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  1. #17120

    - (1) AMP in Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by BottleRocket12  [View Original Post]
    This article right here sums up the state of the hobby in Chicago perfectly. It's also why I'm done with the parlors. I have my legit places that I love and I have my motel girls. In 4 years of going to parlors, with over 200 visits, I would have to say that only 35% of the time was the girl under 40.30% of the time was the massage actually worthwhile and therapeutic. 25% of the time was the the HE non-mechanical and unrushed. And only really about 12% of the time was the experience so incredible that I couldn't wait to go back. These are poor numbers and I did my fair amount of research. Imagine what a casual hobbyist goes through.

    To contrast that with another city. In my visit to Philadelphia, I had 4 sessions. 100% of the girls were under 30.100% of them were attractive with a tight and fit body. 100% of them had a table shower, in fact, the girl showered as well. 0% of the time was the massage therapeutic. 100% of the time was there fucking involved for a total of around 130 dollars. So it's not quite the same thing as a standard Chicago parlor, but if this place existed in Chicago, it would be impossible to get a visit. The girls were young Koreans. They were model types. You walked in and mamasan directed you to a room. The girl would come in and you would be blown away by her looks. Then she would take you to the table shower. She would be in a bikini herself. She would wash you down thoroughly with heavy teasing, and then she would use a bucket to wash herself off really well. Then it was back to the room where she would strip naked completely, begin a mediocre to non existent massage, and then proceed to CFS. One girl allowed a facial, a couple others allowed COB.

    Now you see why those of us who have hobbied in other places complain so much about what we have here. The overwhelming majority of Chicago parlors would close if they were in Philly, due to lack of customers. They would be forced to go out and get actual talent. And now, with all these closures, the demand for the remaining places will skyrocket, the girls and the mamasans will be petrified of any customers they don't recognize, and they will likely all downgrade to DIY only. After all, a 10 to 20 dollar tip and no court trouble is 100% better than a 40 dollar tip and appearing before a judge. The HE parlor business in Chicago is over. This is the nail the coffin. There will be a fuckton of Chinese apartments, which are no match in comparison to the Korean place I described above, and will likely be targeted next. There will be a ton of 180 to 240 an hour places, mostly with Euro and American girls, who will proceed to upcharge on top of that for their Nuru's and whatnot. And that's all we are going to have, aside from 300 to 400 an hour escorts.

    It is, in my opinion, better to take a road trip once a month and experience other cities than it is to feed your hard earned to the remaining places here. Philly is a 12 hour drive. You could go in for the weekend and fuck your brains out and be back with a smile on your face for Monday morning, for about the same price as going to a parlor once a week, and dealing with mopey grandma's.
    I'wiill not coment on the state of the hubby outside of Chicago. But here, I believe, everything will return to normal soon, after the temporary hardships will be forgotten. We will have plenty of mediocr $40 -HE AMP, with middle aged, sleepy amt.

    BTW, as we all know, the majority of mts don't understand, speak, and read English, therefore, they would never find out about the present time turmoil, will not raise price and / or reduce services, especially for old, existing clients. Thus, I'd not worry too much.

  2. #17119

    Wow

    This article right here sums up the state of the hobby in Chicago perfectly. It's also why I'm done with the parlors. I have my legit places that I love and I have my motel girls. In 4 years of going to parlors, with over 200 visits, I would have to say that only 35% of the time was the girl under 40.30% of the time was the massage actually worthwhile and therapeutic. 25% of the time was the the HE non-mechanical and unrushed. And only really about 12% of the time was the experience so incredible that I couldn't wait to go back. These are poor numbers and I did my fair amount of research. Imagine what a casual hobbyist goes through.

    To contrast that with another city. In my visit to Philadelphia, I had 4 sessions. 100% of the girls were under 30.100% of them were attractive with a tight and fit body. 100% of them had a table shower, in fact, the girl showered as well. 0% of the time was the massage therapeutic. 100% of the time was there fucking involved for a total of around 130 dollars. So it's not quite the same thing as a standard Chicago parlor, but if this place existed in Chicago, it would be impossible to get a visit. The girls were young Koreans. They were model types. You walked in and mamasan directed you to a room. The girl would come in and you would be blown away by her looks. Then she would take you to the table shower. She would be in a bikini herself. She would wash you down thoroughly with heavy teasing, and then she would use a bucket to wash herself off really well. Then it was back to the room where she would strip naked completely, begin a mediocre to non existent massage, and then proceed to CFS. One girl allowed a facial, a couple others allowed COB.

