Stupid shit in Columbia

[Muffmansc]

What's with all the white knighting? Are you her pimp or lawyer? Or are you just another fool with cash confusing decent sex and a few sob stories with an actual adult relationship? All you and any other client are to her is another donation, nothing else. If you came at her lousy, trifling ass with a sob story and no money, she'd drop your ass faster than the towelette she used to clean herself after she's done seeing you.

The fact of the matter is she fucked up. Now it's time to own up.

Not white knighting or whatever colloquial phrase you want to fill in the blank with. I've never seen or used her services so that's not going to happen. I just don't like bullies. That's my issue. From what I read he went over his time. An hr is an hr. I'm in a position where I don't have to settle for BP crack ho's that's not mt arena. If I were her pimp I'd have her raise her prices to avoid cheap ass entitled clients though.

[Joboy]

Wow- this board is totally off the rails. First off I agree with Lumberjack man- Pappa something seems wrong with you and your sense of entitlement. If someone schedules an hour- that's an hour and when the time is up the hour is over. I don't see how that's a point of contention for you. If you choose to chat or hangout during your time- that STILL USES YOUR HOUR. What if she had stuff to do or a sitter waiting on her? You pay for the time not what you do. If you choose to play video games or checkers with a provider- that's still an hour. I know some guys that aren't in it for the sex, more so just lonely and want the companionship of a woman- that's is what I consider a gentlemen. It's not being a gentlemen to waste someones time being polite only if you get to fuck them at the end.

And what you're doing now is extortion and blackmail- unless she agrees to two freebies. This won't go away? That's ridiculous- try coming to my business and get two people free things just because you had a bad experience and I already offered to make it right? You guys are being bullies and it needs to stop. If you don't want to use her services anymore then don't- I really don't think that would matter too much to her. I could understand your rage if she robbed your or something but from what you're saying- all she did was stay an hour and leave correct? Seems like services were rendered. What if a client can't get it up- is he due a refund or mulligan for next time? I think we're missing the fact that this is a business and you don't own these women- you're just "renting" their body for however long you can keep it up.

Secondly- Murph you are spot on. I see all these negative reviews on BP cumdumps & druggies but honeslty- if someone lets be inside them for $60 what do you expect? Seriously would anyone on here do a BBBJ or FS (in your ass of course) for that? If so get help. The one's that are doing that cheap obviously aren't in the best place in their lives at this point. Furthermore- they're doing quantity over quality. Imagine how many have been there that day / week before you? If you do the math- an intelligent "businesswomen" who is super attractive can get 300+ an hour- why wouldn't they if they could? They could see 5-10 clients a week and make as much as these women who have to bang 66 dudes or more to make the same amount. Let that sink in.

I'm beginning to think this board is nothing more than a bunch of cheap people wanting Ferrari's at geo tracker prices- you get what you pay for. Some on here *s brag about not paying more than $60 ever for service- I respect my dick more than that. Oh yes and shout out again to Murph on the MP's- those places are just waiting to bet busted, you visibly see or know that you're the next guy in line and who the fuck thinks a face tattoo is attractive?

I'm sure I'll piss some people off but this really had to be said- there's so much venom on this board anymore that I don't even read unless I want to laugh- there is no good information unless you're wanting to know which $60 crackhead didn't do a good job. Sad.

(mic dropping sound).

What's with all the white knighting? Are you her pimp or lawyer? Or are you just another fool with cash confusing decent sex and a few sob stories with an actual adult relationship? All you and any other client are to her is another donation, nothing else. If you came at her lousy, trifling ass with a sob story and no money, she'd drop your ass faster than the towelette she used to clean herself after she's done seeing you.

The fact of the matter is she fucked up. Now it's time to own up.

[Joboy]

Fellow monger from Charleston, but a frequent visitor to Columbia forum as I occasionally visit Columbia for business. Have been reading the posts on "Amanda Issue", and intrigued. Here is my two cents. Most seem to jump to conclusions with out knowing the hard facts that only Pappa and Amanda know. I am not going to fault either one without understanding the following:

1. When the appointment was made (no matter who contacted first) was the duration for visit agreed and confirmed by both? Looks like that was not the case. Mistake.

