Bare Back Ladies

[Nrlmus]

You mean the younger generation who like "safe spaces", prohibition of "hate speech", and organized shout-downs on campus and banning of political views of that they disagree with or otherwise consider "inappropriate for the communty"? THAT younger generation?! Don't hold your breath!!

100% agree. I think in some ways all this is a reflection of new winds blowing from the up and coming generation.

I don't think America could ever be a communist country because that would involve abolition of private property which I think (ellipsis) I don't see happening, but the tyranny based on safety concerns and moral values of some people that are presented as "our values" and/or our safety"? I can see that. I worked in Law Enforcement settings for 15 years and one thing I learned there is that the US legal system and constitutionality of this and that can be quite flexible, that for every law there seem to be a waver or an exception or whatever else, and constitutionality of anything is a rather vague matter too. What I'm trying to say that from "rule of law" to "free for all" is not as far as we might believe.

[KingOfFours]

All this politics is temporary, but it is very disruptive. The old guys in DC try to score points, but in a long run the new younger generation will not accept any limitations on their freedom of the Internet.

-BH.

You mean the younger generation who like "safe spaces", prohibition of "hate speech", and organized shout-downs on campus and banning of political views of that they disagree with or otherwise consider "inappropriate for the communty"? THAT younger generation?! Don't hold your breath!!

[Big Head]

www.AdultWork.com

An example of a site in the UK. But there is very little USA girls there. It's up and running. The women need to smarten up and look for alternatives. They relied too much on the BP and CL sites. This is no longer a free country. Before you know it, we'll have to use the dark web to just find a booty call. The days of internet freedom are sadly coming to an end. Hopefully things will soon go forward instead of backwards. But I'm not holding my breath.

P.S. I am still able to access ListCrawler.com aka EscortBabylon on Android. Make contacts and save them before the Feds take that down too.

All this politics is temporary, but it is very disruptive. The old guys in DC try to score points, but in a long run the new younger generation will not accept any limitations on their freedom of the Internet.

-BH.

[Aluver]

My two cents: for UTRs and more exclusive types I suspect the prices would go up. I just spoke to someone who said that usually when something like this happens she finds herself in greater demand then before. That's what happened when CL stopped advertising escorts and before BP took over. People don't have as many options, and also get a bit more concerned about LE activities, so they become more risk averse and revert to "known commodities".

Many who used to be on BP would probably hit the streets. There I suspect the price would go down. It's also possible that many former BP escorts would join P411 and establish another layer of options there. I doubt if Eros would see much of the difference.

P411 is chickening out too, just looked into it and they are not accepting new escort profiles from the US.

[KingOfFours]

My two cents: for UTRs and more exclusive types I suspect the prices would go up. I just spoke to someone who said that usually when something like this happens she finds herself in greater demand then before. That's what happened when CL stopped advertising escorts and before BP took over. People don't have as many options, and also get a bit more concerned about LE activities, so they become more risk averse and revert to "known commodities".

Many who used to be on BP would probably hit the streets. There I suspect the price would go down. It's also possible that many former BP escorts would join P411 and establish another layer of options there. I doubt if Eros would see much of the difference.

I mainly agree with that. One added note though: Girls who provided shitty service and had to rely primarily on backpage for a steady flow of new clueless suckers will have to drop their rates even if they don't go the street route. Girls who end up advertising on some of the new or previously minor sites which will now fill the void, will be cheaper because they will have to drop their rates after they lose the backpage pipeline of fresh suckers. But they will be just the ones that provide the shittiest service who no one wants to see anyway. : (.

[KingOfFours]

I have a fear that the president will sign it. He will want to appear tough on prostitution, considering the whole 'Stormy Daniels' scandal.

Does not matter if he signs it or not. There are way more than enough votes to override. I think it's really just a technical matter as to when it becomes law. When it does we may or may not be talking here anymore.

[TwinSnow99]

Anyone want to hazard a guess about whether this will put downward or upward pressure on prices?

OM.

Depends how desperate the girls get.

They will more than likely try to take advantage of the situation right now and raise their prices. If there isn't a BP alternative soon then the pendulum will swing the other way. No matter how good a provider is, they will always need a steady flow of new clients to maintain.

