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  1. #18603
    I don't consider this bragging. You should ask her why she is pawning you off.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterWanger69  [View Original Post]
    This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.

  2. #18602

    Smiling Sole

    Stopped by this place at 915 S. Western to check it out after a session at Yuan Yuan (mentioned below). I had been there over a year ago, but I'm always curious about changes in provider's, etc. Got pricing info from a gal named Zeno, who used to work at Lolium Spa at Western near North Ave. She acted like she didn't recognize me but I sure remembered her. Has anyone seen her at this place? Any extras available?

    Thanks!

  3. #18601
    Senior Member


    Posts: 3468

    Question to your question.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterWanger69  [View Original Post]
    This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.
    How about asking her why your spa ATF is referring you to other girls.

  4. #18600
    Quote Originally Posted by PeterWanger69  [View Original Post]
    This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.
    I've never had that happen to me & I've done this for awhile. I also talked to a few gals. I was curious if others stayed in shape like me- I'm not perfect but I workout regularly. She said no, many are very overweight. I'm not judging- it's cool- just curious. That wouldn't stop them. Gals massage older guys, younger guys, overweight guys, thin guys, bald guys, etc. They don't care. So I'm guessing it might be a hygiene issue like the other poster said- that one could be a deal breaker- unless maybe she's going to be the manager & do less massages or something. Always make sure you shower, etc. before hand and clean any area that might be an issue. And that means ANY area. If you need to do some manscaping on your back, or elsewhere better do that too. One of the American places in Belvidere (ERS)- used to force guys to shower before hand- even if some of us already showered like me which was kind of a pain. Brush your teeth, use mouthwash, don't have garlic for lunch, etc. Don't wear cologne or after shave. That's all I can think of. If all else fails just ask her what's the deal?

  5. #18599

    After 1. 5 yrs

    Quote Originally Posted by Riina  [View Original Post]
    I had an ATF that declined my business after two years. She said I was emotionally draining her every time we met. I think she was scared of getting hurt.
    Hey man, I feel you too. My long time regular 1. 5 yrs told me that she only views me as a "good friend" even though she has a husband and has been doing FS with me regularly for this time!

    It is interesting how they text you with hearts and hugs and tell you that they miss you and want to see you. Once, you go there for appointment, it is like ok lets get to it (FS) then shower then water then.

    Confirm with you a follow up appointment in couple of weeks! Total lack of true affection!

  6. #18598
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1653
    Quote Originally Posted by PeterWanger69  [View Original Post]
    This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.
    I had an ATF that declined my business after two years. She said I was emotionally draining her every time we met. I think she was scared of getting hurt.

  7. #18597

    2 years

    I have been told by therapist that it could be they are bored with you. Could be hygeine issue, Size and your weight. I heard couple say old guys can't get hard or cum and keep wanting the girl to stroke it.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterWanger69  [View Original Post]
    This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.

  8. #18596

    Question.

    This may come across as bragging but I am curious to get the opinion of the board on this. My last few visits to my ATF, she has referred me to new girls at the spa and even though she hasn't steered me wrong yet so far since I've gotten the same service as I always get from her. I just wonder why she has not wanted my business and given me the new girls in the spa? I've been seeing her for over 2 years now so I hope she's not getting tired of me! Like I said, not trying to brag or anything like that but would love some opinions on this.

  9. #18595

    Mp

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyByNature90  [View Original Post]
    I had the girls name wrong. It's not Emily, her name is Julie actually.
    Just to let you know it called Yuan Yuan.

  10. #18594

    819 s western

    I had the girls name wrong. It's not Emily, her name is Julie actually.

  11. #18593

    Tao on Chicago

    Happened to be in the Chicago Ave & Western neighborhood. There are three spas within a block or two of each other. There's lots of construction going on down there so parking is horrible, and the business seem slow as a result.

    First spot I tried- the Open sign was on, but the lights were out and nobody answered the doorbell. #2 was Golden Dreams, I peeked in the window and saw one of those huge 'we only do therapeautic massage" (or something along those lines) next to the price list Which was kind of convoluted. Acupuncture, cupping, etc were on the price list. Deep Tissue Massage, $75. Next.

    Picked Tao because I could see two youngish girls in the window, kinda laying around and looking bored. One in particular looked like she was sleeping.

    Door fee 60. Place seemed pretty nice, pretty large inside.

    Can't remember the girl's name already. Might have been Lucy. Anyway, she was youngish, a little plump, but what I liked was what she was wearing. Not a battle suit, but an easy access dress.

    The massage itself was not very good. The same three moves repeated a thousand times. A little tease at the end before the flip. After the flip, she went to business almost immediately. Because of her dress / panties only / no battle armor outfit, I kind of thought more might be on the table, but it was not meant to be. Did drop the panties, but she wouldn't allow them all the way to the floor. She allowed a little roaming down there, but nothing more. And nothing up top; seemed kind of strange I could touch down below but not up top.

    She was definitely plump under there, but because she was young I still found her kind of hot.

