MotorCity Mayhem

[Jackknoff]

Ohh nooo, how will we survive without the drama queen!

You're just upset because someone called you out for having 500 posts of nothing.

Definitely a bad tone on here lately. Lots of wanting to call each other out.

I said there is bad tone on here lately because of posts like yours.

Please reread your recent posts and ask yourself if you could have rephrased your comments in a more constructive way.

[HookerLover]

So I'm not allowed to post on here cause I didn't know what YMMV meant? Actually I did know what it meant. I never asked what it means. So that's false. I probably now the law better than you cause I'm study it.

NO offense, but your last statement sounds so dumb. Lmao you "probably now the law" I learned in grade school it's know. Maybe they don't teach you that at law school. And then you say, "cause I'm study it" Come on man.

[Cocaine]

I once went to an incall in Warren. I walked into the room and walked right back out because the girl was a hot mess. About a mile down the road I was pulled over and asked what I was doing at the hotel. I told the cop that my boss asked me to stop by and check on a co-worker who was living there, he was a no call no show for the last three days. The cop didn't believe me and wrote me a ticket for three moving violations, failure to stop upon leaving private property, not using my turning signal, and speeding. The tickets were total bullshit. I stopped, used my turning signal, and I wasn't speeding. If you think for a second the cops won't lie to make their job easier you're wrong. If they can lie and say you were speeding when you weren't, they could easily lie and say you called him every name in the book and arrest you for disorderly conduct.

I find it funny how the guys who have never even been handcuffed think they know so much about the law. Trust me that way of thinking will change after a night or two in jail. Sure you don't have to talk to the cops, but the cops don't have to tell the truth either.

You got off lucky that the cop didn't think to write you a ticket for no seat belt. Cops lie all the time on the stand, such that it would be amusing as heck to actually have one hooked up to a lie detector when they are on the stand.

[Cocaine]

So I'm not allowed to post on here cause I didn't know what YMMV meant? Actually I did know what it meant. I never asked what it means. So that's false. I probably now the law better than you cause I'm study it.

I'm sorry but what's YMMV mean?

Not to pile on but I found and present your post. Also you spell know with a K.

[Tiger0033]

I love how a guy that doesn't know what "YMMV" means knows so much about the law. How long have you been here?

Here's another post that shows how much common sense you have. Girls do this stuff all the time to sabotage one another.

TBYT (think before you type).

So I'm not allowed to post on here cause I didn't know what YMMV meant? Actually I did know what it meant. I never asked what it means. So that's false. I probably now the law better than you cause I'm study it.

[MetroRider]

Definitely a bad tone on here lately. Lots of wanting to call each other out.

You're just upset because someone called you out for having 500 posts of nothing.

[MetroRider]

Totally agree. You are under no obligation to talk to cops. Most lawyers will tell you that. What can you be charged with if you refuse to answer their questions? Sure they may try to trick you and act like the good guy but, don't be fooled!! They aren't your friends. Just be calm and cool but assert your rights when need to.

I'm sorry but what's YMMV mean?

I love how a guy that doesn't know what "YMMV" means knows so much about the law. How long have you been here?

Be safe please. But at the same time, why would anyone advertise this kinda thing to the whole world? Way TMI!

They never do, that's why posting something like that is an STD infraction. It's ALWAYS somebody posting it to fuck with a chick. Expimp, competition, some guy who's pissed. It's always, 100% of the time a lie

A2

Here's another post that shows how much common sense you have. Girls do this stuff all the time to sabotage one another.

TBYT (think before you type).

[MetroRider]

In my experience and in talking with SPs over the years it is very common for many (especially escorts) to change hotels every couple days. They do it both to cover more area (geographically) and to reduce suspicion of traffic coming to their room. Those who I know and have seen that use a private residence are pretty low volume and offer no short stay appointments. If you have a private massage studio set up that's a bit different. However, "massage" providers are using the cover of a "legitimate" and legal business. This "cover" will also offer any john the opportunity (if needed) to tell LEO exactly that, "I went in for and received a message. ".