    Now you see why those of us who have hobbied in other places complain so much about what we have here. The overwhelming majority of Chicago parlors would close if they were in Philly, due to lack of customers. They would be forced to go out and get actual talent. And now, with all these closures, the demand for the remaining places will skyrocket, the girls and the mamasans will be petrified of any customers they don't recognize, and they will likely all downgrade to DIY only. After all, a 10 to 20 dollar tip and no court trouble is 100% better than a 40 dollar tip and appearing before a judge. The HE parlor business in Chicago is over. This is the nail the coffin. There will be a fuckton of Chinese apartments, which are no match in comparison to the Korean place I described above, and will likely be targeted next. There will be a ton of 180 to 240 an hour places, mostly with Euro and American girls, who will proceed to upcharge on top of that for their Nuru's and whatnot. And that's all we are going to have, aside from 300 to 400 an hour escorts.

    It is, in my opinion, better to take a road trip once a month and experience other cities than it is to feed your hard earned to the remaining places here. Philly is a 12 hour drive. You could go in for the weekend and fuck your brains out and be back with a smile on your face for Monday morning, for about the same price as going to a parlor once a week, and dealing with mopey grandma's.

  3. #17118

  4. #17117

    This shit's fucked up.

    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyStankas  [View Original Post]
    So I take it if the mayor or the police chief is known to go in it's hands off? This sucks! Who the f are these gurls hurting? I mean has anyone gone in and seen the girls chained to the place or in leg irons? Ok yea sex trafficking is not cool at any age, however I really would like to research statistics on how much of this is trafficking and how much it is about the money!
    It's not like it's going to improve anything, for anyone. Except maybe someone's chances for a re-election. If anything, it will push more of the massage girls into the Apartment scene which are less safe and much more "trafficky" than the parlors. What's also fucked up is the supply is going down so the prices are going back up.

  5. #17116

    See that I believe

    Quote Originally Posted by Starks  [View Original Post]
    I hear the second time the old Singapore Spa in Arlington Heights was busted, it was because a woman on the town council, or whatever they have there, had hired a P. I to follow her husband and he ended up at Singapore. Then she ran to Tom Dart and he set up a sting and brought along a camera crew.
    So I take it if the mayor or the police chief is known to go in it's hands off? This sucks! Who the f are these gurls hurting? I mean has anyone gone in and seen the girls chained to the place or in leg irons? Ok yea sex trafficking is not cool at any age, however I really would like to research statistics on how much of this is trafficking and how much it is about the money!

  6. #17115

    No

    Quote Originally Posted by Chad213  [View Original Post]
    PM sent, better off on a road trip somewhere else, poor massage.

  7. #17114
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1268

    Douch Media *****

    Quote Originally Posted by NotDeadYet  [View Original Post]
    AKA: politicians and cops.

    Yeah, they sure do have the right priorities!

    More murders in Chicago than New York and Los Angeles combined, with over four times our population. We have stronger gun laws than any other state, but those geniuses say that even stronger ones are needed. Granted, the cops won't do what the politicians don't let them, but at some point, after not doing the tough jobs for quite some time, even the good cops will get soft ("Soft? And be reluctant to go after the more dangerous ones. Better to harass the Asian girls who can't fight back.

    As I recently posted under Lombard, massage Parlor Reports:

    "What -- you think that a Gang task force wants to actually go after gangs? Could be dangerous.

    "They only want bragging rights for belonging to a tough sounding unit (I'm with the Gang Task Force, muthafucka!) Only want to go after people who can't fight back. Bunch of pussies, and not the good kind.

    "BTW: We consider this to be almost 100% a victim-less crime. Consenting adults and all that. Are we really a free society if we cannot decide what to do with our own bodies?

    "The politicians say that the working girls are victims, and they must be right, since they make the laws. So, arrest the victims and take away their livelihood? WTF is the logic of that?
    O'Shea plans to announce the new ordinance at a press conference at at 10:30 am Tuesday in front of Seven Heavens Spa in West Town. He expects the new law to go into effect sometime this summer.

    "Luckily, it is not a problem in our community, but it is a problem in others," he said.

    If it's not a problem in "our" community why is so much time effort and expense being applied to it?

  8. #17113

    Places busted

    By the way, what were the places that were busted? They said 11, but only mentioned 7?

