Sugar Babies / Arrangements

[Makana9]

That's some good stuff their brother. Fricken Makana is savage bro.

I got to agree with you about the transition from AMP to SA. I still frequent my two favorite AMPs because sometimes a brother needs a good quick fix. But I love the "rush" of meeting someone new that's sane, just a "regular" person that you'd otherwise pass by on the sidewalk. My SO is great, no need to ruin that so just be careful on SA. This island is too damn small.

Good luck guys. Keep us updated.

If you check some of my earlier posts in different sections from Freebies to CL to others, always somehow been lucky. Do not get me wrong, I have gone through some bad providers, experiences with MTs, WSW, DTSW, Indies here as well as LA, Dallas, Chicago, and wherevers businesses has taken me. Truthfully like anything in life and especially my love to gamble and play big-time poker. Everything's a gamble, but you can narrow your odds if you trust your instincts and or do it with wisely means. OK, enough BS so called. How has the SA worked out, pretty good still seeing each other 3 times, sometimes more a week. As someone mentioned here, mutually balance with business advice and consultation from me for which their business is thriving in the DT area because of the density of people who use their services (will not divulge then some here will figure out who they are, sorry gang), mutual companionship with fwb where we have spent overnighters at my place and her place. Is it worth it? For me, yes because something different and not going to an Indie, CL, AMP, MT, I like it. Just me, and the sk and fk has been all 10's with lust, adventurist while cruising the island and beach. Trippy when she initiates many a times, but also loves to role play (her thing) from bad student to her wanting a massage to light bdsm. Exploring her naughty wicked wahine side as she tells me, and who am I going to grumble with. As Fluffy (Gabriel Inglesias) says, "SHOOTS" Her 30 m massage I am giving her turns into a sensual rub of kitty till she cumms and we are off to our G & P in the chambers. Enjoying it while I can, never know how fast things can change!

As for my friend, I told him careful, she starting to get clingy (his SA) and little more demanding. But knowing him, as what he likes.

Even had messages from the 2 that wanted to meet, what they would like to do with me, and after just messaging them playfully. Their demands of $5-$8 K a month, yea right! But the naked pics they sent was pretty hot, and not stolen! Those were all them after doing our regular online checks.

SA not for everyone.

[BallnChain808]

Aloha brother,

First of all, I am by no means an "expert" on SB and Arrangements. But, I did want to respond to your question, is the price really worth it? For me it is. I am looking for an attractive, sane, woman for a couple of hours of safe, discreet, no hassle, no drama pleasure each week. I am perfectly willing to pay more for this than what I would pay at an AMP because I am receiving more. What do I mean by more? For starters, my sugar baby may not be as gorgeous as some of the hot AMP girls. But, I get to play with her for hours, no rush, no mama knocking on the door, no chance of running into a client or colleague when I'm entering or exiting a condo at CC. I also would rather do stuff like DATY on my sugar baby who is only fucking me as opposed to my favorite AMP girls who fuck at least 5 guys a day, 6 days a week.

Sure, there are some really hot women on that site that are asking for "luxury import" prices. Shit, one of them wanted to charge me $500.00 to take her out to dinner and then out for cocktails later with no sex! WTF? And here's the hilarious part, she wasn't even that attractive!! That's definitely not what I am looking for. But, there are a lot of very attractive, down to earth, honest, hard working women on there as well. Many of them have families (husbands, boyfriends, kids) they have jobs, responsibilities, obligations, etc. The cost of living is so high in Hawaii and so many of them are realizing that a sugar daddy or two can make a big difference in their lives and hell, if that sugar daddy happens to be a great fuck, even better! How else are they going to pull in a second "paycheck" worth 2 to 4 grand a month for "working" less than 40 hours a month. Damn, that's better than most of them make if you break it down by the hour..

That's some good stuff there brother. Fricken Makana is savage bro.

I got to agree with you about the transition from AMP to SA. I still frequent my two favorite AMPs because sometimes a brother needs a good quick fix. But I love the "rush" of meeting someone new that's sane, just a "regular" person that you'd otherwise pass by on the sidewalk. My SO is great, no need to ruin that so just be careful on SA. This island is too damn small.

Good luck guys. Keep us updated.

[Surfer Ten]

I recently decided to move from AMP scene to SB & arrangements world. Regardless of how I look, so far I have gotten a good response which really makes me feel good.

