Non Pro's

**Hairpie Dinner** · 10-24-17 16:23

Anyone connected with Xomodel on SA?. I tried but no luck, probably scared her off with my not is subtle direct game. She's online all the time, so curious if anyone has connected with her?

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...e-f20c26085948

**Hairpie Dinner** · 10-24-17 13:32

I've got a hottie interested in her first Gangbang. I've hosted these before, they take work but usually are worth it.

Send me note if your interested in participating-Usually they want under 50,any race but D&DF.

Usually 2-6 men participate.

**Snaga** · 10-24-17 00:36

Originally Posted by MyNickname [View Original Post]

I met her. Waste of money and time because it was a poor experience. Summary, yes she delivers CFS and very lame / light 3 BJ for few seconds. She keeps pushing to do main event like she wants it done and over. I ended up cutting the visit short because all had to be done her way. It is all about her and her wants even though I told her multiple times that I did not want to be rushed she kept pushing.

She is the woman in her pictures and I checked her age.

Thanks, she is off my list now. She has been messaging me non stop, seems really desperate.

**Hairpie Dinner** · 10-23-17 23:58

Originally Posted by MyNickname [View Original Post]

I met her. Waste of money and time because it was a poor experience. Summary, yes she delivers CFS and very lame / light 3 BJ for few seconds. She keeps pushing to do main event like she wants it done and over. I ended up cutting the visit short because all had to be done her way. It is all about her and her wants even though I told her multiple times that I did not want to be rushed she kept pushing.

She is the woman in her pictures and I checked her age.

Yeah, she seemed more like a Pro rush job to me too when she emailed.

Thanks for the report and taking one for the team.

**MyNickname** · 10-23-17 22:55

I met her. Waste of money and time because it was a poor experience. Summary, yes she delivers CFS and very lame / light 3 BJ for few seconds. She keeps pushing to do main event like she wants it done and over. I ended up cutting the visit short because all had to be done her way. It is all about her and her wants even though I told her multiple times that I did not want to be rushed she kept pushing.

She is the woman in her pictures and I checked her age.

Originally Posted by CpFabulous [View Original Post]

She started doing the same thing to me, first it was a let's meet in the middle of the woods (literally) after I told her no, she told me to get a room in Kirkland and that she would meet me there. After a messages I told her she was really pushy and was not interested in meeting and she went into a rant on how I was a little ***** and missing the best fuck of my life. I would stay as far away as possible.

**PnwDood** · 10-21-17 17:07

Originally Posted by Rousse [View Original Post]

Ever gone fly fishing? You need just a bit of patience, a bit of finesse, and you reel them in. Same thing, different fly.

Hahaha! Amazing advice! Thanks!

**Rousse** · 10-20-17 21:58

Originally Posted by PnwDood [View Original Post]

First time posting here and kinda new to the scene. Been trying to read through the threads and use the advice that's been given (thanks all!) but I've not been having any luck. I created a SA account, filled in most of the info including a carefully worded message basically saying 'pay for play'. The fact that that hasn't generated a flood of contacts isn't all that strange I guess as I probably need to massage the message some. What I do find strange is that I can't find anyone using their search. If I do a search with a large radius and no filters I get some hits, but most haven't been active in weeks or months (sorting by recent activity). If I use almost any filters at all I get nothing. The links that have been posted to profiles in these threads are also all closed profiles. Even links from posts just a few days old. So. Am I missing something? Have all the SA girls left the site and I just haven't went caught up with current events yet? Or does SA have some lock on searches if you're not a paying member? That seems unlikely as the best way to get a horn dog to pay is to show them who they could be messaging if they were a pay member. Seems like I'm just missing some setting in the search or something but there's really not much to the search tools to overlook tbh.

Yeah, maybe don't believe everyone so precisely.

You don't really want to come across as a sleezy skank-a-holic. Your profile should talk you up as a successful, but busy, executive with little time for a normal relationship. Don't say P4 P, they'll find you. You want to say something like, "I've built my business, but it keeps me busy and traveling, so I haven't been able to dedicate the time to nurturing a relationship. I'm hoping to build an on-going arrangement where I see you every other week, when I'm in town, for. ".

The point is, you respect her as a potential on-going partner. Not that you have to continue that way, but it is the conceit.

Then you at least browse and "request private" their data. Better yet, read their profile and say something about it, like, "Wow, I am so impressed by your dedication to your art!" Which, of course, we all know means, "Wow, I am so grateful that you're a clueless idiot believing your childish art merits some attention that now you're desperate enough for me to be able to tap!" But you don't print that.