  9. #17112
    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyStankas  [View Original Post]
    Too funny and very true! Or that at the entrance there isn't an old grandma laying down on a bare mattress in a small side room! Yep I don't think anybody will have to be I d 'd. On another note all of these stings are about publicity for a municipalities police dept and or politicians. It does nothing to clean up human sex trafficking. I am still convinced that many of these stings are because some dudes wife follows hubby one day and he winds up at a place like this so she drops the dime on her own husband for revenge! Well if she kept her interest in him and made sex interesting again for him he wouldn't need these kinds of places! I believe providers are still taking most of their money from married dudes not getting any! I am not married and don't want to be or have a steady gf. I tell people I am paying for the time I don't have to be around them!
    I hear the second time the old Singapore Spa in Arlington Heights was busted, it was because a woman on the town council, or whatever they have there, had hired a P. I to follow her husband and he ended up at Singapore. Then she ran to Tom Dart and he set up a sting and brought along a camera crew.

  10. #17111

    Round Lake

    https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6142428495.html

    A surprisingly newish and nice house.

    Nice area.

    I did not wear towel and she did not mind.

    She massaged every neck bone and neck. She crushed my bones to fix my posture.

    Strangely, she kind of shook my body by massaging.

    When I was lying on my stomach, she shook my hips rhythmically. So, I felt I am having sex on a towel or something.

    This is the first time a woman offered HE in her own house.

    She took time to massage penis for erection and kept stroking it even after climax was over.

    A little bit of leg massage after that.

    Here is the shocking part.

    When I got out after tipping her, I saw a huge wedding photo with her white American husband on the wall of living room.

    And, I found a Jaguar parked next to my car when I came out.

    (I parked in front of their three door garage, not on the street.)

    I believe her husband grants this since I can see the facility has been there for a while (years).

    Massage $40 + Tip $60 = Total $100.

    In general, it was very unique experience.



    P.S.:

    I saw a lot of human body maps on the wall.

    She pointed and massaged all those on my face and upper area.

    If you have actual bone or back problem, she may help you.

    If you intend something sensual, just do not wear towel unless it's ready obviously.

    When I think about it, I should have not wore it at Grace's place since I had to search for it.

  11. #17110

    Kings

    Recently had a dream about going to Kings Spa.

    Was. Not good.

    The rub down was less than half assed because she was tired from w / e happened last night. I'm thinking maybe she should get a partner if working last night makes her too tired to even try to do a decent job the next afternoon. The moment we met she seemed uncomfortable (guessing me being a young chocolate man who "looks 18!" according to her had something to do with it. Even though I'm knocking on 30). Extras were painfully meh in all sense of the word.

    Again, could be because of her discomfort or maybe it's her normal, idk. YMMV.

    I think I'm done with AMP. Haven't had a good rubdown since I left San Fran and the extras there were better by a fat mile. Guess I'll try going back to LMPs.

  12. #17109

    Ald. O'Shea proposes crackdown on massage parlors


  13. #17108
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthBend  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys senior member from northern Indiana. I'll be visiting chicago tomorrow. I'm hoping to go to a AMP with FS and not just a HJ place. We got those here and kinda bore with them LOL. Let me know either here or pm. Damages isn't an issue. I rather pay a little more then go to bad place. I tried reading the forum but there is so much talk about wedding rings and other stuff I found it hard to find a place I would like LOL. I'm also not very interested in the apartment girl scene since I don't want to to thru the hassle of being screen since I'm only going for one day. Thanks in advance for any info.
    They all got busted. Sorry Chicago is closed.

    https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017...s-10-locations

    Article cites online forums. I guess we are our own worst enemy.

  14. #17107

    Tell It, Stanley

    Hit the nail on the head. 84 spas inspected. 11 closed. 178 violation of license, etc. issued.

    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyStankas  [View Original Post]
    Too funny and very true! Or that at the entrance there isn't an old grandma laying down on a bare mattress in a small side room! Yep I don't think anybody will have to be I d 'd. On another note all of these stings are about publicity for a municipalities police dept and or politicians. It does nothing to clean up human sex trafficking. I am still convinced that many of these stings are because some dudes wife follows hubby one day and he winds up at a place like this so she drops the dime on her own husband for revenge! Well if she kept her interest in him and made sex interesting again for him he wouldn't need these kinds of places! I believe providers are still taking most of their money from married dudes not getting any! I am not married and don't want to be or have a steady gf. I tell people I am paying for the time I don't have to be around them!

  15. #17106

    +1

    Right on the money!

    Quote Originally Posted by OFCharlie  [View Original Post]
    "It also puts other safeguards in place, including requiring all massage parlor employees are 18 or older. ".

    LOL. I don't think he needs to worry about this. If anything, there should be a safeguard that no women older than 40 are allowed to work in a massage parlor, other than being a mamasan.

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