The quote I have been getting is normally 3 x if not 2 x more than AMPs. I love the fact that in these arrangements how it is very straight forward and one on one interaction. I would like to ask all the experts here if that price is really worth it? I have an appointment set up for the coming week and my heart is pounding in excitement. What tips can you give me for my first time going in to SD arrangement?

Thank you as always.

Aloha brother,

First of all, I am by no means an "expert" on SB and Arrangements. But, I did want to respond to your question, is the price really worth it? For me it is. I am looking for an attractive, sane, woman for a couple of hours of safe, discreet, no hassle, no drama pleasure each week. I am perfectly willing to pay more for this than what I would pay at an AMP because I am receiving more. What do I mean by more? For starters, my sugar baby may not be as gorgeous as some of the hot AMP girls. But, I get to play with her for hours, no rush, no mama knocking on the door, no chance of running into a client or colleague when I'm entering or exiting a condo at CC. I also would rather do stuff like DATY on my sugar baby who is only fucking me as opposed to my favorite AMP girls who fuck at least 5 guys a day, 6 days a week.

Sure, there are some really hot women on that site that are asking for "luxury import" prices. Shit, one of them wanted to charge me $500.00 to take her out to dinner and then out for cocktails later with no sex! WTF? And here's the hilarious part, she wasn't even that attractive!! That's definitely not what I am looking for. But, there are a lot of very attractive, down to earth, honest, hard working women on there as well. Many of them have families (husbands, boyfriends, kids) they have jobs, responsibilities, obligations, etc. The cost of living is so high in Hawaii and so many of them are realizing that a sugar daddy or two can make a big difference in their lives and hell, if that sugar daddy happens to be a great fuck, even better! How else are they going to pull in a second "paycheck" worth 2 to 4 grand a month for "working" less than 40 hours a month. Damn, that's better than most of them make if you break it down by the hour.

I've experienced what you have so far with "transactional" prices starting at lows of $300.00 up to $500+ per hour. I've found some that will go lower and if you are lucky, you can catch some who are in tight spot that will do a session for less. I've also found that if you can negotiate an "allowance" type of deal, you will get way more bang for your buck. You need to be careful about allowances as it could be hard to collect if you pay in advance. It all comes down to trust though. If you find a good one, she'll appreciate the relationship and understand that she needs to take care of the goose that's laying all the golden eggs.

Like anything else, it is what you make of it. Spend the time reading profiles, correspond with ones you feel you have a connection with, meet the ones you like face to face and get comfortable with them before you make an offer. What has always worked for me is to be crystal clear about what you want and expect from the relationship and be sure that you completely understand what she wants and expects from the relationship. Have clear ground rules and you will avoid many problems. Never assume she knows or think she should know. Instead, always assume she doesn't know and make sure you tell her stuff like do not call me after 10:00 pm, if you really need to talk to me, text this code: xxxxxx xxxx xxx (or something like that) My sugar baby knows that I have a SO and I'm with her most evenings. If she needs to talk to me and it's after 10:00, she will block her number and send me a code we made up. I will know it's her and she needs to talk to me. At that point, I can make up an excuse to get out of the house (forgot something in my truck and need to get it) or I will text her and tell her I can't talk.

One caveat that a good brother warned me about, make sure they understand that you are not paying them anything on the initial meet and greet. I know it sounds amazing, but there are women who expect to be paid for the time they spend with you on the first meeting. Also, you never want to discuss price via phone, text or email. Always do that face to face and after you are comfortable with her. I have never heard of LE doing a sting on the SA site but they are smart and someday could put out some traps. Some dumb monger will get his ass caught by doing something stupid like texting "how much do you charge for a suck and fuck"? LOL!

Anyway brother, as I said, I am definitely not an expert at this, not handsome and no mo game like brother Makana LOL! But, SA is far better than any of the other (POF, AFF, CL, BP) sites I've tried by a long shot. Sure it does cost more than at the AMP. But, it's a totally different game so it's like comparing apples and oranges. I really enjoy it and still go see my AFTs at the AMPs once in a while.

Hope you find some winnahs!

ST.

[YzalMan]

I recently decided to move from AMP scene to SB & arrangements world. Regardless of how I look, so far I have gotten a good response which really makes me feel good.

The quote I have been getting is normally 3 x if not 2 x more than AMPs. I love the fact that in these arrangements how it is very straight forward and one on one interaction. I would like to ask all the experts here if that price is really worth it? I have an appointment set up for the coming week and my heart is pounding in excitement. What tips can you give me for my first time going in to SD arrangement?

Thank you as always.