Ever gone fly fishing? You need just a bit of patience, a bit of finesse, and you reel them in. Same thing, different fly.

**Zach106** · 10-20-17 20:54

Seen:

1) Cherrykiss18 - Pro; SA account was deactivated; 250 at tubs; bbfscip avail; NO BBBJ or greek, batshit crazy, not very attractive; couldn't keep my dick in her though I did get a tad soft after a 420 exchange but hard enough; worthless, avoid.

2) Ms. F. Jones. Pro; 200 at dumpy Hosmer hotel; all covered but good skills anyway; willing to go BB after few visits with papers; stoner, better looking than SA pics.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...d-532f2829b313

3) Jewel. Non-Pro, experienced SB; 300 with incall wants 400; great looking and body; sex not great but she did have a cold; just cfs and HJ nothing else; started hitting me up for advances right after 1st and only date.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...2-aa8d1911d048

4) WA SimplySexy. Pro 200 per hr with incall; awesome BBBJ, everything else covered no greek; very adamant about cfs; probably 40 ish not 33; cute with nice rack and curves; very clean during daty, super wet; little heavier than pics; only one I'll considered repeating with.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...c-429e2989534a

NOT Seen but seem to be very desperate:

1) Nativebeauty253 - 200 per visit, haven't discussed bb;.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...b-7b0b95a24200

2) ChocolateBabygirl123 - agreed to 200/ visit; agreed to BB with papers.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...c-e57782e63c34

**Pdxdtf** · 10-20-17 19:08

Originally Posted by PnwDood [View Original Post]

First time posting here and kinda new to the scene. Been trying to read through the threads and use the advice that's been given (thanks all!) but I've not been having any luck. I created a SA account, filled in most of the info including a carefully worded message basically saying 'pay for play'. The fact that that hasn't generated a flood of contacts isn't all that strange I guess as I probably need to massage the message some. What I do find strange is that I can't find anyone using their search. If I do a search with a large radius and no filters I get some hits, but most haven't been active in weeks or months (sorting by recent activity). If I use almost any filters at all I get nothing. The links that have been posted to profiles in these threads are also all closed profiles. Even links from posts just a few days old. So. Am I missing something? Have all the SA girls left the site and I just haven't went caught up with current events yet? Or does SA have some lock on searches if you're not a paying member? That seems unlikely as the best way to get a horn dog to pay is to show them who they could be messaging if they were a pay member. Seems like I'm just missing some setting in the search or something but there's really not much to the search tools to overlook tbh.

I would just sort by most recently active. I just met an SA girl here today in Portland, definitely a cute chic. $600 all in for 3 hours of hanging out, BBBJNQNS along with anal.

**PnwDood** · 10-19-17 14:39

First time posting here and kinda new to the scene. Been trying to read through the threads and use the advice that's been given (thanks all!) but I've not been having any luck. I created a SA account, filled in most of the info including a carefully worded message basically saying 'pay for play'. The fact that that hasn't generated a flood of contacts isn't all that strange I guess as I probably need to massage the message some. What I do find strange is that I can't find anyone using their search. If I do a search with a large radius and no filters I get some hits, but most haven't been active in weeks or months (sorting by recent activity). If I use almost any filters at all I get nothing. The links that have been posted to profiles in these threads are also all closed profiles. Even links from posts just a few days old. So. Am I missing something? Have all the SA girls left the site and I just haven't went caught up with current events yet? Or does SA have some lock on searches if you're not a paying member? That seems unlikely as the best way to get a horn dog to pay is to show them who they could be messaging if they were a pay member. Seems like I'm just missing some setting in the search or something but there's really not much to the search tools to overlook tbh.

**Hairpie Dinner** · 10-18-17 15:26

Originally Posted by Kisaku1218 [View Original Post]

Hat's off for your sharing info, this is GOLD.

Been BB non-pro for years, they are by far more clean than usual (lots of divorced / ex-**** during college yrs).

I try to get one in every city I visit, so when I go I can stay at her place and have a good time.

The best feeling in this world is you fucking a young, hot, tight body (and V) that on BC and take balls deep full load.

40+ woman also pretty good, they are good in bed, and if not slightly dry but most I banged are in very good shape for a 40.

20 40 and stay away from the crazy. Be safe out there.

Woman don't understand, sex for men is like food, sometimes when you are too hungry (in this case, thirsty) you don't care about emotional connection..

Great Info and thanks for sharing. I assume its best to pay after the deed? Do they ask for it upfront or is it more subtle with SA's?

**Kisaku1218** · 10-16-17 02:45

Originally Posted by LovenLife [View Original Post]

Thanks for all the sharing about SA. I have been on there for a couple of months and decided to share my observations.