    Kind of a mixed review here, not bad or particularly great.

  12. #18592
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolPatrick  [View Original Post]
    She capitalizes on a very special niche. https://www.milkingtable.com Many videos with made-shift milking table on pornhub for people to watch and remember for stimulus recall when people are getting happy ending from a typical AMT but her service can't really get them going.

    Now seriously, if she carries her milking table to travel all over the country to provide a good milking table massage, you have to give her credit for that. That is good business practice. Whether we want to pay that much for the specialized service is one thing, but we have to be fair about what she does.

    I'm like you, Ron, that I'm used to the regular table. But I'd book her if I crave a milking table experience.
    Can't afford those prices. Smh.

  13. #18591
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolPatrick  [View Original Post]
    She capitalizes on a very special niche. https://www.milkingtable.com Many videos with made-shift milking table on pornhub for people to watch and remember for stimulus recall when people are getting happy ending from a typical AMT but her service can't really get them going.

    Now seriously, if she carries her milking table to travel all over the country to provide a good milking table massage, you have to give her credit for that. That is good business practice. Whether we want to pay that much for the specialized service is one thing, but we have to be fair about what she does.

    I'm like you, Ron, that I'm used to the regular table. But I'd book her if I crave a milking table experience.
    I agree with both of you guys. That's way out of my price range, regardless if she's Helen of Troy, but the uniqueness of it is really cool. I'll say this, the video she has on her site is pretty hot considering the necessary limitations she had to comply with. I saw Neeva, a petite Indian massage therapist, years ago. Not only was she really hot, but it sounds like she provided a similar edging type of massage to what Rachel does, which was incredible. Sadly Neeva no longer provides massages anymore. Not many gals use that style which is frustrating.

  14. #18590

    Stacy

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolPatrick  [View Original Post]
    It's quite funny to see so many PMs when I posted about an affordable providers for most fellows. So I find I need to set a few things straight for those interested.

    Stacy hardly even advertises anymore. The URL on TER profile 298005 is an online crawler's archive of her very old ad. She is using the number (likely google voice) for a long time. She reveals her alias in the voice mail and next to her door bell. The neighborhood is quite and in the safer area of the Rogers Park. Because the general information on TER can be accessed by everybody, I won't respond or share her digit. It is right there for you and not a guarded secret.

    She is a very nice girl, but her personality is very eccentric. If you can read TER reviews, all are true and described her personality very accurately. To be honest, if you are not laid back, patient, and open-minded enough, you are likely to be annoyed and turned off. Hence I said, you need to read her mood when you are in her place with her. She is who she is, just know that, it's also because of the eccentricity, she is more than happy to lick your asshole like her favorite ice cream than open her legs to let you fuck her. There are a few reports saying FS is possible, but from what I can tell, it's very YMMV and it's not about money. Don't push or things will get a lot weirder if she is annoyed or raises her temper.

    Her massage set up is really NOT good. It's a mat on the floor, she puts a cushion under your belly and groin to lift your ass up (it is not as nice as those you can find in sex toy store). She put towel on it, but if you care deeply about sanitization, consider yourself warned. I don't see it as problem because I believe it is clean for what I can observe. Also, laying on a 3-in mat (on the floor essentially) is definitely not as comfy as on a regular bed or massage table.

    She uses lots, I means lots, of coconut oil for the massage, she is thin with B+ cups, when she rubs your back with her body, it is as fun as nuru. But I have to take a long shower at her place to wash most away. She was happy to shower with me and I had a great chat with her then.

    She also would let you know that, she is very likely to be late for the appointment. She is very okay if you are late for 30 minutes for your 2 pm appointment, as long as you let her know in advance. Yes, she seems to consider 2:30 start is pretty normal for a 2 pm meeting. To her defense, she probably just start to prepare herself just a short period of time before 2 pm. And that's how she lives her life. Don't challenge or lecture her, don't even let her feel that you may have your contempt about not being punctual.

    She has enough business to get by, and she doesn't have a good business mindset to do and plan things effectively. I don't think she keeps good tracks of booking inquiries and rarely responds in a prompt fashion. You just have to be persistent and not get caught up on why she missed your requests. It took me a while to get her response and it was likely my text popped up at the right moment. She also hates disrespectful language and attitude and can sniff thing out. She is likely to spend 15-20 minutes to decide what music she wants to play for the session, while she is also trying to do small talk. This is just her, for better or worse.

    As far as appearance goes, the images in the archive is accurate, and old. She is not hot, but not ugly either, probably in her 30's, typical GND who may not catch your eyes when she walks by you. I think she priced herself very fair, all things considered, even with the amount of work I need to do. This is the tradeoff between spending $130 and droping $300 or $400.

    I had a little miscommunication with her when I try to get to her apartment and she almost refused to meet me. Obviously I resolved the issue and calmed her down and got a pleasant experience and I learned quite a few things about her during all the chat. But it was not easy. You cannot get any more YMMV with Stacy. The pay out is definitely there but it requires some work and manner at your end. She really has some strength to apply good pressure on pain spots, which she can detect too. And then the happy side of the things will flow in naturally at her pace.