I couldn't agree with you more regarding admissions to criminal activity. Have a story prepared in which no wrong doing is admitted (as someone else previously mentioned). Tell them you stopped by to pick up the lady of the house for a lunch or dinner date only to have her cancel. Be a little upset for how she ended up wasting your time. Other than that you don't know anything. Sorry, don't know her that well, was hoping to get to know her better but it didn't work out that way.

Very well said Perusing. I think the problem here is most of these guys have no idea about the "deep" hobby. They think BP is the only source for escorts. I bet 90% of the men here don't even know how the reference system works.

[MetroRider]

I once went to an incall in Warren. I walked into the room and walked right back out because the girl was a hot mess. About a mile down the road I was pulled over and asked what I was doing at the hotel. I told the cop that my boss asked me to stop by and check on a co-worker who was living there, he was a no call no show for the last three days. The cop didn't believe me and wrote me a ticket for three moving violations, failure to stop upon leaving private property, not using my turning signal, and speeding. The tickets were total bullshit. I stopped, used my turning signal, and I wasn't speeding. If you think for a second the cops won't lie to make their job easier you're wrong. If they can lie and say you were speeding when you weren't, they could easily lie and say you called him every name in the book and arrest you for disorderly conduct.

I find it funny how the guys who have never even been handcuffed think they know so much about the law. Trust me that way of thinking will change after a night or two in jail. Sure you don't have to talk to the cops, but the cops don't have to tell the truth either.

[MightyMonger]

It's our right not to say anything. It's not just a TV thing. Sure, cops get mad when you challenge their authority. Why would we be arrested or charged with disorderly conduct for invoking our constitutional rights. Even Jessica Cooper wouldn't do that. Besides, this is a forum about sex. You should consult the free legal forum or better yet, the ACLU website for information pertaining to our rights or abuse of our rights under the law.

Spend a few hundred buck and ask an attorney that question, maybe you will believe him.

[MightyMonger]

Totally agree. You are under no obligation to talk to cops. Most lawyers will tell you that. What can you be charged with if you refuse to answer their questions? Sure they may try to trick you and act like the good guy but, don't be fooled!! They aren't your friends. Just be calm and cool but assert your rights when need to.

Disorderly conduct, its a misdemeanor crime but still punishable by up to 93 days in jail and a 500 dollar fine.

[MightyMonger]

You know, MightyMonger, I was going to write a substantive response but decided against it since you obviously wouldn't understand it anyway. In your original post, if you meant "talk to the cops *but don't admit to anything*", that would have been more coherent than simply saying "talk to the cops". After all, if you're pulled over, the cops are not going to be asking about the weather or last night's game score. Rather, they're going to be asking where you've been, why are you there, who did you see, what did you do? Those are what you're going to have to be talking to the cops about! Yet the only advice you gave in your post was to "talk to the cops". The reality therefore is that at best your advice was incoherent in context and in any event flat out wrong as stated. Moreover, your prediction that politely asserting a Fifth Amendment privilege and declining to answer will earn you 3 days in a jail cell to force you to talk is ignorant to the point of preposterousness. I might be more inclined to agree with you if one added the word "Asshole" at the end of the sentence claiming the privilege. However, politely claiming the privilege is not going to get you carted off to jail for 3 days! It's absurd and will not happen.

Try not to keep forgetting to take your meds, Buddy.

Spaguy45, you are absolutely correct. I should have put more detail into my original post. Also, rereading my second post it did start off somewhat dick-head-ish. I apologize for that, it wasn't meant that way.

[Tiger0033]

You know, MightyMonger, I was going to write a substantive response but decided against it since you obviously wouldn't understand it anyway. In your original post, if you meant "talk to the cops *but don't admit to anything*", that would have been more coherent than simply saying "talk to the cops". After all, if you're pulled over, the cops are not going to be asking about the weather or last night's game score. Rather, they're going to be asking where you've been, why are you there, who did you see, what did you do? Those are what you're going to have to be talking to the cops about! Yet the only advice you gave in your post was to "talk to the cops". The reality therefore is that at best your advice was incoherent in context and in any event flat out wrong as stated. Moreover, your prediction that politely asserting a Fifth Amendment privilege and declining to answer will earn you 3 days in a jail cell to force you to talk is ignorant to the point of preposterousness. I might be more inclined to agree with you if one added the word "Asshole" at the end of the sentence claiming the privilege. However, politely claiming the privilege is not going to get you carted off to jail for 3 days! It's absurd and will not happen.