A lot of these girls can't compete with the girls on the high end sites. Theres only a finite amount of mongers paying those prices, and they certainly aren't going to pay those prices for BP level girls.

[Nrlmus]

Anyone want to hazard a guess about whether this will put downward or upward pressure on prices?

OM.

My two cents: for UTRs and more exclusive types I suspect the prices would go up. I just spoke to someone who said that usually when something like this happens she finds herself in greater demand then before. That's what happened when CL stopped advertising escorts and before BP took over. People don't have as many options, and also get a bit more concerned about LE activities, so they become more risk averse and revert to "known commodities".

Many who used to be on BP would probably hit the streets. There I suspect the price would go down. It's also possible that many former BP escorts would join P411 and establish another layer of options there. I doubt if Eros would see much of the difference.

[Oxy Moron]

Anyone want to hazard a guess about whether this will put downward or upward pressure on prices?

OM.

[TwinSnow99]

Also keep in mind that this Gespapo bill is NOT law yet. The President has not yet signed it. When it DOES become law, the "down for maintenance" may very well become "down forever". So we have a fairly narrow window till it becomes law. It is my hypothesis that all of this "maintenance" going on is technical preparation so that they can QUICKLY take the websites down and cover tracks, when it becomes law. Because at THAT point, the webmasters do indeed become liable. But we are NOT there yet! (I hope they don't bust me for practicing law without a licence, LOL!

I have a fear that the president will sign it. He will want to appear tough on prostitution, considering the whole 'Stormy Daniels' scandal.

[KingOfFours]

Also keep in mind that this Gespapo bill is NOT law yet. The President has not yet signed it. When it DOES become law, the "down for maintenance" may very well become "down forever". So we have a fairly narrow window till it becomes law. It is my hypothesis that all of this "maintenance" going on is technical preparation so that they can QUICKLY take the websites down and cover tracks, when it becomes law. Because at THAT point, the webmasters do indeed become liable. But we are NOT there yet! (I hope they don't bust me for practicing law without a licence, LOL!

With the "minor" review sites that are still up, I've noticed extensive "down for maintence" time lately. This has been occuring here on USA too, and on most of the other sites that are still up. And I see that there is a big alert, above, about the existence of a "secondary communications channel" in case this site goes too. So they are ALL making contingency preparations. Because, except for the recent swallowing up of backpage by the FBI, the other sites took their adult sections down VOLUNTARILY.

I will continue to post my finds here on USA whenever I can. But the handwriting is on the wall, gentleman. Like the websites, we should be carefully making our own contingency plans, too. Which means private communications.

[KingOfFours]

With the "minor" review sites that are still up, I've noticed extensive "down for maintence" time lately. This has been occuring here on USA too, and on most of the other sites that are still up. And I see that there is a big alert, above, about the existence of a "secondary communications channel" in case this site goes too. So they are ALL making contingency preparations. Because, except for the recent swallowing up of backpage by the FBI, the other sites took their adult sections down VOLUNTARILY.

I will continue to post my finds here on USA whenever I can. But the handwriting is on the wall, gentleman. Like the websites, we should be carefully making our own contingency plans, too. Which means private communications.

[KingOfFours]

If they want to go farther, the government can requests all internet's providers to block anyone with.

A US IP address to these sites, even for those servers located out of US.

If they do that, the only way to assess these sites is with a VPN proxy. Dammed it is getting worse.

Yeah, you may be able to access the ads and review sites with these tricks, but the point is, the PROVIDERS are not going to bite. They have nowhere to advertise for the exposure they need. So we are going to be stuck with the same old pussies to fuck. At present, it appears that the only useful place to find out about new girls is HERE. Other than that, private email.

[KingOfFours]

Onebackpage now appears to have joined the list of other losers that took their US escort and dating sections down.

I guess it is still up, but is going offline frequently.

[Bat21]

If they want to go farther, the government can requests all internet's providers to block anyone with.

A US IP address to these sites, even for those servers located out of US.

If they do that, the only way to assess these sites is with a VPN proxy. Dammed it is getting worse.