"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[SandPiper540]

I had a sb I was seeing for fuck dates only, no dinners, movie dates, just fun for 1000/ mo. She dropped me for a sd who she swears is giving her near 6000/ month and he has not that much interest in sex with her but does it on occasion, but he likes just talking, dates, having her around, but he required her to have him as her only sd. She has no reason to lie and I believe her and of course understand her dropping me for a 6000 daddy. But tell me why would any dude who is single as he is give out that kind of cash? I mean I would feel like I was a total loser if I put out that kind of money just for companionship. Funny thing is she would have been his only sb if he only gave half that, but he started w /6000 so who will turn that down.

Literally every SB on that site claims they only want 1 SD. Honestly I don't know whether to believe this or not. Anyhow, why the fuck would she tell 1 SD about the other SD? If she would just keep her mouth shut about it she will increase her college donations.

[Geechie Dan]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...2-eae3c90bf4ed

We've exchanged msgs. She seems legit, pretty up-front about her situation and expectations, but gut says something's not quite right, can't figure it out, so looking for other input. What am I missing?

I actually met her today. That pic may be a little dated. She says she has a child, so that pic may be pre-child. Don't get me wrong, I'd still tap that, she's just got more meat on the bones now. She's well manicured and seems nice and open minded. However, the "arrangement" she quoted me was a bit steep.

[JustLonely]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...2-eae3c90bf4ed

We've exchanged msgs. She seems legit, pretty up-front about her situation and expectations, but gut says something's not quite right, can't figure it out, so looking for other input. What am I missing?

She just sent me an offer for 150 through WYP today. I have no public photo there and a bio only saying looking for fun. But I still get out of the blue offers for dates. So I am guessing she is a pro like many on there in recent months.

[BagIt]

Hey guys, been thinking about getting into the SA game in my area again tried a while ago to limited success (lots of GPS) but with the change in climate maybe I need to give it a go again.

Been reading your "Highlights" thread and TONS of great info there, but much of it is from 2012 - 2014. Has the SA game changed through the years for you all, and if so, how (and how do you approach it these days to efficiently get girls to the FC at a reasonable rate)?

Kwag.

Depends what type you want, I've seen some all types like a bbw would give great dt BBBJ for 50, or a high end gps model type for 500/2 hrs, to a gnd type for 150-200, to hot milfs who just like to fuck, to college cuties who grew up doing BJ like I did giving a handshake, LOL.

[Kwagmire]

Hey guys, been thinking about getting into the SA game in my area again — tried a while ago to limited success (lots of GPS) but with the change in climate maybe I need to give it a go again.

Been reading your "Highlights" thread and TONS of great info there, but much of it is from 2012 - 2014. Has the SA game changed through the years for you all, and if so, how (and how do you approach it these days to efficiently get girls to the FC at a reasonable rate)?

Kwag.

[IbDaddy]

[QUOTE=CantWinLosin;3805872]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...2-eae3c90bf4ed

[CantWinLosin]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...2-eae3c90bf4ed

We've exchanged msgs. She seems legit, pretty up-front about her situation and expectations, but gut says something's not quite right, can't figure it out, so looking for other input. What am I missing?

[CantWinLosin]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...5-8ae6db0a6614

REally full of her self -- off the wall elitist views, but says she will get private for $300.

Demands to know your real life identiy before agreeing to meet, then wants the $300 cash when you first meet, regardless if anything happens after.

Hard pass.

Plus she's not local. Said she lives an hour and 20 minutes from RIC.

[FarFarAway]

You can use hangouts. google.com with your GV number as well. It's a slightly nicer interface IMHO.

I can't speak to Epic, but I roll my own VPN with Digital Ocean. Even with a US address, I get blocked by sites that are afraid of being scraped such as Hotel, CL, etc.

So nice to hear from some old bowl buddies again after this pause, like BikeRider.

Another topic of recent interest for me: girls who use phrases like 'don't waste (or "waist" - jeez!) my time'. I was once advised by a bowl mentor out west here that he avoided profiles that have any negativity at all in them. You sometimes see these statements, and to me they are code for GPS. Just like 'I know my worth'. I have gotten into sugar negotiations w / girls in messaging, and when they get pissed off with my offer, I see the 'don't waste my time' comment.