1. I enjoy SA much more than TNA. Maybe it is the thrill of the hunt. I am swinging for the high hanging fruit.

2. Definitely I have found myself gravitating to the over 30. I am looking for the GFE and like when women know and enjoy the act.

3. Have a good profile and include a photo to draw them in, and include some private photos to swap for their private photos.

4. Unlike some posts I do not immediately go in for the "kill". I usually find something in their profile to ask about, or ask how their weekend was or like today ask if they are enjoying the change in weather. I chit chat for a few messages. Then I slowly steer the conversation by asking if they have met anyone from the site. Surprisingly many have not. Then I ask what type of arrangement they are seeking. From there I will ask them what they are comfortable with. At this point I know exactly what to expect from an upcoming date.

5. Typically I get some sort of response that they don't want to feel like a hooker or prostitute. I always reassure them they are not.

6. I usually use a carrot that I am trying to find a single lady to build a "relationship" with. I am in it for the long term.

7. Have a "sob" story about why you are on the site. Too busy raising my kid, work, and training to pursue traditional relationship. That way they are not looking down on you as some schmuck that can't date.

7 a. I spent the first month honing my responses to general question like: my introduction text, what are you seeking, and have you done this before. I steer the conversations towards questions I have prepared responses for.

8. I usually meet them in a public place of their choosing, then suggest we get a room if I am attracted to them. I never pay if nothing transpires.

9. Move on to the next one.

10. Again I seeking the non pros, and it amazing the stories they tell me about how they approached and turned off by guys treating the like hookers.

11. Every women over 30 I have contacted is definitely dtf, and most of the others are too.

12. Bareback is not my thing. However, almost all would have no problem with it. Even if they say must use a condom, they typically don't require it, or on the second "date" tell me I don't have to.

Again these are just my observations. Thanks to all who have given this community some much information.

These are just my observation.

Hat's off for your sharing info, this is GOLD.

Been BB non-pro for years, they are by far more clean than usual (lots of divorced / ex-**** during college yrs).

I try to get one in every city I visit, so when I go I can stay at her place and have a good time.

The best feeling in this world is you fucking a young, hot, tight body (and V) that on BC and take balls deep full load.

40+ woman also pretty good, they are good in bed, and if not slightly dry but most I banged are in very good shape for a 40.

20 40 and stay away from the crazy. Be safe out there.

Woman don't understand, sex for men is like food, sometimes when you are too hungry (in this case, thirsty) you don't care about emotional connection.

Then when we get enough sex (only for the time being, remind you) then we thought about the woman we want to spend our life with.

Sadly, most hot and young body I know had worst mental problem combination of this generation, been dating late 20 30 ish women now, they are calmer but also more calculated.

Once a while you going to encounter the early 20 but mature girl, she is not as crazy but love doggy and get plowed by you, I guess that is how she became my LTR.

Thank you.

**CautionItsWet** · 10-11-17 13:27

Originally Posted by AmbushBug [View Original Post]

Sugarplum Queen https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...7-aef8aecc96ea asks $400, will negotiate.

Bellababyy22 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...1-fcfbe17b1910 asks $300 or $400.

1 nightinParis https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...6-0e75941969ac unsure on allowance.

RandAseattle https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...6-7d68a2b06f8d Duo asking for $800, will negotiate.

AllAmericanGurl https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...2-da3ad64cc2d3 unsure on allowance.

Thanks a ton! I'm going to need to signup so I can finally view these profiles.

**AmbushBug** · 10-07-17 16:34

Sugarplum Queen https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...7-aef8aecc96ea asks $400, will negotiate.

Bellababyy22 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...1-fcfbe17b1910 asks $300 or $400.

1 nightinParis https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...6-0e75941969ac unsure on allowance.

RandAseattle https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...6-7d68a2b06f8d Duo asking for $800, will negotiate.

AllAmericanGurl https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...2-da3ad64cc2d3 unsure on allowance.

**CpFabulous** · 10-04-17 16:08

Originally Posted by Sancrist [View Original Post]

Trying to figure out hotels that I can get between ten and 3 up north around everett. Most of my sa girls I have line up don't have places and most hotels are check out noon and check in at 3. Thanks for all of the great info on the site got about twenty numbers in the last 3 weeks.

Yeap I've been on the same situation, my advice is find a motel (not a hotel) and just drive in and walk to the reception and tell them why do you have rooms available? Check in right now, will be checking out a little bit later today. They usually can accommodate a room that is already cleaned and will be occupied later. It has worked on some of the Aurora Motels.