Safe Sex Information and Advice

[Lou Jack]

I am not saying that I would engage in unprotected sex with a massage girl if she initiated it and assured me she was safe, but, what do you guys think?

Some of these massage girls seem cleaner than the girls who get picked up for one night stands?

A lot of my friends sleep with tons of women and never wear condoms. I know that it only takes one time to get a bad STD but if the girl isn't a drug user and is clean?

Just curious.

Thank you.

Barry.

DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT think about doing that. When it comes to paying for sex, you're pretty much playing a game of Russian roulette. Most of these girls have something or are going to catch something at some point.

It will never be worth the risk. I can tell by the question itself you're somewhat young, but back in the 90's there were HIV prevention ads that said stuff about not going by "she LOOKS clean. ".

[Member #6999]

I am not saying that I would engage in unprotected sex with a massage girl if she initiated it and assured me she was safe, but, what do you guys think?

Some of these massage girls seem cleaner than the girls who get picked up for one night stands?

A lot of my friends sleep with tons of women and never wear condoms. I know that it only takes one time to get a bad STD but if the girl isn't a drug user and is clean?

Just curious.

Thank you.

Barry.

Don't be a fool. And never believe a girl that tells you ONLY YOU.

[Barry101]

I am not saying that I would engage in unprotected sex with a massage girl if she initiated it and assured me she was safe, but, what do you guys think?

Some of these massage girls seem cleaner than the girls who get picked up for one night stands?

A lot of my friends sleep with tons of women and never wear condoms. I know that it only takes one time to get a bad STD but if the girl isn't a drug user and is clean?

Just curious.

Thank you.

Barry.

[Cephlapod Love]

The problem is, it feels SOOOO good to a man. If you only knew. Sex BB is like sex, Sex with a cover is not like sex, but an effort or more like work to try to feel good and try to be pleased with it and THAT is part of why BBBJ is a great alternative for guys. Quite safer for both and an extremely great feeling if done right, vs. A layer of latex and the issues that causes.

I have found that the THICKNESS of a condom, the material it is constructed of and the size make a HUGE difference in the way covered sex feels! Oh sure, I use to be unknowledgeable about this and would just grab whatever condom was cheapest or whatever the girl provided. And yeah, as OP pointed out it was often an unpleasant experience playing with the wrong condom.

But who ever heard of thicknesses of condoms? Can't say I had ever heard it discussed much. Then one day I found a website that sold condoms and had tons of educational material. I discovered that the standard condom was 0. 070 mm thick. OK cool, whatever that means. But then I discovered that there were "thin" condoms that are 0. 055 MM thick and 0. 045 mm thick! I bought a bunch of these and YES! They made a difference!

In fact, recently had an experience with a FWB. I visited her twice in a week. First time I used the "thin" ones (0. 045 mm) and had an OK date. The second time, I brought a thin one (0. 045 mm) and a Magnum (0. 080 mm). Tossed the covers on the night stand and when it came time she suited me up. It was a terrible date as the sensation wasn't there and I didn't pop. As I left and picked up the unused condom I noted that it was the Magnum that had been used. So it was that extra thickness that lead to the lack of feeling for me. (she had a great time).

You can see the thicknesses of standard condoms here:

http://kimono-condoms.com/condom-size

Look at the ribbed condoms. Some are as thick as 0. 121 mm! WOW. Pleasure for her, a HUGE buffer for the dude!

But the story doesn't end there! A friend from overseas pointed out that I was living in the past and the world has evolved! The standard "thinnest" condoms out there are now 0. 020 mm thick! That is half the thickness of the "standard" Thin condoms and WAY thinner than the average, 0. 070 mm. So look for the 002 condoms as they are marketed. I think the original ones are SAGAMI ORIGINALs. These are Japanese manufactured condoms that you have to buy overseas or off of ebay as I have never seen them in USA stores nor at most USA online condom retailers. Oh and technology marches on, there are now condoms that are 0. 018 mm thick. But can anyone feel the difference between 0. 020 and 0. 18 mm? The cost of the 0. 018 mm ones are like 3 times as expensive.

Now all of that said, YMMV. Had a buddy who used "whatever" condoms and one day I gave him a bunch of the 0. 055 mm thin ones to use with a FB on a trip. He reported he couldn't tell the difference. But for me I sure CAN tell the difference! The thinner the condom the better!

Also a consideration is the material that condoms are made of. Oh sure for years there have been lamb skin condoms as it was felt that they had better heat transfer. But the standard condom is constructed with latex. Not so good for those with allergies or those who want heat transfer. So the new "world's thinnest" condoms are made of polyurethane which transfers heat much better. So material does matter.

The final comment is about the size of a condom. If one does research they will see that condoms vary in length and diameter. How this matters is if one gets a condom that fits too tight it can deaden the sensations. So remember, if one is average or larger, then the original size of a Japanese condom might be a bit snug. (apparently the average Japanese dude is smaller) They do make a larger version of the Sagami's however.

[XRay1]

I had Hpv a few years ago. The easiest way to check your self. Is to spray Vinegar all over your junk and balls. Warts turn white when exposed to vinegar. (takes a few minutes to turn white).

