The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

**PghGuy2005** · 10-28-17 11:11

Originally Posted by JMonger [View Original Post]

I have had pretty good luck with AM. I'm am currently in my fourth relationship. A couple of which have gone on for multiple years.
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To my surprise, while the women I have talked to admit to being inundated with emails, they indicate the vast majority are not attractive (for instance, being overtly sexual or sending provocative pictures seems to be an instant fail for the women I have talked with). I have been told that while we have a lot of competition, the competition isn't very competitive when it comes to identifying what most women are looking for.
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The one negative is the lead time. I'm finding it takes a while, and some false starts, to get a relationship started (but then, at my age, I'm not that hot a property). YMMV.

JM,

I really appreciate you taking the time in composing this very helpful post. Any ideas on profiles / messages that will pique women's interest?!

**PghGuy2005** · 10-28-17 10:44

Originally Posted by Raltime [View Original Post]

I have been around the block too many times, sorry but what is AM?

A and M are the first letters of popular female names. A what is left after something burns and M the fourth president

**JMonger** · 10-28-17 05:03

I have had pretty good luck with AM. I'm am currently in my fourth relationship. A couple of which have gone on for multiple years.

What I like is that I get a true GFE experience, we text, we phone, we occasionally meet for lunch, and then every week or so get away for a 3-4 hour session that includes GFE, DATY, MSOG, and anything else we feel like trying (It is the only way I will go bareback). All for the cost of a hotel room (though, my current lady often has her house available, so it is the cost of a trip across town).

All this is under the radar as we both have families. This means it is understood when I'm not available, I don't have to buy gifts, etc. There are a lot of advantages to the situation.

I understand that there used to be a large number of fake profiles, though I that seems to have been reduced since they were caught at it. When I get on, I recognize many of the same profiles I saw a year ago. In a couple cases, ones that I have met. Not sure if it is because I filter to the ones that are active, or because I prefer more mature women, but it is rare that I get a reply that doesn't lead to details that someone in the area would have to write. Sadly, it is even rarer that I get a reply at all. But that is part of the deal.

To my surprise, while the women I have talked to admit to being inundated with emails, they indicate the vast majority are not attractive (for instance, being overtly sexual or sending provocative pictures seems to be an instant fail for the women I have talked with). I have been told that while we have a lot of competition, the competition isn't very competitive when it comes to identifying what most women are looking for.

Though I budgeted about the cost of an low-end incall ($150), I normally run about $20-50 in AM costs and a few hours composing text (but most content is recyclable. I send the same material largely unchanged to everyone). It usually includes a lunch meeting or two to make sure we are compatible, then the fun starts.

The one negative is the lead time. I'm finding it takes a while, and some false starts, to get a relationship started (but then, at my age, I'm not that hot a property). YMMV.

Originally Posted by PghGuy2005 [View Original Post]

How has AM in the Triangle area been for you?

**Raltime** · 10-27-17 20:41

https://seekingarrangement.com/membe...6-9c5f8b2287bb

**Raltime** · 10-27-17 20:38

Originally Posted by SailorSam [View Original Post]

It has been a while since I was on there, but I had some great times.

You have to learn to spot the bots, and it helps a lot if you like fat, middle-aged women.

I had one woman from AM turn into an ongoing affair that lasted nearly two years. I got careless and my wife found out. If not for that, I'd still be banging her weekly.

I have been around the block too many times, sorry but what is AM?

**SailorSam** · 10-27-17 13:27

Originally Posted by PghGuy2005 [View Original Post]

How has AM in the Triangle area been for you?

It has been a while since I was on there, but I had some great times.

You have to learn to spot the bots, and it helps a lot if you like fat, middle-aged women.

I had one woman from AM turn into an ongoing affair that lasted nearly two years. I got careless and my wife found out. If not for that, I'd still be banging her weekly.

**PghGuy2005** · 10-27-17 12:47

Originally Posted by JMonger [View Original Post]

...I ended up back at AM, where the women are often less nubile (though often more interesting) - and are just as concerned with keeping everything on the QT as I am. That I don't have to 'buy' them, makes the relationship just that more comfortable for me; not to mention economical.

How has AM in the Triangle area been for you?

**Raltime** · 10-25-17 21:16

Avoid this one, waste of time. Not from Durham and wants money via PayPal first. Most likely some dude. LOL.

https://seekingarrangement.com/messa...?mailbox=inbox

Lhillxoxo.

**Gibbs70** · 10-25-17 11:38

Can't believe I never saw this blog before now. * Been in and out of the SB game for a year. * A few short terms,* but back in the market after my baby gor overwhelmed at UNC. *.

Some of my experiences over the last few months, and wondering if anyone else has experience with Hotlibrarian20 (think she was sexylibrarian a month ago). * I always check government I'd due to age, but anyone have experience with this one?*.

Lickmylillypad from Ral. * Asked for a lot, settled for smaller amt. * Met at room amd had a good time. * Just in it for the money and not what I was looking for. * Good time though. * Currently not actively logging in, but she'll be back.

Babylove95 from WS. * Met me halfway in Greensboro* at a room. * Very petite,* and she sure can sing. * One time, but will repeat as we can align schedules. * Just too far for regular.

Kitttkatchell from Goldsboro. ** Met at room and had a good time. * Not as classy as the first two. * One time meet, but may reoeat when in her area.

Summertimesea from Ral. * Not petite like the first several, but not BBW. * Met at room, but she is looking for regular as her current SD "got too busy at work". * Good time and loves K9. * I just like them petite. ** She can host once comfortable.

Stoneykitty from Ral. Warning! Wanted $. 4 for M&G. * After 2 months, willing to meet for much less. * Confirmed a few hours before, but sat in lot for 15 minutes with no word, so left. * 25 minutes after meet she calls and text. * When finds out I left and nit comimg back,* potty mouth with a bunch of idle threats. * Stay far away.

