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  1. #22259
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    Fiction or Fact

    Quote Originally Posted by IndianRiver  [View Original Post]
    The owners and some members who are part owners or close to the owners are posting every day about CB, BB, and C&B. True, there are some real posts but it is obvious that many are paid advertising. Just look at the frequency of some members posts and you will see what I speak of. They use different names sometimes but you can see thru that. My opinion.
    Like any place it takes a little time to sort through the Bull Shit post about any place no matter how long it's been in business. Indian River is right some positive post on here, Rubmaps and other places can be from the Owner, employees that work there, husbands or boyfriends of the owners or girls in the store, or members just fucking with us, this theory can also apply to CB or any other place. Like I said earlier as the reviews roll in from many members that can be so call trusted for their opinions THEN things start to sound legit. A new place like Cream and Buddah I don't take a lot of stock in the first batch of reports, it takes a village to convince me. Just look at the first few post about this place, one guy said girls were average and skinny it definitely ain't CB material, then one guy said fantastic another guy said this place will be mega pussy factory huge place with many girls on the way. Just these few post send different messages because it's too early to tell. My advice is don't believe everything you read and a little time will definitely tell.

    My gut feeling is a little bit of all the post are probably correct, it's being hyped and advertised to attract the CB crowd and it probably does have big plans but it will take them time to get their footing and have the right rotation of staff and get repeats. Remember the girls that are hot and deliver the goods are going to go where the cash is flowing. If the cash starts to flow at this place you will see some very nice ladies come there. All about the cash my friends once that's ironed out then the post here will be consistent.

  2. #22258

    Cb2

    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeOne  [View Original Post]
    Am I the only suspicious of all these CB2 posts? I mean not one of them have given any rates yet, it just seems really off.
    The owners and some members who are part owners or close to the owners are posting every day about CB, BB, and C&B. True, there are some real posts but it is obvious that many are paid advertising. Just look at the frequency of some members posts and you will see what I speak of. They use different names sometimes but you can see thru that. My opinion.

  3. #22257

    I Tried the New Place

    I dreamed I visited the new massage place, Cream and Butter. It is in a strip mall and the location has been recently remodeled inside. When I arrived they were quite busy. I saw several ladies rushing around in the hallway. The hallway was somewhat narrow and had many rooms on either side. I was given a room and ended up with a massage therapist named Reinas. I did not get to see a line-up. I would say Reinas was just under 30. She was quite attractive and dressed in a tight, short dress.

    The half-hour massage was 60. It was not a very good massage. It was ok, but if you are looking for a good massage along with your other hobbies, this is not the place. After she asked me to flip over she asked if I wanted a tug. We discussed what else was available. I learned BBBJ and more were available. After a discussion we agreed on somethings. She looked really good without that dress on. She had nice perky breasts and a tight little body. I dreamed I enjoyed myself. I hope I return in a future dream.

    Tommy.

  4. #22256
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    Posts: 1535
    Quote Originally Posted by TruthBtold00  [View Original Post]
    I went to Cream and Butter today and surprisingly met the mamasan from CB at the door. She introduced 5 of her girls and two I did recognized from both BB and CB1 and the rest were brand new. All five were young definitely between 20-30, all proportionately slender and very nice bodies some very busty I drew Venus very hot and young my experience was awesome I won't go into details but definitely CB\BB material, was told more are arriving. They are currently operating out of just half of their spa which already has five spacious rooms and a huge shower room. The other half is finishing up with an additional steam sauna and another huge shower room, the rest will be ready in a about a week and they plan on bringing in plenty of fresh new faces to town. The place is going to be huge. They are refusing clients that they don't feel comfortable with, most likely bad competition whackos and whack jobs from around the corner snooping around causing problems. Other than that mamasan said it has been a great Grand Opening and all the clients has been leaving very pleased, if anyone says anything differently it must have been the few trouble makers coming in behaving inappropiately mistreating the girls making them feel uncomfortable, Why are they doing this? Who knows why these guys come in and do these terrible things to these girls possibly it's because maybe they feel that Cream and Butter is going to be a threat to their spas who knows? So yes they will be selective. So let's try to be as accurate and honest with our postings on here do considering YMMV, people are going to go check CB2 out regardless what has been written on here and will discredit untrue reviews once they visit. BTW it is in a very decent plaza not run down by any means, yes older building but mamasan did apologized about the cleaning crew outside cleaning they are also remodeling the plaza. She even walked me through the entire spa even the unfinished area very upscale. Give it about a week or so I think it's going to be the new "It place". They are warming up, be ready.
    With all the customers bumping into each other in the hall and the parking lot at CB & GG. Sounds like this is the expansion that was needed. The service quality will speak for itself as the post start to roll in. The Majority will rule.