I just have a sense this is related mostly to the $ and not to some of our frustrations on here about time-wasters, such as young ones who are on SA and message, but can never screw up the courage to actually meet.

[FarFarAway]

I am here to sing the praises of this.

I am using the Epic browser, which has it's own built-in VPN, to keep a little more under the radar. You can't really use Tor w / the gmail account, they want to authenticate your device every time (since the login comes from a different IP address).

Are you having any issues with sites shutting you down because Epic is showing that you are in Russia?

I want to use that browser more but that has been an issue for me.

A2

Dear Mr. Admin Sir. I have not had an issue with that. The sites I use it with are SA, gmail, and hushmail. I was under the impression that its VPN exit point was Santa Clara, CA. That has shown up a time or two, anyway.

Thanks

[BikeRider]

I am here to sing the praises of this. I use it on my Android burner phone. That gives me a Google account along w / the GV number. I noted that on the phone I was seeing that texts were on the Voice app, and separately as if they were emails coming into the address I set up. I logged into that gmail account on my computer, and there they were. Even better, within the 'email' is a little Google Voice icon. Click it and a window opens that shows all text conversations just like they would be on your phone, including any photos. If you like to get the photos you've been sent off your phone, this is a dead easy way.

This also works particularly well for me as I have a SO. I *never* have my burner in my house, the closest it ever gets is inside a first aid kit in my trunk. This was impeding my communicating w / SBs, obviously, when at home. It is not considered unusual by the SO that I am on my computer, though. So, I can simply log into that Gmail and I have texting capability. I don't use the texts I bought on my prepaid Tracfone, GV is considered a web service, so I just have to have sufficient megabytes.

I am using the Epic browser, which has it's own built-in VPN, to keep a little more under the radar. You can't really use Tor w / the gmail account, they want to authenticate your device every time (since the login comes from a different IP address).

Are you having any issues with sites shutting you down because Epic is showing that you are in Russia?

I want to use that browser more but that has been an issue for me.

A2

You can use hangouts. google.com with your GV number as well. It's a slightly nicer interface IMHO.

I can't speak to Epic, but I roll my own VPN with Digital Ocean. Even with a US address, I get blocked by sites that are afraid of being scraped such as Hotel, CL, etc.

[FarFarAway]

I am here to sing the praises of this. I use it on my Android burner phone. That gives me a Google account along w / the GV number. I noted that on the phone I was seeing that texts were on the Voice app, and separately as if they were emails coming into the address I set up. I logged into that gmail account on my computer, and there they were. Even better, within the 'email' is a little Google Voice icon. Click it and a window opens that shows all text conversations just like they would be on your phone, including any photos. If you like to get the photos you've been sent off your phone, this is a dead easy way.

This also works particularly well for me as I have a SO. I *never* have my burner in my house, the closest it ever gets is inside a first aid kit in my trunk. This was impeding my communicating w / SBs, obviously, when at home. It is not considered unusual by the SO that I am on my computer, though. So, I can simply log into that Gmail and I have texting capability. I don't use the texts I bought on my prepaid Tracfone, GV is considered a web service, so I just have to have sufficient megabytes.

I am using the Epic browser, which has it's own built-in VPN, to keep a little more under the radar. You can't really use Tor w / the gmail account, they want to authenticate your device every time (since the login comes from a different IP address).

Are you having any issues with sites shutting you down because Epic is showing that you are in Russia?

I want to use that browser more but that has been an issue for me.

A2

[Ernest Ll]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...5-8ae6db0a6614

REally full of her self -- off the wall elitist views, but says she will get private for $300.

Demands to know your real life identiy before agreeing to meet, then wants the $300 cash when you first meet, regardless if anything happens after.

Hard pass.

[Beachesnole02]

I wonder where the guys doing "Backroom Casting" movies get their talent? There's a lot that I would definitely be interested. I like a simple girl next door look.

Used to be Craigslist. They ran regular ads in the talent section in my area. Up until recent events changed that. Good question is where do they go next for recruiting.

[FruitNinja]

I wonder where the guys doing "Backroom Casting" movies get their talent? There's a lot that I would definitely be interested. I like a simple girl next door look.