2. If the time was not agreed, based on the donation agreed and previous visits, what is the appropriate time for the donation?

3. Once she arrived at Pappa's location, did she spend time not attending to Pappa, but spent on her doing other nonsense (in the rest room, talking on the phone etc).

If she didn't waste time just on her, but spent the agreed (or appropriate) time with Pappa, I wouldn't fault her for leaving after the agreed time no matter if Pappa finished his business or not. But, if she wasted time and left Pappa hanging, then its her fault.

No matter what we want to believe, this business is about time, and time only. The donation is for time and both parties have to honor that. Yes, we want certain acts to be done within that time limit. But it is not necessarily the girls fault if we can't finish the business in that time. If the deed is not done when the time is up, a good provider will offer to stay and finish the business. By the same token, a gentlemen client will gladly compensate for the additional time she spent. That's how this game works.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

C'Mon. Doc, everybody here knows what we're donating for and it isn't time LOL. That time crap is a worn out legal loophole for Uncle LEO and Aunt Justice, that's all. I get so tired of ladies, especially​ high rate ladies like Amanda, using that bullshit as an excuse to give half assed service.

It's an all too common story around here. She took his money and generosity for granted and decided to pull a fast one like he was some kind of chump. And even after he offered an opportunity for her to make up for it, the idiot still wants to play games smh.

If Amanda or any other provider can't handle offering consistently good service, especially to regulars, then they deserve the consequences. It's really as simple as that.

[Pappa54]

Time is a factor, the provider in question did not stay the time she stated and chit chat was minimal with a few bathroom trips. And most providers that are return visitors know I compensate for extra time and also good effort. The issue was in my estimation, she pulled up stakes with no warning, faked a panic attack or something. And blew. Out. I had never had a bad experience with her before. Even gave good references to out of town guys previously. Bad judgement on her part. Some guys chalk up the loss with one bad review. I am not one of those guys. By keeping this subject live, it in a small way, teaches providers or maybe just her to finish the job. Overall time 35 minutes, time in bathroom 10 minutes, paying her driver up front 5 minutes, chit chat 10 minutes. It was her demons that lead to bad judgement. And bad just has a cost.

Peace.

Fellow monger from Charleston, but a frequent visitor to Columbia forum as I occasionally visit Columbia for business. Have been reading the posts on "Amanda Issue", and intrigued. Here is my two cents. Most seem to jump to conclusions with out knowing the hard facts that only Pappa and Amanda know. I am not going to fault either one without understanding the following:

1. When the appointment was made (no matter who contacted first) was the duration for visit agreed and confirmed by both? Looks like that was not the case. Mistake.

2. If the time was not agreed, based on the donation agreed and previous visits, what is the appropriate time for the donation?

3. Once she arrived at Pappa's location, did she spend time not attending to Pappa, but spent on her doing other nonsense (in the rest room, talking on the phone etc).

If she didn't waste time just on her, but spent the agreed (or appropriate) time with Pappa, I wouldn't fault her for leaving after the agreed time no matter if Pappa finished his business or not. But, if she wasted time and left Pappa hanging, then its her fault.

No matter what we want to believe, this business is about time, and time only. The donation is for time and both parties have to honor that. Yes, we want certain acts to be done within that time limit. But it is not necessarily the girls fault if we can't finish the business in that time. If the deed is not done when the time is up, a good provider will offer to stay and finish the business. By the same token, a gentlemen client will gladly compensate for the additional time she spent. That's how this game works.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

[DrSummer]

Fellow monger from Charleston, but a frequent visitor to Columbia forum as I occasionally visit Columbia for business. Have been reading the posts on "Amanda Issue", and intrigued. Here is my two cents. Most seem to jump to conclusions with out knowing the hard facts that only Pappa and Amanda know. I am not going to fault either one without understanding the following:

1. When the appointment was made (no matter who contacted first) was the duration for visit agreed and confirmed by both? Looks like that was not the case. Mistake.