[Makana9]

Sad to see that Brother FutSniffA got banned. He shared a lot of info with me and gave me some great advise for scoring on the SA website. I followed his advise and scored big time and for far less than I probably would have spent had he not warned me of the pitfalls and mistakes one could make with some of the more devious women on that site. I was really surprised at how successful I was on this site versus sites like AFF, POF and Tinder. So, while SA is a little pricey, my ROI has been totally worth it compared to those other sites. As far as the selection on SA goes, you can see from so many of the young hottie's profiles, many are just wanting sugar daddies who want companionship or arm candy and they say so straight off the bat that they will not be intimate. While I can't imagine I would ever be interested in paying top dollar for a hot 20 something year old for companionship, I am sure there are many guys who would so that's great for those brothers!

After contacting and corresponding with a few women I still hadn't scored. So, I started playing with the filters on the search function and was able to narrow the field to profiles that I thought had a better indication that they were looking for what I was looking for which was simply a "mutually" beneficial arrangement with no commitments, no strings, no drama, no complications. This really helped and now I was fishing in very productive waters!

As far as cost goes, my experience as been quite similar to the other brothers who have tried this out. There was one absolutely absurd woman who wanted as much as $1,000.00 to go out to dinner with me and be arm candy. WTF? I have to pay you one grand to take you dinner at La Mer which I also get to pay for because you are such an awesome conversationalist and look so pretty? Hahaha! No fucking way! There was another who was married and said her husband knew and accepted what she was doing. She only charged $200.00 per hour to go to dinner or parties as arm candy. She was not bad looking but not worth $200.00 per hour as a dinner or party date. The lowest I paid for a transaction or "pay per play" date was $120.00. It was very simple and straight forward. We met for coffee, had wonderful rapport, ended up having lunch and exchanging phone numbers. She called a couple of days later and told me that she was sorry that she called but needed help making her rent. I asked her what she had in mind and she said I'll massage you and give you a happy ending for $100.00. I said hell yeah! So, she came over to my place, I got naked and she actually gave me a pretty decent massage. While she was giving me a very sensual HJ, I started roaming and by the time I reached her pussy by sliding my hand under her shorts, she was soaking wet. After rubbing her swollen clit a little bit, she was moaning and said, can you please fuck me? Hell yes, I can do that! We had an amazing time and all I had with me was $120.00 which she said was fine as we agreed on $100.00 and the fuck was a bonus! Hahaha! We saw each other several times after that and I paid her $200.00 per session which was a great deal for me as she'd stay for 3 to 4 hours each time. Way cheaper than an AMP and she was an incredible fuck!

Many women on the site want an allowance as opposed to a pay for each play type of "transaction" date. At first I thought I'd never agree to that type of arrangement as it could put me at a disadvantage in trying to "collect". But, I found a real gem and from an initial pay for play deal of $200.00 per play. I now give her an allowance of $500.00 per week. For that allowance, I get one entire day with her plus up to 2 "quickies" a week. On my day with her, we usually fuck, then go get something to eat, cruise around, maybe go to the beach or the movies, come back and fuck again and then fall asleep. Of course, when we wake up, we fuck again, then she goes home and I'm a fucking happy camper! My "quickies" are great because we'll meet up somewhere usually during the day, she'll jump in my truck and I'll drive somewhere, park and get a nice BJ, drop her off and it's back to work for me with a shit eating grin on my face!

Anyway, just wanted to share. Hope you brothers out there are getting some awesome results as well!

Much Aloha!

ST.

You found out exactly what I have been trying to say. It can work out, patience, filter like crazy, and some luck. I am still seeing the before mentioned in an earlier post here. I totally understand that the $$ price for most is crazy tough, But I now have a good friend and business cohort Thanking me because he tried and this past month and had the best weekend. I spoke with her too through text and other convo but was not my cup of jamba. He loved the hapamix, 30 something babette. I not. Going give out more info cause those on the SA going figure out easy who I talking about. Sorry SA braddahs, he said they going see each other because mutual, and looking between 400-500/ mo. For some, that is choke change, but for others they spending that much in MT w / he, AMP, indy, kb or vb and sideaction, so I see it the same way. For me, right uf, the stealth Hawaiian. I going 411 here, we see each other about 3 times a week before (more now because she and her roomate) started and now opened a business together and wanted a biz mentor (where I come "no pun intended). Helped them get the correct paperwork, SBA, ALK asst. , and negotiate good space lease w / o getting raped by the Bldg owner. Her friend wanted to put me on as a consultant salary, I said No. We keep business and personal separate, even though we did bang the hell out of each other in her newly painted office. She receives from me $1500/ mo. It is mb fwb. Works for both of us as we spoke. Nsa, fwb, that enjoy each others company, even though her good friend said to me, she never seen her friend so happy, and thinks she is love? Not! Her friend doesn't know, but I think she does. For Easter weekend, it did turn heads when they see a mid age guy with a dressed to the nines tight thigh high mid backless dress for dinner. Enjoying life while I can. Never know when things can change and bs happens. SA not for everyone to me.

