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**Edge 1201** · 10-05-17 16:03

Originally Posted by Lakeshore1 [View Original Post]

Sweet. I'd love to get her contact info.

Slim Tori has fantastic legs! I have not tried a haircut with her so thanks TOFTT. For a couple $$ you can move to her table & enjoy much more. Be punctual when you meet. Message me & I will give her digits.

**GweedoMumford** · 10-05-17 14:48

Originally Posted by Otto22 [View Original Post]

Benz suggests taking this topic here so let's get started. I admit that I hate to negotiate so with escorts I will simply hangup or quit testing if they ask for more than I would consider. At a MP I also don't negotiate but I also don't make the girl guess how much tip I'm good for. I have had a several good appointments ruined by upsell and dickering. I usually go to MBD where they have clear tip jars where it is evident what you place there. I have had good experiences by putting my tip in the jar before the provider even enters the room. Everyone then knows what I expect and the provider knows what she will get. The contingency, at that point, is not whether I will tip but whether I will repeat. I respect Benz's point of view that the tip should only be paid after the service is complete, however, when you know the provider and the likely service, it seems only fair to put out what you will give so the provider knows how serious you are and will not try to upsell. At least that has been my experience.

I do put the tip out up front and have had 50/50 results. Clearly I find out the hard way where "Not" to go back to. But it is a pita, and cost me $ I could have spent elsewhere productively I. E. Trista. Now that was a terrible experience, and I should have known better. I enjoy trying something new, but it can be risky when you lay cash down b / f service. I have my own personality demon of having a hard time walking away or confronting the situation while I am in the middle of the situation I. E. Not making a seen. I have been at this for a long time, I should learn by now. I need to take more of a Benz outlook on this, but it is difficult.

**Otto22** · 10-05-17 14:00

Originally Posted by Benz1 [View Original Post]

Sounds like a good experience. Not all of us have those girls we can go and trust. We all know that service and attitude can change with each visit. We get stuck on the table with our dick in their hand and they start negotiating, that's when you have to start thinking with your big head, how much is this worth? Some of the massage parlors and girls have decided that paying early ends the negotiations but it also can lead to rip off. If you paid for a half hour and only get 15 minutes that's a rip-off, did she steal your money or did you gave it to her too early? There is no accountability for their massage or Happy Endings, if you tip early. The only true accountability is on usasexguide reviews and if they don't read this forum the majority of mongers will get ripped off, when they tip early. So how do we end GPS in the massage parlors? It's easy, keep your money in your pocket until the services are done. How do we end GPS for escorts? That's easy too. They will give you the price before you arrive, if you don't like the price hang up. Learn how to walk out the door on an upsell, think with the big head.
No GPS for me!

I think Benz and I are in general agreement. I never pay much less tip an escort until the show is over. MPs, however, are a little different inasmuch as most require an upfront payment leaving the gratuity as the only discretionary item. I choose to be a repeat customer at most MPs so I know what I am getting and they know me. Accordingly, I choose to offer the tip before the performance. Probably not for everyone but works for me. When I am at my Florida place I have learned that I must negotiate a bit, particularly with escorts. Many Florida escorts will start the bidding at $150/ hhr and $250/ hr but will always drop to more reasonable rates when I threaten to hangup. In general I urge our brothers to heed the advice of Benz as he is usually correct on these matters. You may consider me an outlyer who experience and preferences may not match yours. Hobby hard but hobby safe.

Otto22.

**Benz1** · 10-05-17 10:56

Originally Posted by Otto22 [View Original Post]

Benz suggests taking this topic here so let's get started. I admit that I hate to negotiate so with escorts I will simply hangup or quit testing if they ask for more than I would consider. At a MP I also don't negotiate but I also don't make the girl guess how much tip I'm good for. I have had a several good appointments ruined by upsell and dickering. I usually go to MBD where they have clear tip jars where it is evident what you place there. I have had good experiences by putting my tip in the jar before the provider even enters the room. Everyone then knows what I expect and the provider knows what she will get. The contingency, at that point, is not whether I will tip but whether I will repeat. I respect Benz's point of view that the tip should only be paid after the service is complete, however, when you know the provider and the likely service, it seems only fair to put out what you will give so the provider knows how serious you are and will not try to upsell. At least that has been my experience.

Sounds like a good experience. Not all of us have those girls we can go and trust. We all know that service and attitude can change with each visit. We get stuck on the table with our dick in their hand and they start negotiating, that's when you have to start thinking with your big head, how much is this worth? Some of the massage parlors and girls have decided that paying early ends the negotiations but it also can lead to rip off. If you paid for a half hour and only get 15 minutes that's a rip-off, did she steal your money or did you gave it to her too early? There is no accountability for their massage or Happy Endings, if you tip early. The only true accountability is on usasexguide reviews and if they don't read this forum the majority of mongers will get ripped off, when they tip early. So how do we end GPS in the massage parlors? It's easy, keep your money in your pocket until the services are done. How do we end GPS for escorts? That's easy too. They will give you the price before you arrive, if you don't like the price hang up. Learn how to walk out the door on an upsell, think with the big head.
No GPS for me!

