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  1. #4659

    Where did you see the ad of this girl

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIommi111  [View Original Post]
    $$h. Older fat no english.

    Tel:312-XXX-5699. She will also want to call you. She will call from 773-XXX-9368.

    Guess I need to grow a pair and tell them to get out when I know its not them.

    Play safe fellow mongers.
    From BP, EROS, or what? Independent? Agency? Please provide enough details to be useful. Well, yes, I did locate the post on BP based on the name and partial number you provided.

    Now, here is the thing, you do need to RTFF if you are new to the hobby. If you are not newbie and just new to the site, then you don't have (at least my) sympathy about being baited and switched.

    This is like Whxxxxing 101, BP posts of Asian apartments and massage parlors almost always steal or borrow stock photos or images of random girls online. They are just too good to be true. You are the reason leading youslef to believe that a girl that hot will let you stick it to her for just $200 per hour in a rundown apartment.

    Next time, please be mindful of the discussion thread you post. It would be most helpful if you post about BP girls under the BP report section, so those frequent BP for thrills can appreciate your intel.

  2. #4658

    Well put

    Quote Originally Posted by FirstTimer7  [View Original Post]
    There was a discussion about this previously where some sites aren't https so you should be careful with those especially the sites with a bunch of popups. You never know when the site is compromised and your emails are forwarding to someone else. Going directly to email seems like a better idea for me but I sometimes feel skeptical when I see someone still using yahoo.
    Easily hijacked from whoever so if you respond to someone with a yahoo or really most of these widely used free emails you are indeed at risk of being found out. Now by who? Don't know except once you are in the loop you are leaving yourself open imo. I had a yahoo account hacked, however fortunatelly I was not communicating w / any particular girl. They just hack for whatever reasoning guess just too see if they can. This happened with a yahoo as well as an sbcglobal I still keep a yahoo and gmail under a fake name and have a google voice number as well under the same name. Guess what it comes down to is letting the big head do the thinking. We usually don't and I am at the top of that list! Also I agree that visiting questionable sites and logging in as well as registering with those accounts with that yahoo or other email accounts keep one at risk.

  3. #4657

    Beware of Judy Bait and Switch

    $$h. Older fat no english.

    Tel:312-XXX-5699. She will also want to call you. She will call from 773-XXX-9368.

    Guess I need to grow a pair and tell them to get out when I know its not them.

    Play safe fellow mongers.

  4. #4656

    Jade at CEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas23  [View Original Post]
    Any young asian providers around who actually speak SOME English? Josie Qu isn't really my type, Kuurmi Gray replied but said "sorry, we're not a good match" (Saw Gia who was decent (400 hr is a little steep for me but I was desperate), but she absolutely pestered me about giving her a 10/10 and even texted and called randomly when I didn't leave a review. Absolutely no respect for discretion. Got annoyed when I asked if I'd get something in return if she wants a review so badly. Any others??
    I have not seen her myself, but her Ter reviews state she is asian-american and speaks English. And she is young.

    http://www.chicagoelitecompanions.com/jade.html

  5. #4655

    Becki / Becca

    Quote Originally Posted by ReadyFreddie  [View Original Post]
    I've always enjoyed myself with her. I generally treat her well and have nice conversations, so I never got any rude treatment from her. The first time she was a bit distant, maybe. It has been a while for me, but last few times I never felt rushed. I think she is truly YMMV because she has had some bad reviews. She is reasonably priced and good in a pinch. In fact, I wish I thought of her today because I went somewhere else and was disappointed.
    Has anyone visited her lately? I haven't see her post anywhere. Wondering if she retired?

  6. #4654

    Asians

    Any young asian providers around who actually speak SOME English? Josie Qu isn't really my type, Kuurmi Gray replied but said "sorry, we're not a good match" (Saw Gia who was decent (400 hr is a little steep for me but I was desperate), but she absolutely pestered me about giving her a 10/10 and even texted and called randomly when I didn't leave a review. Absolutely no respect for discretion. Got annoyed when I asked if I'd get something in return if she wants a review so badly. Any others??

  7. #4653

    Forms Might Not Be Secure

    Quote Originally Posted by DynoJr  [View Original Post]
    If you're willing to give info via email, an online form is no different. Basically the info you provide shows up to the admin via an email anyway. The form just makes sure you provide them with the necessary info. If you're unwilling to provide certain things, just fill in gibberish or a 888 area code phone number. Some forms reject if they're not in the proper format, but there are ways around that. Either way, they're getting your info stored somewhere.
    There was a discussion about this previously where some sites aren't https so you should be careful with those especially the sites with a bunch of popups. You never know when the site is compromised and your emails are forwarding to someone else. Going directly to email seems like a better idea for me but I sometimes feel skeptical when I see someone still using yahoo.