[Surfer Ten]

Do you use a mobile app or website to filter them out?

Aloha KidFarian,

I just use the profile text on the website. Just type in stuff like mutual, benefits or fwb. It will find profiles with the key word in it. So, since I'm looking for a "mutually beneficial" arrangement, finding profiles with certain key words are so much better than having to go through every one. You can also filter by age, ethnicity, and lifestyle which is especially important if you are looking for more financially reasonable agreements. After a while you can get a pretty good idea of the person by their profile and the photos they post. It's easy to spot the ones who will try to take you to the cleaners. What I thought was interesting is when I ask each person I ended up meeting through this site how they found out about it, all of them said one of their girlfriends recommended it. The only one that said otherwise was that chick I met that offered the massage and HJ that ended up being a full on fuck. She said that she found the website while doing a Google search for "sugar daddy" after she saw an ad on Craigslist from a guy that was seeking a sugar baby. Hahaha!

ST.

[KidFarian]

Sad to see that Brother FutSniffA got banned. He shared a lot of info with me and gave me some great advise for scoring on the SA website. I followed his advise and scored big time and for far less than I probably would have spent had he not warned me of the pitfalls and mistakes one could make with some of the more devious women on that site. I was really surprised at how successful I was on this site versus sites like AFF, POF and Tinder. So, while SA is a little pricey, my ROI has been totally worth it compared to those other sites. As far as the selection on SA goes, you can see from so many of the young hottie's profiles, many are just wanting sugar daddies who want companionship or arm candy and they say so straight off the bat that they will not be intimate. While I can't imagine I would ever be interested in paying top dollar for a hot 20 something year old for companionship, I am sure there are many guys who would so that's great for those brothers!

After contacting and corresponding with a few women I still hadn't scored. So, I started playing with the filters on the search function and was able to narrow the field to profiles that I thought had a better indication that they were looking for what I was looking for which was simply a "mutually" beneficial arrangement with no commitments, no strings, no drama, no complications. This really helped and now I was fishing in very productive waters!

As far as cost goes, my experience as been quite similar to the other brothers who have tried this out. There was one absolutely absurd woman who wanted as much as $1,000.00 to go out to dinner with me and be arm candy. WTF? I have to pay you one grand to take you dinner at La Mer which I also get to pay for because you are such an awesome conversationalist and look so pretty? Hahaha! No fucking way! There was another who was married and said her husband knew and accepted what she was doing. She only charged $200.00 per hour to go to dinner or parties as arm candy. She was not bad looking but not worth $200.00 per hour as a dinner or party date. The lowest I paid for a transaction or "pay per play" date was $120.00. It was very simple and straight forward. We met for coffee, had wonderful rapport, ended up having lunch and exchanging phone numbers. She called a couple of days later and told me that she was sorry that she called but needed help making her rent. I asked her what she had in mind and she said I'll massage you and give you a happy ending for $100.00. I said hell yeah! So, she came over to my place, I got naked and she actually gave me a pretty decent massage. While she was giving me a very sensual HJ, I started roaming and by the time I reached her pussy by sliding my hand under her shorts, she was soaking wet. After rubbing her swollen clit a little bit, she was moaning and said, can you please fuck me? Hell yes, I can do that! We had an amazing time and all I had with me was $120.00 which she said was fine as we agreed on $100.00 and the fuck was a bonus! Hahaha! We saw each other several times after that and I paid her $200.00 per session which was a great deal for me as she'd stay for 3 to 4 hours each time. Way cheaper than an AMP and she was an incredible fuck!

Many women on the site want an allowance as opposed to a pay for each play type of "transaction" date. At first I thought I'd never agree to that type of arrangement as it could put me at a disadvantage in trying to "collect". But, I found a real gem and from an initial pay for play deal of $200.00 per play. I now give her an allowance of $500.00 per week. For that allowance, I get one entire day with her plus up to 2 "quickies" a week. On my day with her, we usually fuck, then go get something to eat, cruise around, maybe go to the beach or the movies, come back and fuck again and then fall asleep. Of course, when we wake up, we fuck again, then she goes home and I'm a fucking happy camper! My "quickies" are great because we'll meet up somewhere usually during the day, she'll jump in my truck and I'll drive somewhere, park and get a nice BJ, drop her off and it's back to work for me with a shit eating grin on my face!