**Otto22** · 10-04-17 22:33

Benz suggests taking this topic here so let's get started. I admit that I hate to negotiate so with escorts I will simply hangup or quit testing if they ask for more than I would consider. At a MP I also don't negotiate but I also don't make the girl guess how much tip I'm good for. I have had a several good appointments ruined by upsell and dickering. I usually go to MBD where they have clear tip jars where it is evident what you place there. I have had good experiences by putting my tip in the jar before the provider even enters the room. Everyone then knows what I expect and the provider knows what she will get. The contingency, at that point, is not whether I will tip but whether I will repeat. I respect Benz's point of view that the tip should only be paid after the service is complete, however, when you know the provider and the likely service, it seems only fair to put out what you will give so the provider knows how serious you are and will not try to upsell. At least that has been my experience.

**Lakeshore1** · 09-28-17 10:06

Originally Posted by EdMonger [View Original Post]

Try Slim Tori. The one with her store next to the Dentist on Kalamazoo or Breton. I am sure someone has her digits. She is a masseuse and haircut specialist.

Sweet. I'd love to get her contact info.

**EdMonger** · 09-27-17 19:55

Try Slim Tori. The one with her store next to the Dentist on Kalamazoo or Breton. I am sure someone has her digits. She is a masseuse and haircut specialist.

Originally Posted by Bloozer [View Original Post]

I know an old barber who'll take his shirt off. Not a pretty site but ya get a great haircut!

**Bloozer** · 09-27-17 17:37

Originally Posted by Lakeshore1 [View Original Post]

Does anyone know of a girl / woman who may give topless haircuts?

I know an old barber who'll take his shirt off. Not a pretty site but ya get a great haircut!

**Lakeshore1** · 09-27-17 12:17

Does anyone know of a girl / woman who may give topless haircuts?

**Amaregraeco** · 09-24-17 13:19

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**Benz1** · 09-24-17 09:59

I totally agree with Girls1.

Piemaster has an interesting theory but I don't believe LE has the time and resources to follow and trap us for soliciting sex. LE does put alot of resources into finding drug dealers and trapping them. They could also get a good well known provider to set up drug dealers like Natalie / Bell in Kazoo. Bell was a member of this forum that posted LE's offer right on the Kalamazoo forum. They wanted her to help bust drug dealers. She informed us that she would not take their deal of eliminating charges in exchange for setting people up.
Drugs and underage girls is were LE is focused, our members are at risk everytime we enter a room where drugs or under age girls are being or sold.

If we are going to stay out of the dragnet or snare of LE, we all need to be more observant of our surroundings and report them on USASEXGUIDE for all our members benifit.

Our safety is the reason this forum exsits.

**Girls1** · 09-24-17 09:21

Piemaster posted this in the Ann Arbor forum, and I was wondering about it myself. Anybody with any thoughts on how this could bite us in the ass? I still maintain that just because someone 'visits' a site (I. E. Fb, BP, etc.), or even messages someone and / or texts someone, that doesn't mean that they actually do anything that they shouldn't. Internet is free speech, and we're all just 'dreaming' about actual visits anyway, right?
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Social Media Required.

Originally Posted by Piemaster [View Original Post]

Gentlemen,

I would like to discuss this new social media requirement the girls have, and take a moment for all to reflect the increased risks involved.

I know as a fact Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram all have backdoors Uncle LEO gets into in order to find and identify people, including seeing conversations and links from other website and pages said person visited. Any and all websites that have a link with such report back and log IP addresses. If you have none of the above you have less to worry about as the IP log isn't tied to an account or phone number. Unless you are visiting all these sites and BP with a proxy or VPN you don't eliminate identification with a simple request to your ISP. That isn't even need most of the time as location of an IP is gainable without in many instances. And then Uncle will come knocking.

Today, a "girl" asked me to send her one of the above accounts to "verify" I am a real person. I have no doubt in my mind it was my Uncle LEO trying to trick me again. If you want to know who, I'll send the link or phone number in a PM.

I would like as a result of this post for us to collectively post alternative sites to find our girls; it has become too risky now as they can straight identify.

Piemaster.

**Girls1** · 09-18-17 12:17

I think that, yes, some will resort to both the street and / or Craig's list. The big problem for them though with that route is NO reviews that way.

A lot of guys won't see a girl who hasn't been reviewed fearing either a bad appt. , mugging / ripoff, or LEO.

Time will tell, but I'm assuming that most will soon 'figure it out' in regards to the coins.

Originally Posted by Stroker417 [View Original Post]

Or we'll find more of them on Craigslist.

**Stroker417** · 09-18-17 12:07

Originally Posted by Monger01 [View Original Post]

I checked it out and really it's simple. The ones with no bank accounts (I know some that actually have bank accounts) simply buy a Visa gift card and load it on the BP bitcoin page. They don't have to join a bitcoin exchange or anything.

I see more posting now so I'd say they've figured it out.

Or we'll find more of them on Craigslist.

**Monger01** · 09-18-17 11:37

I checked it out and really it's simple. The ones with no bank accounts (I know some that actually have bank accounts) simply buy a Visa gift card and load it on the BP bitcoin page. They don't have to join a bitcoin exchange or anything.

I see more posting now so I'd say they've figured it out.

Originally Posted by Benz1 [View Original Post]

If they can't figure out how to buy bitcoins, we will have more street walkers in the very near future.