Try not to keep forgetting to take your meds, Buddy.

Totally agree. You are under no obligation to talk to cops. Most lawyers will tell you that. What can you be charged with if you refuse to answer their questions? Sure they may try to trick you and act like the good guy but, don't be fooled!! They aren't your friends. Just be calm and cool but assert your rights when need to.

[Perusing]

MightyMonger, I respectfully disagree with your comment. First of all, how practical is it to expect a provider to change her location every other day? I guess if we're talking SW's it theoretically might work but seems to me to be highly impractical and virtually impossible if we're talking an incall massage provider or escort. On the contrary, I think of it as a positive that they're able to maintain a stable "place of business".

In my experience and in talking with SPs over the years it is very common for many (especially escorts) to change hotels every couple days. They do it both to cover more area (geographically) and to reduce suspicion of traffic coming to their room. Those who I know and have seen that use a private residence are pretty low volume and offer no short stay appointments. If you have a private massage studio set up that's a bit different. However, "massage" providers are using the cover of a "legitimate" and legal business. This "cover" will also offer any john the opportunity (if needed) to tell LEO exactly that, "I went in for and received a message. ".

Re your comments about "talking" to the "cops" if stopped after leaving a provider, admitting to criminal conduct is about the worst thing you can do. First of all, no jurisdiction is likely to lock someone up for 3 days for this kind of a investigation just to try to make them talk. They'll get sued up the wazoo. After all, it's not murder 1 or armed robbery that they're investigating. More importantly, it's overwhelmingly unlikely that they would have probable cause to arrest you UNLESS you give it to them yourself. The bottom line is that admitting to criminal conduct WILL get you arrested but not making admissions of such conduct probably will keep you FROM being arrested.

No disrespect intended in any of this. I just see it very differently.

I couldn't agree with you more regarding admissions to criminal activity. Have a story prepared in which no wrong doing is admitted (as someone else previously mentioned). Tell them you stopped by to pick up the lady of the house for a lunch or dinner date only to have her cancel. Be a little upset for how she ended up wasting your time. Other than that you don't know anything. Sorry, don't know her that well, was hoping to get to know her better but it didn't work out that way.

[Spaguy45]

Spaguy45, please show me where in my post where it says to tell the truth (admit anything). What I'm saying is, if a LEO asks you a few questions and you tell him "I have the right to remain silent" because you saw it on TV, odds are he's going to F with you. Sure he's not going to charge you with murder, but he can charge you with disorderly conduct (punishable by up to 93 days in jail and a 500 dollar fine). He can then arrest you, take you to the police station and hold you for 72 hours (3 days) before letting you make a phone call. What are you going to tell your wife, job, etc, where you have been for the last 3 days? Now I know you think you're going to sue the police up the wazoo, but let me share this with you. The police report isn't going to say what happened, it's going to say what the LEO wants it to say. Yes, he is going to lie his ass off just to cover his ass and stick it to you. Now I'm not saying this will happen in every case, but it could and has happened. It's your word against his, who do you think the judge is going to believe?

The best advice I can give is, if you haven't passed the bar, hire someone who has. You sir need to talk to an attorney.

You know, MightyMonger, I was going to write a substantive response but decided against it since you obviously wouldn't understand it anyway. In your original post, if you meant "talk to the cops *but don't admit to anything*", that would have been more coherent than simply saying "talk to the cops". After all, if you're pulled over, the cops are not going to be asking about the weather or last night's game score. Rather, they're going to be asking where you've been, why are you there, who did you see, what did you do? Those are what you're going to have to be talking to the cops about! Yet the only advice you gave in your post was to "talk to the cops". The reality therefore is that at best your advice was incoherent in context and in any event flat out wrong as stated. Moreover, your prediction that politely asserting a Fifth Amendment privilege and declining to answer will earn you 3 days in a jail cell to force you to talk is ignorant to the point of preposterousness. I might be more inclined to agree with you if one added the word "Asshole" at the end of the sentence claiming the privilege. However, politely claiming the privilege is not going to get you carted off to jail for 3 days! It's absurd and will not happen.

Try not to keep forgetting to take your meds, Buddy.