Bareback Providers

[CreamPieGuy543]

Good Analogy. I've seemed to notice that provider prices in the last year have gone up just as much as the housing market (Percentage wise).

Yup. Either that. Or. Another recession strikes. The last one (morgage back securities bubble) . Disposable income went down and soon all the SPs who had banded together controlling the market, suddenly realized which side of the toast was buttered. First the backbiting started and very soon after they were standing in line offering BB like it was going out of style. I mean they did ANYTHING needed to hold on our wallets. It was actually quiet funny. I was seeing 4-5 women a week (I did my part to help America recover) and still had a wad of cash left over for 420 and munchies. .

[Mojo567]

I think this site is helping by having this thread and we're helping by participating. Ultimately, what providers do and charge is determined by the market. If enough hobbyists are willing to pay exorbitant prices for limited-safety services, providers will continue to charge exorbitant prices. But if we as hobbyists stop overpaying for vanilla service as you say, providers will have to respond by changing their prices and practices if they want to keep working.

To be clear, I'm not advocating being a cheapskate; providers who provide great service should be paid well. But when I see posts where hobbyists state they paid $350-400+ per hr it infuriates me because that's just way too much, especially for a safety provider regardless of her menu.

Yup. Either that. Or. Another recession strikes. The last one (morgage back securities bubble) . Disposable income went down and soon all the SPs who had banded together controlling the market, suddenly realized which side of the toast was buttered. First the backbiting started and very soon after they were standing in line offering BB like it was going out of style. I mean they did ANYTHING needed to hold on our wallets. It was actually quiet funny. I was seeing 4-5 women a week (I did my part to help America recover) and still had a wad of cash left over for 420 and munchies. .

[Madmaxon]

Exactly! I started typing a very similar post yesterday and then got distracted with work and did not send it. TNA is clearly being influenced by a group of SPs (think Mob). Who are literally bullying the rest of the SPs and hobbyists into submission. They can now continue to provide extremely vanilla services and still get paid a premium for it. It is a win-win for them. Of course of this to work they have to be extremely effective and they have to have some leverage or control over the moderators to be able to run havoc. They are clearly in that situation right now. Unfortunately for us. The SPs have banded together, but the hobbyists are so frigging pussy whipped. They are going every sausage for themselves. We have lost our voice and any semblance of control over quality of service.

I'll get off my soap-box. But until this mob of SPs who swoop down and protect each other (right or wrong) is stopped nothing will change. The moderators need to lay down the law. No SP or hobbyist can "pile-on" on a review / complaint. No exceptions. If you want to praise an SP being called out, then start your own frigging thread. Don't hijack someone else!

This was all very predictable. I saw this coming the moment they monetized participation. In fact I posted about it there at the time. It used to be that review boards were for the hobbiests. Keeping us safe and protecting from rip offs. But now, in the eyes of the board owners, the providers are the 'customer' and we're the 'product' that they're selling.

[Horndog Man X]

That's one of the reasons I usually won't see providers who primarily use TNA. There are too many TNA hobbyists and safety providers who ridicule BB providers to such a degree they either stop doing BB or in some cases quit the biz entirely. Most TNA providers are already overpriced; eliminating BB providers makes that site entirely useless IMO. I understand if a provider won't do BB because it's her business, but she (and hobbyists) should also respect the right of other providers who are willing to offer it.

I suspect many of the safety providers who deride BB providers do so for entirely selfish business reasons. The safety providers know that many of us hobbyists won't see them if there are other less restrictive providers available. There are enough hobbyists and providers of all stripes for everyone. Why fuck with someone just because you don't like what they do? It's their business.

I know, right? A few years ago there were 2 groups, those who did and those who didn't. Now it's like 'those who don't' are afraid of the competition. Even Euro was requiring a cover for FS. And here we are. Only good news is that El Paso TX hasn't changed, can still BB multiple providers in a strip club. But yeah, Seattle has to step up its game. Don't get me wrong, I"m always ok with a provider saying "safe". I'll move on. But really? Dime'ing them out?

[EastlakeHorndog]

Exactly! I started typing a very similar post yesterday and then got distracted with work and did not send it. TNA is clearly being influenced by a group of SPs (think Mob). Who are literally bullying the rest of the SPs and hobbyists into submission. They can now continue to provide extremely vanilla services and still get paid a premium for it. It is a win-win for them. Of course of this to work they have to be extremely effective and they have to have some leverage or control over the moderators to be able to run havoc. They are clearly in that situation right now. Unfortunately for us. The SPs have banded together, but the hobbyists are so frigging pussy whipped. They are going every sausage for themselves. We have lost our voice and any semblance of control over quality of service.

I'll get off my soap-box. But until this mob of SPs who swoop down and protect each other (right or wrong) is stopped nothing will change. The moderators need to lay down the law. No SP or hobbyist can "pile-on" on a review / complaint. No exceptions. If you want to praise an SP being called out, then start your own frigging thread. Don't hijack someone else!

I think this site is helping by having this thread and we're helping by participating. Ultimately, what providers do and charge is determined by the market. If enough hobbyists are willing to pay exorbitant prices for limited-safety services, providers will continue to charge exorbitant prices. But if we as hobbyists stop overpaying for vanilla service as you say, providers will have to respond by changing their prices and practices if they want to keep working.

To be clear, I'm not advocating being a cheapskate; providers who provide great service should be paid well. But when I see posts where hobbyists state they paid $350-400+ per hr it infuriates me because that's just way too much, especially for a safety provider regardless of her menu.