Anyway, just wanted to share. Hope you brothers out there are getting some awesome results as well!

Much Aloha!

ST.

Do you use a mobile app or website to filter them out?

[Surfer Ten]

Sad to see that Brother FutSniffA got banned. He shared a lot of info with me and gave me some great advise for scoring on the SA website. I followed his advise and scored big time and for far less than I probably would have spent had he not warned me of the pitfalls and mistakes one could make with some of the more devious women on that site. I was really surprised at how successful I was on this site versus sites like AFF, POF and Tinder. So, while SA is a little pricey, my ROI has been totally worth it compared to those other sites. As far as the selection on SA goes, you can see from so many of the young hottie's profiles, many are just wanting sugar daddies who want companionship or arm candy and they say so straight off the bat that they will not be intimate. While I can't imagine I would ever be interested in paying top dollar for a hot 20 something year old for companionship, I am sure there are many guys who would so that's great for those brothers!

After contacting and corresponding with a few women I still hadn't scored. So, I started playing with the filters on the search function and was able to narrow the field to profiles that I thought had a better indication that they were looking for what I was looking for which was simply a "mutually" beneficial arrangement with no commitments, no strings, no drama, no complications. This really helped and now I was fishing in very productive waters!

As far as cost goes, my experience as been quite similar to the other brothers who have tried this out. There was one absolutely absurd woman who wanted as much as $1,000.00 to go out to dinner with me and be arm candy. WTF? I have to pay you one grand to take you dinner at La Mer which I also get to pay for because you are such an awesome conversationalist and look so pretty? Hahaha! No fucking way! There was another who was married and said her husband knew and accepted what she was doing. She only charged $200.00 per hour to go to dinner or parties as arm candy. She was not bad looking but not worth $200.00 per hour as a dinner or party date. The lowest I paid for a transaction or "pay per play" date was $120.00. It was very simple and straight forward. We met for coffee, had wonderful rapport, ended up having lunch and exchanging phone numbers. She called a couple of days later and told me that she was sorry that she called but needed help making her rent. I asked her what she had in mind and she said I'll massage you and give you a happy ending for $100.00. I said hell yeah! So, she came over to my place, I got naked and she actually gave me a pretty decent massage. While she was giving me a very sensual HJ, I started roaming and by the time I reached her pussy by sliding my hand under her shorts, she was soaking wet. After rubbing her swollen clit a little bit, she was moaning and said, can you please fuck me? Hell yes, I can do that! We had an amazing time and all I had with me was $120.00 which she said was fine as we agreed on $100.00 and the fuck was a bonus! Hahaha! We saw each other several times after that and I paid her $200.00 per session which was a great deal for me as she'd stay for 3 to 4 hours each time. Way cheaper than an AMP and she was an incredible fuck!

Many women on the site want an allowance as opposed to a pay for each play type of "transaction" date. At first I thought I'd never agree to that type of arrangement as it could put me at a disadvantage in trying to "collect". But, I found a real gem and from an initial pay for play deal of $200.00 per play. I now give her an allowance of $500.00 per week. For that allowance, I get one entire day with her plus up to 2 "quickies" a week. On my day with her, we usually fuck, then go get something to eat, cruise around, maybe go to the beach or the movies, come back and fuck again and then fall asleep. Of course, when we wake up, we fuck again, then she goes home and I'm a fucking happy camper! My "quickies" are great because we'll meet up somewhere usually during the day, she'll jump in my truck and I'll drive somewhere, park and get a nice BJ, drop her off and it's back to work for me with a shit eating grin on my face!

Anyway, just wanted to share. Hope you brothers out there are getting some awesome results as well!

Much Aloha!

ST.

[KidFarian]

Quick and to the point. I've been on SA for a week and met one got a HJ in my car on the first day, didn't follow up bc she's a bit bigger than I needed. She's probably available if you guys want to PM for her screen name. I'm texting five on my burner so I'll let everyone know how they go. A few have asked straight up how much and I started at $200 per, one said ok, others came back with $300 for a first meeting. I believe theirs some play available but I'm skeptical until I actually meet another and actually complete a mission. I'm supposed to meet one on Tuesday so I'll get back this week with more details. Wish me luck.

The Kid.

[SlappinBellies]

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