  5. #22255

    I'll play this game. SC / SW / AMP / UTR

    Quote Originally Posted by XHippie  [View Original Post]
    Just an outsiders opinion.

    * strip clubs, no opinion on Fl. Clubs, I personally have never found them satisfying. The drinks and the girls too fucking expensive to leave blue balled. Just not my type of entertainment.

    * Street Walkers, on the SW Thread there is a ton of info and several members that have great connection and experience hooking up with the right ones. But everytime I ride down OBT all I see are a bunch of skanks and I go from one end to the other. I'm sure I'm not looking in the right place or the right time. Maybe I'm just looking for a big tit Asian LOL.

    * Asian Massage, Taking a line from Wood Stock. WE MUST BE IN HEAVEN MAN! Cause we ain't got shit in NC that can compare with this area.

    The old saying is true, you know what you like because it's what gets your disposable cash.

    Just a side note if you name your store Cream and Butter Massage why not just go all the way and call it Suck and Fuck Massage
    Ok this is my kind of game-.

    Strip Clubs. You have to get out of O-town to get to a good one -- The best is the Mons Venus in Tampa - $20 to get in, no booze, full naked full contact- bring and extra pair of underwear or condom because you will mess your pants. Also you will smell like stripper, so bring a change of clothes otherwise you will be visiting a laundromat and washing your clothes. I personally like the day shift girls because they try harder and usually are more real. The night shift girls are hot, model quality strippers who will bleed your money dry. They are pros and to quote Chris Rock. There is no love in the Champagne room. - Next best strip club is Bare Assets in Newport Ritchey. This place is near Palm Harbour and Innisbrook Golf resort. You actually might find love in the champagne room here. The strip clubs have back rooms with multiple layers of touching from topless to the full deed (although not allowed sometimes overlooked) One part time stripper and otherwise hot MILF completely took advantage of me in the back room and I will never forget it. Awesome time when she slipped a cover on and rode me like a dimestore cowboy ride.

    Street Walkers -- Almost all SW have huge drug problems and almost all have some sort of disease. If they look like they are clean. They are probably LEO.

    AMP- hit or miss, some of the best experiences and rubs in town. Cherry Blossom and BB when it was here were great for the high end version of what an AMP can bring you. Magic / Island or AShaii in Altamonte are solid reliable players in the good rub and tug business. There are places all over the tri-county area that do a fine job of rub and tug and I am always pleased to learn of a new gem or an old gem turned good again. What makes an AMP an AMP in my book is a great table shower, if that starts well you know you are in a for a good ride.

    UTR. The elusive UTR massage girl -- there are a bunch and us SM's hoard them like a fat kid hides skittles. We all have our favorites and some of us are always looking for our next favorite. Some UTRs surface and go mainstream for a bit and others pop in and out of our lives. If you like this hobby then you live for this hunt. My favorite is going to a legit MT and then realizing they could be a UTR and having that experience. It is like finding gold. That's my two cents worth. Thanks for letting me play. If you need an opinion I have a couple DM me. -YMMV -- Dog.

  6. #22254

    Cream and Butter

    Am I the only suspicious of all these CB2 posts? I mean not one of them have given any rates yet, it just seems really off.