[Mojo567]

That's one of the reasons I usually won't see providers who primarily use TNA. There are too many TNA hobbyists and safety providers who ridicule BB providers to such a degree they either stop doing BB or in some cases quit the biz entirely. Most TNA providers are already overpriced; eliminating BB providers makes that site entirely useless IMO. I understand if a provider won't do BB because it's her business, but she (and hobbyists) should also respect the right of other providers who are willing to offer it.

I suspect many of the safety providers who deride BB providers do so for entirely selfish business reasons. The safety providers know that many of us hobbyists won't see them if there are other less restrictive providers available. There are enough hobbyists and providers of all stripes for everyone. Why fuck with someone just because you don't like what they do? It's their business.

Exactly! I started typing a very similar post yesterday and then got distracted with work and did not send it. TNA is clearly being influenced by a group of SPs (think Mob). Who are literally bullying the rest of the SPs and hobbyists into submission. They can now continue to provide extremely vanilla services and still get paid a premium for it. It is a win-win for them. Of course of this to work they have to be extremely effective and they have to have some leverage or control over the moderators to be able to run havoc. They are clearly in that situation right now. Unfortunately for us. The SPs have banded together, but the hobbyists are so frigging pussy whipped. They are going every sausage for themselves. We have lost our voice and any semblance of control over quality of service.

I'll get off my soap-box. But until this mob of SPs who swoop down and protect each other (right or wrong) is stopped nothing will change. The moderators need to lay down the law. No SP or hobbyist can "pile-on" on a review / complaint. No exceptions. If you want to praise an SP being called out, then start your own frigging thread. Don't hijack someone else!

[Mojo567]

Yeah, that's no lie. She BB for sure, still does. She was cool when she was new to the board, now she's a super drama mamma. She likely does have some of her regulars but she has to have lost some of them. You know, they show back because of her prices. She's known for trashing some of her regulars behind their back. You do have do like a fairly long appointment or overnight to get it now.

Not surprised she still does, but thanks for the intel. I am actually on the fence about seeing her. Her bitchy attitude on TNA is actually pretty off-putting. Sooner or later most hobbyists on TNA will speak with their wallets if she does not realize this and change.

[TimeTourist]

Hmm, anyone else has intel? I got no response to text. Wondering if it's bait and switch.

She straight up told me no she doesn't do that in text today. Perhaps too many people inquiring all at once. Now I'm glad I didn't go after the bait / switch post.

[EastlakeHorndog]

All.

Angelique, my usual BB / CIA provider in Seattle, no longer does BB. When I texted, she said no because of TNA (hasn't texted since). Then on Kik, said 'no' and hasn't texted since. Is someone dime'ing out the BB providers on TNA? If so, they suck, I hate them. Use to be I could BB Tammy2 times and friend, then Angelique the next day. Now. *.

Horndog.

That's one of the reasons I usually won't see providers who primarily use TNA. There are too many TNA hobbyists and safety providers who ridicule BB providers to such a degree they either stop doing BB or in some cases quit the biz entirely. Most TNA providers are already overpriced; eliminating BB providers makes that site entirely useless IMO. I understand if a provider won't do BB because it's her business, but she (and hobbyists) should also respect the right of other providers who are willing to offer it.

I suspect many of the safety providers who deride BB providers do so for entirely selfish business reasons. The safety providers know that many of us hobbyists won't see them if there are other less restrictive providers available. There are enough hobbyists and providers of all stripes for everyone. Why fuck with someone just because you don't like what they do? It's their business.

[ShavedKitties]

Careful with this one. I got the switcheroo when I went to see her. Older lady with a tummy instead of what's pictured.

Hmm, anyone else has intel? I got no response to text. Wondering if it's bait and switch.

[Fantasy Man J]

Hey guys.

Any intel on Karri?

https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?...-KarriAmbrosia

Green light my friends.

[ThomasHunter]

Dude really? She used to be soo cool when she was new to the board. Little fatty in her trailer park. She was a good appointment. But I never sampled the BB part with her. Now I find her a little bitchy and all mixed up in the drama. I think she has her regulars and does not really care about pleasing anyone else. Does anyone have any recent intel on if she gives it up?

Yeah, that's no lie. She BB for sure, still does. She was cool when she was new to the board, now she's a super drama mamma. She likely does have some of her regulars but she has to have lost some of them. You know, they show back because of her prices. She's known for trashing some of her regulars behind their back. You do have do like a fairly long appointment or overnight to get it now.

[Horndog Man X]

All.

Angelique, my usual BB / CIA provider in Seattle, no longer does BB. When I texted, she said no because of TNA (hasn't texted since). Then on Kik, said 'no' and hasn't texted since. Is someone dime'ing out the BB providers on TNA? If so, they suck, I hate them. Use to be I could BB Tammy2 times and friend, then Angelique the next day. Now. *.

Horndog.

[Mojo567]

Just finished up with her earlier today.

Bbfscip +100 over her normal.

Dude really? She used to be soo cool when she was new to the board. Little fatty in her trailer park. She was a good appointment. But I never sampled the BB part with her. Now I find her a little bitchy and all mixed up in the drama. I think she has her regulars and does not really care about pleasing anyone else. Does anyone have any recent intel on if she gives it up?

[Flyer99]

Like every guy who walks through the door leaves something in there that a baby wipe can't clean up all the way.

She's wide open on her menu including bbfscip. No greek on first visit, maybe on second. I didn't care. She's hot but not totally shaved and has a bit of odor down there when I saw her. Nothing pungent or overly bad, more like the usual sitting around for a bit in warm weather type odor.