    If you are interested in Lingam massage, 2 kgpresents https://www.2kgpresents.com lists it as service item. $350/ hr and you can have just the massage or GFE (or mix) with your provider at 2 kg. They have good reputation.
    After finishing reading the report and learning more about Stacy, I'd say that, for those of us who consider to see her, being under the influence of alcohol or drugs will definitely help to offset Stacey's slightly annoying eccentricity. In any case, the above is probably the best report that I"ve ever read. Respect and appreciation to the author.

  15. #18589

    More on Stacy in Rogers Park and Lingam massage providers

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolPatrick  [View Original Post]
    Yes indeed, Ron. In a perfect world, it should be a 4-hands service for milking table, meaning there is always one MT working under the table when I'm facing down. That would definitely worth the money.

    Enough of chit chat, here is some useful intel for those who doesn't know already:

    Alternatively, we can reach out to Stacy (TER: 298005) in Rogers Park and paid $130/hr for a pretty okay experience of edging, milking and rimming with her make-shift cushion on her mat. As long as you can manage to schedule something with her and be okay with her eccentric personality. I enjoyed her service a lot and praise her effort to rim as deep as she possibly can. $130/hr for decent back massage and bbbj and rimming! The key is to get a hold of her and willing to have almost always a late start of your appointment.

    It's worth the effort in my book because I love chasing service of special niches. YMMV.
    It's quite funny to see so many PMs when I posted about an affordable providers for most fellows. So I find I need to set a few things straight for those interested.

    Stacy hardly even advertises anymore. The URL on TER profile 298005 is an online crawler's archive of her very old ad. She is using the number (likely google voice) for a long time. She reveals her alias in the voice mail and next to her door bell. The neighborhood is quite and in the safer area of the Rogers Park. Because the general information on TER can be accessed by everybody, I won't respond or share her digit. It is right there for you and not a guarded secret.

    She is a very nice girl, but her personality is very eccentric. If you can read TER reviews, all are true and described her personality very accurately. To be honest, if you are not laid back, patient, and open-minded enough, you are likely to be annoyed and turned off. Hence I said, you need to read her mood when you are in her place with her. She is who she is, just know that, it's also because of the eccentricity, she is more than happy to lick your asshole like her favorite ice cream than open her legs to let you fuck her. There are a few reports saying FS is possible, but from what I can tell, it's very YMMV and it's not about money. Don't push or things will get a lot weirder if she is annoyed or raises her temper.

    Her massage set up is really NOT good. It's a mat on the floor, she puts a cushion under your belly and groin to lift your ass up (it is not as nice as those you can find in sex toy store). She put towel on it, but if you care deeply about sanitization, consider yourself warned. I don't see it as problem because I believe it is clean for what I can observe. Also, laying on a 3-in mat (on the floor essentially) is definitely not as comfy as on a regular bed or massage table.

    She uses lots, I means lots, of coconut oil for the massage, she is thin with B+ cups, when she rubs your back with her body, it is as fun as nuru. But I have to take a long shower at her place to wash most away. She was happy to shower with me and I had a great chat with her then.

    She also would let you know that, she is very likely to be late for the appointment. She is very okay if you are late for 30 minutes for your 2 pm appointment, as long as you let her know in advance. Yes, she seems to consider 2:30 start is pretty normal for a 2 pm meeting. To her defense, she probably just start to prepare herself just a short period of time before 2 pm. And that's how she lives her life. Don't challenge or lecture her, don't even let her feel that you may have your contempt about not being punctual.

    She has enough business to get by, and she doesn't have a good business mindset to do and plan things effectively. I don't think she keeps good tracks of booking inquiries and rarely responds in a prompt fashion. You just have to be persistent and not get caught up on why she missed your requests. It took me a while to get her response and it was likely my text popped up at the right moment. She also hates disrespectful language and attitude and can sniff thing out. She is likely to spend 15-20 minutes to decide what music she wants to play for the session, while she is also trying to do small talk. This is just her, for better or worse.

    As far as appearance goes, the images in the archive is accurate, and old. She is not hot, but not ugly either, probably in her 30's, typical GND who may not catch your eyes when she walks by you. I think she priced herself very fair, all things considered, even with the amount of work I need to do. This is the tradeoff between spending $130 and droping $300 or $400.

    I had a little miscommunication with her when I try to get to her apartment and she almost refused to meet me. Obviously I resolved the issue and calmed her down and got a pleasant experience and I learned quite a few things about her during all the chat. But it was not easy. You cannot get any more YMMV with Stacy. The pay out is definitely there but it requires some work and manner at your end. She really has some strength to apply good pressure on pain spots, which she can detect too. And then the happy side of the things will flow in naturally at her pace.

    If you are interested in Lingam massage, 2 kgpresents https://www.2kgpresents.com lists it as service item. $350/ hr and you can have just the massage or GFE (or mix) with your provider at 2 kg. They have good reputation.

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