiation is 1.2 vs 1.4, which really depends on the girl, and to me isn't that big of a deal.

    Anyway, you live and learn. Thanks again for the advice. If you ever find yourself in San Diego, I can help point you in the right direction.

  13. #11072
    Quote Originally Posted by NovaRanger  [View Original Post]
    Bamboo Therapy is a nice place- but does not have TS facilities.

    I saw Lee (may have been Laya) last night. A nice older lady (over 40) with a very good massage technique / touch.

    A+ marks for the massage, post-massage wipe-down (many warm towels), excellent attitude and very clean facility.

    Another plus as far as I am concerned- they do not rush / do not short you on time and they seem appreciative of customers (assist with shoes, etc).

    Standard rates and tips accepted with grace. I will likely repeat.

    Always be nice to the ladies.

    NR.
    This may be the same Lee (then Mona), I saw for years at the Bamboo in Woodbridge. Very nice lady who I had many great sessions with.

  14. #11071

    For ladies you've seen before.

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    There's been a lot of back-and-forth on this issue but, IMHO, your experience backs up my belief that tipping in advance is generally not a good strategy.

    Are there exceptions? Sure, for ladies you've seen before or for whom you have advance intel (about the individual masseuse, not just general info about the spa). Other than that, tipping in advance puts you completely at the mercy of the provider. The hobby is enough of a crapshoot already and we need to maintain as much leverage as we can.
    JMS is absolutely correct. I think "tipping in advance" is a situation experienced clients and massage providers have learned is counter productive. New mongers, new clients and new providers may lack the confidence to believe that all will be well that ends well.

    IMO, the ladies remember clients and past tipping practice- if you've seen a provider before and provided the appropriate tip for services, you will very likely receive better or at least as good service on subsequent visits- and the provider will not be worried about seeing a tip in advance.

    Always be nice to the ladies.

    NR.

  15. #11070

    Eva the Polish masseuse.

    Hello,

    I'll be traveling through NoVa and I was thinking of getting a massage.

    Any intel on Eva, the Polish masseuse?

    https://massage.eros.com/washington_...1.htm?cat=6193

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