  7. #22253

    Cream and Butter

    I went to Cream and Butter today and surprisingly met the mamasan from CB at the door. She introduced 5 of her girls and two I did recognized from both BB and CB1 and the rest were brand new. All five were young definitely between 20-30, all proportionately slender and very nice bodies some very busty I drew Venus very hot and young my experience was awesome I won't go into details but definitely CB\BB material, was told more are arriving. They are currently operating out of just half of their spa which already has five spacious rooms and a huge shower room. The other half is finishing up with an additional steam sauna and another huge shower room, the rest will be ready in a about a week and they plan on bringing in plenty of fresh new faces to town. The place is going to be huge. They are refusing clients that they don't feel comfortable with, most likely bad competition whackos and whack jobs from around the corner snooping around causing problems. Other than that mamasan said it has been a great Grand Opening and all the clients has been leaving very pleased, if anyone says anything differently it must have been the few trouble makers coming in behaving inappropiately mistreating the girls making them feel uncomfortable, Why are they doing this? Who knows why these guys come in and do these terrible things to these girls possibly it's because maybe they feel that Cream and Butter is going to be a threat to their spas who knows? So yes they will be selective. So let's try to be as accurate and honest with our postings on here do considering YMMV, people are going to go check CB2 out regardless what has been written on here and will discredit untrue reviews once they visit. BTW it is in a very decent plaza not run down by any means, yes older building but mamasan did apologized about the cleaning crew outside cleaning they are also remodeling the plaza. She even walked me through the entire spa even the unfinished area very upscale. Give it about a week or so I think it's going to be the new "It place". They are warming up, be ready.

  8. #22252
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    Posts: 1535

    Asian Flowers / Line Up Request

    Quote Originally Posted by TheReal84  [View Original Post]
    Appreciate you replying back to my post. I may stop by again. Is there a nice way of asking for a line up of the girls on duty that day?
    Asking who greets you "can I see who else is available" is fine at any place. A busy rocking place during busy times "CB" forget about it they want you in and out besides the greeter may be the only one available but you can ask you May luck out. Some stores have a employee rotation schedule where the girls work their turn BUT if a customer ask for a specific girl he gets her if she's available they don't want to loose a customer. If a store only has 2 or 3 girls and just one of them is working, well there's not going to be too much of a line up. In my years of doing this I'll be honest I've seen more American Places with a line up selection than I have Asian places. Most these Asian places have a lean & mean business model and can move, change staff, change owners or shut down at the drop of a hat. I guess what I'm saying is at a low volume place or a place at a slow time they should be willing to let you see who's available it's not an unusual request. They are glad to see anyone walk in the door and ask, can I have a choice how I spend my money here today.

  9. #22251

    Cream & Butter: The New Best

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackZ28  [View Original Post]
    Been a while since I've commented here, but there seemed to be a lot of anticipation about this place.

    Stopped by Cream & Butter today to see what all the hype was about. First impressions had me a little suspect. The ad is advertising a top-notch facility larger than any in Orlando. To the contrary, it's a rather small establishment in a dingy strip mall. Went in and was greeted by a girl in her late 20's who wound up being my therapist. Decent English, and yet still difficult to understand with the accent. Pretty girl, kind of on the slender side. Table shower was offered and the service was about average for an AMP. Off to the room, the massage started out very mechanical. In actuality there was hardly any pressure and she seemed a bit and experienced for massage. Fairly soon into the session, a hint of additional services were offered, but the prices seemed a bit higher than expected. Considering that I would have greatly benefited from a good massage today, my mood was a bit lackluster. I opted just for a standard experience although as I've mentioned the menu could expand. I guess for some who deliberately go in search of one aspect of these type of places, you'd likely have a good time. I'm just used to getting a pretty decent massage included for the price. I don't want to discourage anyone else as YMMV.

    On a sidenote, I think I've come to the realization that I just prefer connecting with the "local" ladies. I think it's the language barrier for me. To each his own.

    Again, I wouldn't discourage anyone from going, just checked it out for yourself.
    I heard that Cream & Butter is going to be twice as large as it is now. They are building out the neighboring suite to double the size of this great place. It will have a steam / sauna room as well. Stay safe.

  10. #22250

    Got denied at new CB

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoup100  [View Original Post]
    Went by and cream and butter yesterday. I don't know who wrote that piece earlier but my experience was the exact opposite. The girl I drew had no business giving massages. It was the absolute worst with no extras even mentioned. I even warned a fellow Monger who is sitting there waiting not to go see the girl. Iwill never go back.
    Maybe they spooked, I came and said they were busy and booked up all night. Parking lot was empty and then I saw another monger walked in just fine. Maybe she thought I was LEO because I'm young and wore my professional attire. Headed to cb and it was slow had Mona yadda yadda yadda. Paid for the hour busted my nut early and she gave an ok massage for the remainder of the time.