If you do, nor fret they are incredibly easy to get rid of.

Now the way I did it was use abit of oil and cover the unexposed area with patrolium jelly. Now take a clove of garlic and cut a slice that fits over the region that has Hpv. Tape the garlic to it with sports tape. Change a few times a few. The wart will turn black and fall off. You will have a scab where it was. Takes about 2 weeks to heal. I spray vinegar after every incounter now. No reinfection. I also spray alittle up my urthrea (it's not bad) after every encounter.

I swear by it, started doing it a few years ago and no std's yet.

Out of well over 100+ encounteres BBFS BBBJ past year, still Clean. (I get myself checked every four months).

There must be something to it.

[LightYagami]

According to the CDC it is.

https://m.acog.org/Resources-And-Pub...MobileSet=true

The Hobby has risks. Do your own research and determine your own risk assessment.

If you think you can't get infected by oral, you are wrong. It has happened to me twice in 30 years. Is it a risk that I am willing to take, yes.

I mainly posted what I did to try to make people do the research. Too many people go on hearsay. I do not. Both times that I got chlamydia I had open discussions with my doctor. The conclusion from both discussions was oral and vaginal sex have the same risks.

Did you read this article? Because the closest statement they make to a conclusion is the exact opposite of what you are saying. Nowhere in this article do they mention what you have said.

"The role of noncoital sexual activity in the transmission of other nonviral infections, such as vulvovaginal candidiasis, bacterial vaginosis, and trichomoniasis, remains unclear (10). ".

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

It is not the same risk, BBBJ and BBFS, and I encourage everyone that has questions to do research and consult with your doctor.

According to the CDC it is.

https://m.acog.org/Resources-And-Pub...MobileSet=true

The Hobby has risks. Do your own research and determine your own risk assessment.

If you think you can't get infected by oral, you are wrong. It has happened to me twice in 30 years. Is it a risk that I am willing to take, yes.

I mainly posted what I did to try to make people do the research. Too many people go on hearsay. I do not. Both times that I got chlamydia I had open discussions with my doctor. The conclusion from both discussions was oral and vaginal sex have the same risks.

[LightYagami]

Yes it is out there. The ladies who do it are taking more risk than the men and most will say it is YMMV and at their discretion.

In many cases if the lady feels safe with you she will just proceed to doing it without asking. For those who won't, they will have the condom ready and waiting.

The question was raised as to why BBBJ and BBFS are linked in the same forum? For the educated it makes sense. BBBJ and BBFS have the same STD risk, so if you do one, then you should not be afraid of the other. Over my almost year 30 hobby life, I have gotten Chlamydia twice and in both cases it came from BBBJ, and it was from reputable, top tier ladies. I have also received the dreaded, "I think you should be tested. " phone call once. That instance proved to be negative, but it goes to show you that even if you and the lady are tested regularly, you can only claim that you are truely clean up to the next time you get a BBBJ.

The most risky act, BBANAL is never talked about. It is about the only way a man can get HIV from a woman sexually. The anus was not meant to take the stress of sex. The sphincter will tear and bleed. Blood equals risk for both parties. It is rumored that BBANAL is what made Magic Johnson HIV positive, his wife stayed clean while getting pregnant by him. Think about that a bit.

Because of the risk to the woman, BBFS should have an upcharge and should be at the lady's choice. If you are one of the ones that ask for it, then only ask once. If the answer is "No" then move on to CFS. Begging, bartering and attempted negotiation is a juvenile and unmanly thing to do.

It is not the same risk, BBBJ and BBFS, and I encourage everyone that has questions to do research and consult with your doctor.

[FarFarAway]

There is a lot of media discussion about HPV levels in the US population right now. It says that 1 in 9 of us guys have oral HPV, presumably by DATY, though in point of fact, rates are higher among men who have sex with men. Anyway, a question is what we can do about this. Young people these days are being offered vaccines for HPV, Gardasil and another brand name. They are only recommended in the US up to 26 years of age. So, if you limit your partners to young women who had the shot, you should be fine. LOL. I wondered about other countries, and found out this about Canada, in a Canadian health magazine:

* didn't even consider getting the vaccine until he contracted genital warts. He says: "I first considered the vaccine out of fear. The genital warts were a nuisance and having them frozen off over a period of months was physically uncomfortable. It was a condition and treatment that I'd never want to experience again. ".

Even though Gardasil does not protect against HPV strains already contracted, it does against others, so * went through with his vaccination. He recently received his third and final dose and says that to him, prevention is paramount. "I see myself as equally responsible for the safety and well-being of my partners," he says. "The peace of mind alone is worth the cost and hassle. ".

Despite being 30-years-old. Over the recommended maximum age of 26 for men, * experienced no problems in getting his prescription. According to Dr. * since the Gardasil vaccine has now been approved for use in women up to age 45, it makes sense to do the same for men.

So, maybe us geezers can head north of the border and get it.

[CoJones123]

What risks are reasonably possible with a hand job?

Hand job only with or without oils.