2. If the time was not agreed, based on the donation agreed and previous visits, what is the appropriate time for the donation?

3. Once she arrived at Pappa's location, did she spend time not attending to Pappa, but spent on her doing other nonsense (in the rest room, talking on the phone etc).

If she didn't waste time just on her, but spent the agreed (or appropriate) time with Pappa, I wouldn't fault her for leaving after the agreed time no matter if Pappa finished his business or not. But, if she wasted time and left Pappa hanging, then its her fault.

No matter what we want to believe, this business is about time, and time only. The donation is for time and both parties have to honor that. Yes, we want certain acts to be done within that time limit. But it is not necessarily the girls fault if we can't finish the business in that time. If the deed is not done when the time is up, a good provider will offer to stay and finish the business. By the same token, a gentlemen client will gladly compensate for the additional time she spent. That's how this game works.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

[Admin2]

I moved this convo here because it's not really about Backpage. Nobody was fucking up, no flags were thrown no whistles blown.

A2

[Pappa54]

Keep in mind, I am simply asking that the regulars bypass the opportunity. This is a strange offering I have come up with, but it can be good for all parties. I am not partaking, but simply setting up the opportunity. I have had several PM's from members that have never seen Amanda. That is an opportunity for her to expand her regular customer base. Some of you seem to have skipped over the part of these diatribes that I actually respect Amanda due to intelligence and have experienced first hand her attentiveness. Although she is off my list (again I am not participating in recompense), she could be on others with outstanding results from this. I have not heard from her since yesterday when she agreed to the terms laid out. At this point, I am starting to doubt she will. And that simply means she is bypassing on an opportunity for new clients, goods reviews, a following of hobbyists what would applaud her facing he issue with gusto and stopping dead any further damage to her community reputation, trading it all by just blowing it off as if it doesn't matter (probably getting bad advice for others that provide or some regulars that are infatuated).

Doesn't matter to me, this is a sport now.

But to your point Coach, One timers will be considered, especially Senior members. So the opportunity is still live, unless Amanda goes dark.

Peace brothers.

Pappa54.

Thanks for the vote of confidence but I've already seen Amanda (and posted my review) and would not qualify under Pappa's rules. I agree it should be someone not already seeing her.

Coach.

[ScCoach]

Thanks for the vote of confidence but I've already seen Amanda (and posted my review) and would not qualify under Pappa's rules. I agree it should be someone not already seeing her.

Coach.

Pappa,

That is an original idea. Don't know if they fit your qualifications, but Murphy 69 and SCCoach sound like viable options and since they are constant and reliable posters, hell I'm all for them getting a freebie.

AR.

Just my 2 cents.

[OiledUpTits]

Pappa.

I think some people may be confused when you use the word freebie. When you said freebie, I took it as YOU were paying for two other people so that it's a freebie to them and not a freebie FROM Amanda. Is that correct? If so I think some people are confused as to what this freebie is.

[Pappa54]