  8. #4652

    Online forms

    Quote Originally Posted by ReadyFreddie  [View Original Post]
    After reading through these posts, and checking out the models of various agencies, I think I want to get approved with EEC and start seeing those young hotties who are fresh in the business. Can anyone tell me the general location of their incall? PM is fine. I do not want to go all the way to O'Hare area, and am hoping it is closer to the loop or west.

    Also, can I get approved at EEC without filing out the form on-line (can I call or email the information)? I don't know, but I have an aversion to putting personal information on a form on their website.

    Can you help a fellow monger out? I would like to know the answers to these questions before I start giving personal information out.

    I have frequented youwannaseeme, and also Elite-Secrets. However, the Elite-Secrets girls work out by O'Hare, which is a bit too far for me, so I need something more convenient. (I know they sometimes have a Wicker Park location but they don't seem to use it as much). Youwannaseeme is fairly convenient, but I am looking for more consistent GFE and better quality over all.
    If you're willing to give info via email, an online form is no different. Basically the info you provide shows up to the admin via an email anyway. The form just makes sure you provide them with the necessary info. If you're unwilling to provide certain things, just fill in gibberish or a 888 area code phone number. Some forms reject if they're not in the proper format, but there are ways around that. Either way, they're getting your info stored somewhere.

  9. #4651

    Where is EEC incall location, and other questions

    After reading through these posts, and checking out the models of various agencies, I think I want to get approved with EEC and start seeing those young hotties who are fresh in the business. Can anyone tell me the general location of their incall? PM is fine. I do not want to go all the way to O'Hare area, and am hoping it is closer to the loop or west.

    Also, can I get approved at EEC without filing out the form on-line (can I call or email the information)? I don't know, but I have an aversion to putting personal information on a form on their website.

    Can you help a fellow monger out? I would like to know the answers to these questions before I start giving personal information out.

    I have frequented youwannaseeme, and also Elite-Secrets. However, the Elite-Secrets girls work out by O'Hare, which is a bit too far for me, so I need something more convenient. (I know they sometimes have a Wicker Park location but they don't seem to use it as much). Youwannaseeme is fairly convenient, but I am looking for more consistent GFE and better quality over all.

  10. #4650
    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyT  [View Original Post]
    I have never used either of these agencies before although I have been curious about trying them both out.
    I've had great experiences with CEC and XO, would recommend both. Surprised to hear you had trouble contacting CEC, they always reply to my emails within a few minutes.

  11. #4649

    CEC and XO Companions

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolPatrick  [View Original Post]
    I believe EEC is still run by the same group of folks, which explains the consistency of their business practice. Angelis have many experienced girls who switch from other agencies or from BP or independent operations. CEC also got mostly new faces, but they charge $100 $200 more. In hindsight, CEC do have lower turn over of its bullpen. I've been happy with both CEC and EEC, and I rooted for EEC' because competition is healthy.

    XOCampanion is really something else at the whole different level, clients can find out COF / CIM / GREEK / COUPLE availability like a breeze in the format of upcharge menu. But hey, they also almost always offer some discount for reviews or just promoting new girls, which can offset the upcharge mostly. I do wish CEC and EEC can be like that. Like anyone willing to spend more than $200/ hr on the girl, the reason is we want 'sure thing' on appearance and service.

    MoneyT, appreciate your sharing.
    I have never used either of these agencies before although I have been curious about trying them both out. I have tried to reach out to CEC several times, but they never respond. I just simply gave up. XO Companions. Well I just haven't pulled the trigger yet.

    I guess I'm a creature of habit. In the past several years, for me it's only been EEC, Youwannaseeme, and LT. I tried Chicago Cover Girls once. Really good experience but their incall location is too far for me so I haven't been back.

    XO Companions seem to have some very hot females on their roster. I think I may have to take the plunge.