Callmeadreamer from Ral. * Current profile inactive, but beware. * She was off before and came back after awhile. * Wanted me ti get a room, but I meet in lot before getting one. * She confirmed hiur before, then no show, no more text, and disabled her profile. * Big time waster.

Stay Safe,

Gibbs.

**Tomas247** · 10-21-17 00:53

Welp, after 18 months of free SA, paying the $80 for only a single month, they finally fixed the bug.

I rejoined LOL.

**ArmyNiceGuy** · 10-19-17 01:35

Originally Posted by JohnHandCock [View Original Post]

If I'm not mistaken only paid membership can hide the viewing, favoring info and not be seen. I also think those options only work while your a paid member. If membership lapses then the ones you favored will see you have favored them. If your not a paid member the site is pretty useless.

Well my lurking profile doesn't even have a user name yet, so it's still useful to separate my lurking from my real profile. I only use it for lurking and taking paper notes on pots that I may contact later if and when I pull the trigger on getting a paid membership on my real profile. Also I did try to favorite a pot from my lurking profile and got an error message stating others can't "discover" me, until I complete the basic information on it.

**John HandCock** · 10-18-17 13:54

Originally Posted by ArmyNiceGuy [View Original Post]

Hey gents, so I've kinda thought about taking a dip into the sugar bowl for about 6 months now and for the last few weeks I've been doing some serious research on it. I've read this forum from post 1 and am now working on the Richmond forum. I find the idea of being able to take a smoking hot coed out for a night on the town and an overnight of GFE for about the same cost (allowance, not counting entertainment cost) of an hour with an agency, or even a high-end BP girl, to be quite exciting.

Any how I kinda stumbled on this trick I thought I would share. I've had my SA profile for a couple months (unpaid) and only just recently completed it, only then did the hits, messages, and favorites start coming in. Once completed though, pots could see if I was checking them out too. With all the new girls showing up and all the ones I'm interested in, I can barely keep them all straight, and I don't want to favorite a bunch of them since I'm not quite ready to pull the trigger on the paid membership. In order to surf and lurk stealthily I made a second profile that I have left incomplete. Now I can check out and compare pots as much as I want without them ever getting a hit.

Hope this helps, and thanks to all you brothers for opening my eyes to the sugar bowl.

If I'm not mistaken only paid membership can hide the viewing, favoring info and not be seen. I also think those options only work while your a paid member. If membership lapses then the ones you favored will see you have favored them. If your not a paid member the site is pretty useless.

**ArmyNiceGuy** · 10-18-17 12:57

Hey gents, so I've kinda thought about taking a dip into the sugar bowl for about 6 months now and for the last few weeks I've been doing some serious research on it. I've read this forum from post 1 and am now working on the Richmond forum. I find the idea of being able to take a smoking hot coed out for a night on the town and an overnight of GFE for about the same cost (allowance, not counting entertainment cost) of an hour with an agency, or even a high-end BP girl, to be quite exciting.

Any how I kinda stumbled on this trick I thought I would share. I've had my SA profile for a couple months (unpaid) and only just recently completed it, only then did the hits, messages, and favorites start coming in. Once completed though, pots could see if I was checking them out too. With all the new girls showing up and all the ones I'm interested in, I can barely keep them all straight, and I don't want to favorite a bunch of them since I'm not quite ready to pull the trigger on the paid membership. In order to surf and lurk stealthily I made a second profile that I have left incomplete. Now I can check out and compare pots as much as I want without them ever getting a hit.

Hope this helps, and thanks to all you brothers for opening my eyes to the sugar bowl.

**Robert1744** · 10-18-17 09:17

I am going to be very upfront about my marital status. But I am going to play MUCH tighter with my identity. If I practice in totally different city, use Google voice, no last names, etc, I should be able to have some more fun.

Here's a tip on protecting your identity. A couple of years ago, I met a gal on Craigslist. I forgot that the pic I sent her was also on my LinkedIn, so she was able to do an image search and scope me out before I divulged anything. It was fine, she wasn't trying to scam me and was just being curious. But definitely don't ever send anything that stands even a remote chance of pinging back in a web search.

By the same token, I've found that most girls on SA will not want to give any information for the first couple of rounds. But 9 times out of 10, once you get the digits, it's to their real phone tied to their social media. I have gone on M&Gs several times with a wealth of information on the girl I was meeting, including intel about their likes and dislikes that I'd drop to my advantage.

**John HandCock** · 10-17-17 12:48

Originally Posted by Robert1744 [View Original Post]

Hey ya'll -.

I have dabbled in the SD world with both good and bad experiences, but I've been out of it for about a year and thinking of jumping back in.

As I do that, I am also perusing Secret Benefits in addition to SA. Here's the thing, my SB profile is literally empty. There's no pic, no blurb, nothing. And yet, I get a bunch of messages from various young women initiating contact. Can I surmise that if the SB women are initiating things with nothing to go on, they're a little more experienced in the game, perhaps even semi-pro? When my SA profile was empty at first, this never happened over there. I was curious if there were any general differences between the women on the two sites.

Also, since I last dabbled in the arrangement world, I got married. It's great, but I just can't stop that young pussy. Do any other of you married guys find that listing your marital status hurts your chances or decreases the opportunities? If I do proceed with another arrangement, I am going to pursue it in another town, as I firmly believe you don't shit where you eat.

Any thoughts on doing this stuff while married (apart from judgement and psychoanalysis) would be welcomed. Thanks!

Google the review s on SB. Post your status and the girls who don't see married men won't contact you. Most don't really care if the arrangement is good.