Brother, first and foremost your opinion of the subject is yours. I have no issues with opinions. Secondly, there was no time issued and I listen, more than chat. Again, original post, no time just a job, and I didn't initiate anything. Third the gentleman comment is personal view and action, nothing more. Fourth, I own 2 relatively successful business. When you contract an employee and pay them for a job, but they don't do the job as a businessman, you can write off, or expect them to finish it at there expense, or bring it to everyone's attention that it is sub-standard work that was done. The contractor can ignore it, or offer to repair it. At that point it is the employers call on what should be done to satisfy the situation. Fifth, the actions were in the realm of robbery as that she got the money, but didn't complete the job. Sixth, blackmail / extortion probably close, my terms for reparation can be ignored or fulfilled. Her choice. Seventh, it is a business. Go to a place for a set of new tires, pay them, they put on three and then say we are done. Or hire someone to paint your house, pay them, they finish half way through and say ok I'm done, got to go. If you are a businessman, you understand good service and bad service. I know I do, and have owned and run business for 30 years. She did agree to two freebies by the way. But also notice, hey are freebies for me. This is a situation where "enough is enough" and I am participating in this and trying to be constructive. Your opinion is yours, and I am good with it. Being abrasive is not productive, you may think this tact is distasteful, but it is creative and gets to the point. Finally, bullies no. There are to many examples of this issue with her and many with others that never get resolved and keep happening. This is just a different tact to correct misdeeds. If you have a better idea, through it out. All comments are welcome. If you are a fan of Amanda's go see her two or three times a week. This has effected her business. She will appreciate it. And closing, the board is what you put into it. If you don't like it, lobby to change it.

Peace

Pappa54

And what you're doing now is extortion and blackmail- unless she agrees to two freebies. This won't go away? That's ridiculous- try coming to my business and get two people free things just because you had a bad experience and I already offered to make it right? You guys are being bullies and it needs to stop. If you don't want to use her services anymore then don't- I really don't think that would matter too much to her. I could understand your rage if she robbed your or something but from what you're saying- all she did was stay an hour and leave correct? Seems like services were rendered. What if a client can't get it up- is he due a refund or mulligan for next time? I think we're missing the fact that this is a business and you don't own these women- you're just "renting" their body for however long you can keep it up.

Secondly- Murph you are spot on. I see all these negative reviews on BP cumdumps & druggies but honeslty- if someone lets be inside them for $60 what do you expect? Seriously would anyone on here do a BBBJ or FS (in your ass of course) for that? If so get help. The one's that are doing that cheap obviously aren't in the best place in their lives at this point. Furthermore- they're doing quantity over quality. Imagine how many have been there that day / week before you? If you do the math- an intelligent "businesswomen" who is super attractive can get 300+ an hour- why wouldn't they if they could? They could see 5-10 clients a week and make as much as these women who have to bang 66 dudes or more to make the same amount. Let that sink in.

I'm beginning to think this board is nothing more than a bunch of cheap people wanting Ferrari's at geo tracker prices- you get what you pay for. Some on here *s brag about not paying more than $60 ever for service- I respect my dick more than that. Oh yes and shout out again to Murph on the MP's- those places are just waiting to bet busted, you visibly see or know that you're the next guy in line and who the fuck thinks a face tattoo is attractive?

I'm sure I'll piss some people off but this really had to be said- there's so much venom on this board anymore that I don't even read unless I want to laugh- there is no good information unless you're wanting to know which $60 crackhead didn't do a good job. Sad.

(mic dropping sound).

[NutsForYours]

Wow- this board is totally off the rails. First off I agree with Lumberjack man- Pappa something seems wrong with you and your sense of entitlement. If someone schedules an hour- that's an hour and when the time is up the hour is over. I don't see how that's a point of contention for you. If you choose to chat or hangout during your time- that STILL USES YOUR HOUR. What if she had stuff to do or a sitter waiting on her? You pay for the time not what you do. If you choose to play video games or checkers with a provider- that's still an hour. I know some guys that aren't in it for the sex, more so just lonely and want the companionship of a woman- that's is what I consider a gentlemen. It's not being a gentlemen to waste someones time being polite only if you get to fuck them at the end.

And what you're doing now is extortion and blackmail- unless she agrees to two freebies. This won't go away? That's ridiculous- try coming to my business and get two people free things just because you had a bad experience and I already offered to make it right? You guys are being bullies and it needs to stop. If you don't want to use her services anymore then don't- I really don't think that would matter too much to her. I could understand your rage if she robbed your or something but from what you're saying- all she did was stay an hour and leave correct? Seems like services were rendered. What if a client can't get it up- is he due a refund or mulligan for next time? I think we're missing the fact that this is a business and you don't own these women- you're just "renting" their body for however long you can keep it up.