  12. #4648
    This is fantastic and sounds like they take care of the customers. Even though the business model is very different AMPs could learn from this how to better take care of customers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riina  [View Original Post]
    EEC sent out a heart to heart email this morning to its customers:

    Hello friends,

    Recently several of our clients had a bad experience with one of our new models. We are very sorry this happened. We do our best to provide you with new talent that has never worked in the industry. That is our niche. Some models try it and do not like this industry, but for the most part they do not have the professionalism that we require. Since our hiring age is typically 18 to 23 these models are immature and like all millennials a pai'n to work with. They often are late to appointments or do not have their ringer on, sometimes they simply don't want to even answer our texts. Any business that works with millennials has similar pai'ns. We are like the ARMY and run a tight outfit. If we have models that are being irresponsible we warn them and then we fire them very quickly. We try to sav'e our clients from dealing with the drama. So we wee'd out the problems very quickly. Hence the short amount of time models stay with our agenc'y.

    90% of them were fired if you do not see them on our website any longer. That is how we handle quality control. Few meet our high standards. We give them a chanc'e and if they are not fit for our agenc'y they are fired.

    Our models are all new to this industry and that is how we are able to give you that fresh raw experience that is like no other. If you want to have appointments with worn out strippers/escorts/hustlers that are "pros" then we are not for you.

    Most of the Chicago agencies hir'e the leftovers that we toss out for unprofessional behavior. The funny thing is once they have been fired they usually behave well in their 2nd or 3rd agenc'y. Sometimes it takes losing their jo'b to serve as a wake up call and only then do they understand that their actions have financial consequences. So they stay with those agencies a bit longer until that agenc'y also fires them, or they quit in search for greener pastures. This is why models who come from EEC are prized by the local competiti'on. They have been taught how to be professional and punctual and usually end up being better workers once they have been scolded and fired once already.

    Our website is always updated and models that no longer work for us are removed. Sometimes even before they realize they have been fired. Many clients and hobbyists can't understand our high turn over rate. Also clients think models stay with other agencies for a long time but in reality they don't. Angeli's Angels (KellyCooperGFE) for example always tries to poach our models offering promises they can't deliver. They have many girls listed on their website but only have 3 or 4 that really work there anymore.



    75% of Angeli's Angels are our former workers. Girls that have quit working for AA's complain that their photos are not being removed from AA's website once they quit, which is true. You can find our former workers at the most popular Chicago agencies. Always listed at higher prices. CEC for example is owned by a former client of ours who teamed up with a former office manager Andra. When they first opened 90% of their models were our former staff. They were and are still listed at higher prices. Most of those ladies listed on the website do not work them anymore as well.



    We offer the lo'west prices in Chicago for the highest quality models we can find. Nobody delivers this type of value. Yes you can find amazing touring models that are Russian but they are not new and quite frankly well seasoned pros. That is not what we want to offer. We think its great that models come and go and new introductions can be made. With this business model we do run into models that can't meet our standards. When we hear that a client has a bad experience then we always try to make it right. Either by offering a discount or credit and sometimes even a full refund!



    Reviews. Don't believe the hype. The owner of Angeli's Angels has over 10 TER accounts and writes fake reviews hyping up his girls. When we first opened EEC the owner reached out to us pretending to be Kelly Cooper and wanted to borrow our models and gives us a cut. He said TER clients are willing to pay more and he can give us a portion. He said he has over 10 TER accounts and can write excellent detailed reviews on TER where the best clients are. We declined that offer which infuriated him. The CEC owner was mentored by Andra and the owner of Angeli's Angels. They are in close cooperation. So you can see on TER that profiles who write reviews for one agenc'y often write reviews for the other. Both are hyped up. Although CEC tends to have much better looking girls then Angelis can acquire. Our reviews are few and far between. That is because we don't write our own reviews. TER won't do anything about it.



    We will continue to work hard providing the best new talent we can find for our clients. If you ever have any issues please bring it to our attention. We will deal with it immediately.

    Thank you,

  13. #4647
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1658

    Eec

    EEC sent out a heart to heart email this morning to its customers:

    Hello friends,

    Recently several of our clients had a bad experience with one of our new models. We are very sorry this happened. We do our best to provide you with new talent that has never worked in the industry. That is our niche. Some models try it and do not like this industry, but for the most part they do not have the professionalism that we require. Since our hiring age is typically 18 to 23 these models are immature and like all millennials a pai'n to work with. They often are late to appointments or do not have their ringer on, sometimes they simply don't want to even answer our texts. Any business that works with millennials has similar pai'ns. We are like the ARMY and run a tight outfit. If we have models that are being irresponsible we warn them and then we fire them very quickly. We try to sav'e our clients from dealing with the drama. So we wee'd out the problems very quickly. Hence the short amount of time models stay with our agenc'y.