  11. #22249
    Quote Originally Posted by XHippie  [View Original Post]
    The two times I've been there were pretty damn good, the first time was with a spunky little thing with nice tits named FeeFee late June but she left for NY or somewhere. Then again earlier this month with Jenny very accommodating. There was a young looking girl there that day with a nice pair of tits would have loved to gone back to see her but I didn't get her name dang! Seems I read a few pages back that this place is affiliated with another store and the girls rotate, GG? I don't know I can't remember. But I think different ones are in and out of this place which can be a possible gamble on any given visit. But it does serve a full menu regardless who's on duty.
    Appreciate you replying back to my post. I may stop by again. Is there a nice way of asking for a line up of the girls on duty that day?

  12. #22248

    New Place. No chatter?

    Could not stand it. No reports on the new "BB". Well, it is no Bora Bora in my experience. I have had better massages in a fist fight. If you were there today and heard someone yell, that was me. I have never had an elbow used on me like that. Did not recognize anyone from CB or BB or any other spa in O. Did remember being here when it was another AMP. Never came back. Did get a little service after mamasan came to check out the screamer. Poor english skills but sign language managed a CBJ if you could call it that with a standard finish. $. 6 out the door and not to return until things improve. Hope you draw a different provider. I can't call her a therapist. No wonder there are not reports, everyones ashamed to have to admit this crap.

  13. #22247
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    Asian Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by TheReal84  [View Original Post]
    Stopped yesterday at Asian Flowers on 50 and the Trail. Walked in around 10 am. Drew a slim older late 40 pretty asian lady. Wasn't extra on top or bottom area but just average. Asked about the $50 hour special but she said that was going on. 1 hour 60 and half was 40. Opt for the half. Went in the room and asked me to get comfortable. Layed on the bed and man did the sheets smell bad. She started the massage and said her name was Linda. Massage was ok but def not the best. 1 o minutes in she asked if I've been there before and everyone knows what to answer there. LOL. Phone rung a few times and she went to answer each time. Didn't like that. 10 minutes after that she asked me to flip and then asked what I wanted. Was already thrown off by the smell of the sheets so just went for a tug. She said. 6 but I countered with. 4. Very mechanical. Will not be returning. Unless someone has some names to drop who would be better. I'm more of a chesty type guy. Any help in any massage parlor would help. Thanks.
    The two times I've been there were pretty damn good, the first time was with a spunky little thing with nice tits named FeeFee late June but she left for NY or somewhere. Then again earlier this month with Jenny very accommodating. There was a young looking girl there that day with a nice pair of tits would have loved to gone back to see her but I didn't get her name dang! Seems I read a few pages back that this place is affiliated with another store and the girls rotate, GG? I don't know I can't remember. But I think different ones are in and out of this place which can be a possible gamble on any given visit. But it does serve a full menu regardless who's on duty.

  14. #22246

    Asian Flowers not so great

    Stopped yesterday at Asian Flowers on 50 and the Trail. Walked in around 10 am. Drew a slim older late 40 pretty asian lady. Wasn't extra on top or bottom area but just average. Asked about the $50 hour special but she said that was going on. 1 hour 60 and half was 40. Opt for the half. Went in the room and asked me to get comfortable. Layed on the bed and man did the sheets smell bad. She started the massage and said her name was Linda. Massage was ok but def not the best. 1 o minutes in she asked if I've been there before and everyone knows what to answer there. LOL. Phone rung a few times and she went to answer each time. Didn't like that. 10 minutes after that she asked me to flip and then asked what I wanted. Was already thrown off by the smell of the sheets so just went for a tug. She said. 6 but I countered with. 4. Very mechanical. Will not be returning. Unless someone has some names to drop who would be better. I'm more of a chesty type guy. Any help in any massage parlor would help. Thanks.

  15. #22245

    Cb 2. 0

    Stopped by recently to confirm suspicions for myself -- enough familiar faces that I'm confident saying this is at least related to the CB you all know. I also saw a couple pretty girls I didn't recognize, not sure if that's just because I normally stick to who I know and like though. As far as I can tell it's going to be the same great experience, so you should like this place if you like CB.

    Inside is nicer too. Newer looking and the rooms I saw were all larger than the rooms at CB, excluding that big room on the left.

    http://orlando.backpage.com/Therapeu...ening/25291227

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