Secondly- Murph you are spot on. I see all these negative reviews on BP cumdumps & druggies but honeslty- if someone lets be inside them for $60 what do you expect? Seriously would anyone on here do a BBBJ or FS (in your ass of course) for that? If so get help. The one's that are doing that cheap obviously aren't in the best place in their lives at this point. Furthermore- they're doing quantity over quality. Imagine how many have been there that day / week before you? If you do the math- an intelligent "businesswomen" who is super attractive can get 300+ an hour- why wouldn't they if they could? They could see 5-10 clients a week and make as much as these women who have to bang 66 dudes or more to make the same amount. Let that sink in.

I'm beginning to think this board is nothing more than a bunch of cheap people wanting Ferrari's at geo tracker prices- you get what you pay for. Some on here *s brag about not paying more than $60 ever for service- I respect my dick more than that. Oh yes and shout out again to Murph on the MP's- those places are just waiting to bet busted, you visibly see or know that you're the next guy in line and who the fuck thinks a face tattoo is attractive?

I'm sure I'll piss some people off but this really had to be said- there's so much venom on this board anymore that I don't even read unless I want to laugh- there is no good information unless you're wanting to know which $60 crackhead didn't do a good job. Sad.

(mic dropping sound).

Right on!, Dittos!, etc.

[Muffmansc]

Wow- this board is totally off the rails. First off I agree with Lumberjack man- Pappa something seems wrong with you and your sense of entitlement. If someone schedules an hour- that's an hour and when the time is up the hour is over. I don't see how that's a point of contention for you. If you choose to chat or hangout during your time- that STILL USES YOUR HOUR. What if she had stuff to do or a sitter waiting on her? You pay for the time not what you do. If you choose to play video games or checkers with a provider- that's still an hour. I know some guys that aren't in it for the sex, more so just lonely and want the companionship of a woman- that's is what I consider a gentlemen. It's not being a gentlemen to waste someones time being polite only if you get to fuck them at the end.

And what you're doing now is extortion and blackmail- unless she agrees to two freebies. This won't go away? That's ridiculous- try coming to my business and get two people free things just because you had a bad experience and I already offered to make it right? You guys are being bullies and it needs to stop. If you don't want to use her services anymore then don't- I really don't think that would matter too much to her. I could understand your rage if she robbed your or something but from what you're saying- all she did was stay an hour and leave correct? Seems like services were rendered. What if a client can't get it up- is he due a refund or mulligan for next time? I think we're missing the fact that this is a business and you don't own these women- you're just "renting" their body for however long you can keep it up.

Secondly- Murph you are spot on. I see all these negative reviews on BP cumdumps & druggies but honeslty- if someone lets be inside them for $60 what do you expect? Seriously would anyone on here do a BBBJ or FS (in your ass of course) for that? If so get help. The one's that are doing that cheap obviously aren't in the best place in their lives at this point. Furthermore- they're doing quantity over quality. Imagine how many have been there that day / week before you? If you do the math- an intelligent "businesswomen" who is super attractive can get 300+ an hour- why wouldn't they if they could? They could see 5-10 clients a week and make as much as these women who have to bang 66 dudes or more to make the same amount. Let that sink in.

I'm beginning to think this board is nothing more than a bunch of cheap people wanting Ferrari's at geo tracker prices- you get what you pay for. Some on here *s brag about not paying more than $60 ever for service- I respect my dick more than that. Oh yes and shout out again to Murph on the MP's- those places are just waiting to bet busted, you visibly see or know that you're the next guy in line and who the fuck thinks a face tattoo is attractive?

I'm sure I'll piss some people off but this really had to be said- there's so much venom on this board anymore that I don't even read unless I want to laugh- there is no good information unless you're wanting to know which $60 crackhead didn't do a good job. Sad.

(mic dropping sound).

[DongQuixote]

Pappa,

That is an original idea. Don't know if they fit your qualifications, but Murphy 69 and SCCoach sound like viable options and since they are constant and reliable posters, hell I'm all for them getting a freebie.