    90% of them were fired if you do not see them on our website any longer. That is how we handle quality control. Few meet our high standards. We give them a chanc'e and if they are not fit for our agenc'y they are fired.

    Our models are all new to this industry and that is how we are able to give you that fresh raw experience that is like no other. If you want to have appointments with worn out strippers/escorts/hustlers that are "pros" then we are not for you.

    Most of the Chicago agencies hir'e the leftovers that we toss out for unprofessional behavior. The funny thing is once they have been fired they usually behave well in their 2nd or 3rd agenc'y. Sometimes it takes losing their jo'b to serve as a wake up call and only then do they understand that their actions have financial consequences. So they stay with those agencies a bit longer until that agenc'y also fires them, or they quit in search for greener pastures. This is why models who come from EEC are prized by the local competiti'on. They have been taught how to be professional and punctual and usually end up being better workers once they have been scolded and fired once already.

    Our website is always updated and models that no longer work for us are removed. Sometimes even before they realize they have been fired. Many clients and hobbyists can't understand our high turn over rate. Also clients think models stay with other agencies for a long time but in reality they don't. Angeli's Angels (KellyCooperGFE) for example always tries to poach our models offering promises they can't deliver. They have many girls listed on their website but only have 3 or 4 that really work there anymore.



    75% of Angeli's Angels are our former workers. Girls that have quit working for AA's complain that their photos are not being removed from AA's website once they quit, which is true. You can find our former workers at the most popular Chicago agencies. Always listed at higher prices. CEC for example is owned by a former client of ours who teamed up with a former office manager Andra. When they first opened 90% of their models were our former staff. They were and are still listed at higher prices. Most of those ladies listed on the website do not work them anymore as well.



    We offer the lo'west prices in Chicago for the highest quality models we can find. Nobody delivers this type of value. Yes you can find amazing touring models that are Russian but they are not new and quite frankly well seasoned pros. That is not what we want to offer. We think its great that models come and go and new introductions can be made. With this business model we do run into models that can't meet our standards. When we hear that a client has a bad experience then we always try to make it right. Either by offering a discount or credit and sometimes even a full refund!



    Reviews. Don't believe the hype. The owner of Angeli's Angels has over 10 TER accounts and writes fake reviews hyping up his girls. When we first opened EEC the owner reached out to us pretending to be Kelly Cooper and wanted to borrow our models and gives us a cut. He said TER clients are willing to pay more and he can give us a portion. He said he has over 10 TER accounts and can write excellent detailed reviews on TER where the best clients are. We declined that offer which infuriated him. The CEC owner was mentored by Andra and the owner of Angeli's Angels. They are in close cooperation. So you can see on TER that profiles who write reviews for one agenc'y often write reviews for the other. Both are hyped up. Although CEC tends to have much better looking girls then Angelis can acquire. Our reviews are few and far between. That is because we don't write our own reviews. TER won't do anything about it.



    We will continue to work hard providing the best new talent we can find for our clients. If you ever have any issues please bring it to our attention. We will deal with it immediately.

    Thank you,

  14. #4646
    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyT  [View Original Post]
    Well that effort on their part has me sold again as to why they have been my go to agency. This is the fourth time in my hobbying career where an agency (or indie) has tried to make things right for a previous mishap. And this is an action that I have the utmost respect for. As a client, this shows me that you truly value my business and shows that you respect that it's clients like myself that help keep you in business. With that being said, I felt obligated to post this after yesterday's review. In fact, I already have my choice as to who I'd like to use my credit with. I tip my hat to EEC once again for showing that they truly care about their clients. As they explained, their #1 perk of hiring fresh new girls can have it's ups and downs. Unfortunately, I experienced one of the downs the other night, but yesterday they made everything right. This is why EEC will remain one of my ATF agencies in the area. I will continue to give them my stamp of approval. Kudos to you EEC.

    Now I am aware that a few of my fellow hobbyists reached out to them asking about my review. For you guys, thank you for following me and my posts. Makes me feel good to know that you guys appreciate and respect my reviews. One thing I will say is this. I truly value this board and community. I have had the pleasure of meeting some of you (had a few GBs and a few 3 somes that were very memorable). As a fellow hobbyist, I will continue to share my thoughts and experiences with you guys. This is what makes our community great. The ability to share our experiences so that we can all safely enjoy the hobby that we love.