[JLZ61]

Hear, hear!

I'd say Amon can offer some direction on who to contact. For me, however, it would be who NOT to contact! LOL.

Yes it is out there. The ladies who do it are taking more risk than the men and most will say it is YMMV and at their discretion.

In many cases if the lady feels safe with you she will just proceed to doing it without asking. For those who won't, they will have the condom ready and waiting.

The question was raised as to why BBBJ and BBFS are linked in the same forum? For the educated it makes sense. BBBJ and BBFS have the same STD risk, so if you do one, then you should not be afraid of the other. Over my almost year 30 hobby life, I have gotten Chlamydia twice and in both cases it came from BBBJ, and it was from reputable, top tier ladies. I have also received the dreaded, "I think you should be tested. " phone call once. That instance proved to be negative, but it goes to show you that even if you and the lady are tested regularly, you can only claim that you are truely clean up to the next time you get a BBBJ.

The most risky act, BBANAL is never talked about. It is about the only way a man can get HIV from a woman sexually. The anus was not meant to take the stress of sex. The sphincter will tear and bleed. Blood equals risk for both parties. It is rumored that BBANAL is what made Magic Johnson HIV positive, his wife stayed clean while getting pregnant by him. Think about that a bit.

Because of the risk to the woman, BBFS should have an upcharge and should be at the lady's choice. If you are one of the ones that ask for it, then only ask once. If the answer is "No" then move on to CFS. Begging, bartering and attempted negotiation is a juvenile and unmanly thing to do.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

Yes it is out there. The ladies who do it are taking more risk than the men and most will say it is YMMV and at their discretion.

In many cases if the lady feels safe with you she will just proceed to doing it without asking. For those who won't, they will have the condom ready and waiting.

The question was raised as to why BBBJ and BBFS are linked in the same forum? For the educated it makes sense. BBBJ and BBFS have the same STD risk, so if you do one, then you should not be afraid of the other. Over my almost year 30 hobby life, I have gotten Chlamydia twice and in both cases it came from BBBJ, and it was from reputable, top tier ladies. I have also received the dreaded, "I think you should be tested. " phone call once. That instance proved to be negative, but it goes to show you that even if you and the lady are tested regularly, you can only claim that you are truely clean up to the next time you get a BBBJ.

The most risky act, BBANAL is never talked about. It is about the only way a man can get HIV from a woman sexually. The anus was not meant to take the stress of sex. The sphincter will tear and bleed. Blood equals risk for both parties. It is rumored that BBANAL is what made Magic Johnson HIV positive, his wife stayed clean while getting pregnant by him. Think about that a bit.

Because of the risk to the woman, BBFS should have an upcharge and should be at the lady's choice. If you are one of the ones that ask for it, then only ask once. If the answer is "No" then move on to CFS. Begging, bartering and attempted negotiation is a juvenile and unmanly thing to do.

[John Dough]

Looks like I might have contracted HPV, The warts I have pretty much look like skin tags. No pain, not spreading. And HPV not to be confused with HSV, totally different things. I've read that the body can get rid of the warts in it's own over a period of 3 months. I guess I'm looking for advice on what course of action I need to take to find a remedy.

HPV and HSV are both caused by a virus. There are some natural antiviral supplements you could try. Monolaurin from coconut oil is supposed to have antiviral activity. The most concentrated and highest dosage available is a product called Lauricidin. It is totally safe. A more controversial supplement is BHT, a food preservative available in capsules. I don't know if it's safe. Some people claim to have cured themselves of viral infections like hepatitis by using it.

You could also try placing tiny drops of chlorine bleach on the warts. I did this on the bottom of my foot. It worked and didn't hurt. In your case it is in a more sensitive location, so it will probably hurt. The trick is to get the drops very small so they don't touch the surrounding skin. Maybe try dipping a pointy object like a toothpick into the bleach.

[USNen]

So I have been in the hobby for about 4 years now. Not quite as active now because Florida had better selection than Virginia does (where I am now). I have always practiced safe sex have never done BBFS but have had my share of BBBJ's. Always have done research to find the legit girls. Throughout the years I never have had any issues with STI or STD. But I guess it was bound to happen. Looks like I might have contracted HPV, and from my research I have HPV 6 or 11. The warts I have pretty much look like skin tags. No pain, not spreading. And HPV not to be confused with HSV, totally different things. At least that's my understanding from research. I've read that the body can get rid of the warts in it's own over a period of 3 months. I guess I'm looking for advice on what course of action I need to take to find a remedy. And no I have not visited a physician just yet. Here's the plot twist. I have a SO and I am AD Military. If anyone on here is AD Mil, Will the physician I visit require me to disclose this info to my SO if I visit clinic on base? And what is the treatment for HPV?? Again. HPV 6 or 11 not the other types. And what are some alternative cost free clinics I can visit?? I have done research and I can only think of the planned Parenthood for testing and possible treatment at a reduced cost or free. Thanks fellas. Much help needed and very appreciated.

[PrettySheep]

The topic here is getting fired up, I just love reading your discussion. Very informative.