AR.

Just my 2 cents.

[Pappa54]

Ok, Amanda here is the recompense offer and we have discussed it in PM and you agreed. But now you need to agree in public forum. This will do you well if followed through.

The offer and rules:

Amanda.

1) You must see two Senior members or trusted posters of my choice for a 1 HR session of your best effort.

2) You must accept this in public forum as part of the recompense.

3) It cannot be a member that is a regular of yours. He must be new to you.

If you follow through you will be applauded for your effort I am positive, and will be on your way back and this subject will drift into the past. The members will speak positively for your willingness to correct the misdeed.

Members.

1) If you are considering being a candidate for this freebie you must PM me. All candidates will remain anonymous. Only the two candidates participating will be known when the time is right.

2) The candidates participating must post a review on the visit. Good, bad, or indifferent.

3) You can tip Amanda for the level of effort she puts forth at your discretion.

4) Seniors will be first considered, but all are welcome.

5) Candidates must carry themselves as gentleman and respect this process. It is not a "Your money, your rules" session. It is a "My money, my rules" session and I don't want to hear that you where a knucklehead. Just be nice, have good hygiene and have fun. Do not embarrass her for her mistake. There is no point and it will be unproductive.

The key here is that Amanda accepts this as the consequences of her lack of judgement. And if she does, whether you like her or not, it deserves a positive comment.

FYI. At the beginning of her career here (and I participated) she was very attentive. I had no problems with her performance. I know for a fact she is a smart girl. Her many post on BP have been very well thought out, and are really some of the best I have seem from marketing perspective and it shows her intelligence. She has had some lapses in judgement that have come back to bite her. But by accepting this offer, it will show her willingness to correct the issue to move forward absolved of the misdeed. Again, if she accepts and reviews are good, she should be applauded by all serious monger, hobbyists, and lurkers as it will prove she is a serious provider to this community.

So PM me and let's get this subject closed and we all learn from it. Amanda text or PM me and post your acceptance. If not, this will live on for quite awhile it seems and that will have additional negative effects.

Peace bothers.

Pappa54.

A real shame.

Met Amanda over a year ago when she first started here by publishing on Craigalist, BP with "Help me on posts such as 'I'm new, need money, blah, blah". She was fine and attentive then. Not now. She called me out of the blue, needed a call, low on cash. I had 1. 4 in the pocket (the bar had the rest), it was Friday and getting late and the whiskey was good to me that night, so I said sure. She came over, chit chatted a few minutes filled me in on a few things. We started and she is giving the "Moisture Missle" a spit shine. WELL "fuck me and call me Shirley", the girl pulls up and says times up and leaves right in the middle of lift off! WTF. She leaves me hanging. The girl use to be customer friendly, not any more, she reads this board, and she will read this. Girl that was not good. Never ever do that because it costs you in reputation. Gentleman, this is a Pappa54 "pass on Amazing Amanda" alert. Her demons have overtaken her. You never do that to a monger, he will pass the word.

PM if more info is needed.

Pappa54.

[Pappa54]

A2,

I am simply trying to point out service injustices, not rebel rousing. This market has some quality issues that should be addressed for the betterment of the community. The longer this subject lives, the better chance of providers picking up on the point that bad service is unacceptable and has a cost. Amanda (the provider in question) has stated she wants to clear this up because her business has been effected. I have an offer for her (if she takes it) that will demonstrate her willingness to correct her mistake. If she takes it (and it has to be in public forum) than it will be good for her, as she will be applauded for the effort and it will be good for everyone, as it will enhance the power of the USASG forum as a tool to be used.

Do you have any issues with this thought process? I welcome all comments in the subject, this is a learning experience for all that use the forum in my judgement.

Peace.

Pappa54.

Entitlement. Really? Explain.



I was going to do something about his post but I'm interested as well. I'm not sure he knows what that word means.

A2