    Stay safe everyone and happy mongering!
    I believe EEC is still run by the same group of folks, which explains the consistency of their business practice. Angelis have many experienced girls who switch from other agencies or from BP or independent operations. CEC also got mostly new faces, but they charge $100 $200 more. In hindsight, CEC do have lower turn over of its bullpen. I've been happy with both CEC and EEC, and I rooted for EEC' because competition is healthy.

    XOCampanion is really something else at the whole different level, clients can find out COF / CIM / GREEK / COUPLE availability like a breeze in the format of upcharge menu. But hey, they also almost always offer some discount for reviews or just promoting new girls, which can offset the upcharge mostly. I do wish CEC and EEC can be like that. Like anyone willing to spend more than $200/ hr on the girl, the reason is we want 'sure thing' on appearance and service.

    MoneyT, appreciate your sharing.

  15. #4645

    EEC Update

    Quote Originally Posted by TallKidd  [View Original Post]
    The big selling point with this agency is that they get lots of "new talent". In reality, these girls have no history or reviews, so you never know what you are going to get. Plus, they only stay in town one day, so there is no incentive for them to deliver good service. The whole operation sounds like a scam. If a girl lives in the area, she will probably want to build a client base so she has incentive tol deliver good service. XO girls travel, but you can search their reviews, even if it was in another city. I'm sure there are some good ones at EEC, but I don't have the cash to burn spinning the roulette wheel in hopes of getting a good one, I want a sure thing.
    Some of you may know that I was one of their original clients, going back to when they would host at an apartment in Uptown. In the past few years, even as they have gone through their changes (ownership, shutting down and reopening, 226, etc), I have met some real gems with their agency. In fact, their appeal to me has always been the fresh new faces. In my first year of being a client of theirs, I once met a girl that was visiting for out east (Ohio I believe). Well she failed to alert the agency that her monthly flow had appeared. In fact, she didn't tell me until we were well into the session. A complete and total bummer. As I was walking out of the hotel after the session, the owner reached out to me. He asked if everything was okay; I explained exactly what happened. Now usually when I get burned, that's it. I'm never coming back. Well the previous owner made it right immediately. He told me that he was sorry and as a courtesy, my next session with any girl would be free. That had me sold and they quickly became my favorite and go to agency (even over LT and I have been going there since 2012).

    I haven't visited them as much in the past 6 months, mainly because of the many changes and wanting to let the "dust" settle first. The other night was my first appointment in a long time. Needless to say, when I didn't get as quick of a response as to how they would make things up to me I figured this was an indication that new management didn't have the same regards for their clients. Well once again, they have proven me wrong. Several hours after I posted my review of Sandra, the handler reached out to me and was very apologetic. She informed me that I would receive a 250 credit towards my next appointment. She promised that what happened the other night would never happen again and they made it a point to say that they value me as a client. This was a complete shocker. Let me tell you, when I woke up yesterday, I was really upset. All I kept thinking was how I was out my 300 (250 donation plus travel expenses for Uber). Any of you who have mongered as long as I have I'm sure you've had that terrible feeling of being burned and out of hard earned money. That's the feeling I had when I woke up.

    Well that effort on their part has me sold again as to why they have been my go to agency. This is the fourth time in my hobbying career where an agency (or indie) has tried to make things right for a previous mishap. And this is an action that I have the utmost respect for. As a client, this shows me that you truly value my business and shows that you respect that it's clients like myself that help keep you in business. With that being said, I felt obligated to post this after yesterday's review. In fact, I already have my choice as to who I'd like to use my credit with. I tip my hat to EEC once again for showing that they truly care about their clients. As they explained, their #1 perk of hiring fresh new girls can have it's ups and downs. Unfortunately, I experienced one of the downs the other night, but yesterday they made everything right. This is why EEC will remain one of my ATF agencies in the area. I will continue to give them my stamp of approval. Kudos to you EEC.

    Now I am aware that a few of my fellow hobbyists reached out to them asking about my review. For you guys, thank you for following me and my posts. Makes me feel good to know that you guys appreciate and respect my reviews. One thing I will say is this. I truly value this board and community. I have had the pleasure of meeting some of you (had a few GBs and a few 3 somes that were very memorable). As a fellow hobbyist, I will continue to share my thoughts and experiences with you guys. This is what makes our community great. The ability to share our experiences so that we can all safely enjoy the hobby that we love.

    Stay safe everyone and happy mongering!

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