The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[John HandCock]

If a POT puts out a number like 800 - 1 k per date I would suggest simply saying "Sounds like you are out of my league. Hope you find what you are looking for" and then move on the the next one. The ones that put out any figure typically put out a crazy number for two reasons. One, if a SD meets her halfway (300 to 500) she still is sitting in the drivers seat. Second, for all she knows the SD could be a whale in which case is either clueless about the bowl or is filthy rich (or both). The POTs need to realize this is a risky bad habit to get into with the SA community. In general, negotiating $ before the M & G is not a good idea, but tbh I used to do the same thing my first 6 months on SA as I was transitioning from the escort scene. Most of us who played with the BP girls knew it was better to tie down the $ topic before we got to the motel. But with SA it is the exact opposite. For the past year I have learned never to commit to a $ number. After the romp in the FC if they are worth repeating I put $$ in a nice card. If they are not then I put $. 5 in a card. If you haven't done so yet then read the Richmond SA forum on this topic, especially with what JeezLizard has written.

I have found that agreeing on an arrangement right after or at the end of the m / g works best for me. If you go to the fc without an arrangement in place then the girl will have that on her mind during the fc. Plenty of girls have been scammed and taken by guys who do this. If your determining their worth an7 d they have no say in it then your taking advantage of it. No BP or utr hgirl wouldx allow you to do that. These girls are there for mostly financial help, they can be fucked for free by anyone they choose. Lots of guys claim that they do this but you never see a profile link to these girls that blindly get fucked but have no idea as to what they will receive.

[YayaGogo]

Interesting. First time I have ever seen her but says she has been on SA for 2 years. Sort of in the TGTBT category. If she won't respond then it could be your profile page or your convo approach. But lets face it a pic like this will draw bees to the honey, so why compete with the masses unless you have some unique advantage (32 year old stud with great pic, rich and famous, LOL) . If not then just remember it is only a pic, which for that matter could be a guy playing catfish games. But who knows maybe there is a brother out there who says she is legit. But my gut says she is not based on the pic what she wrote. I would simply move on to the next 100 POTS out there. Just sayin'.

Anyone ever meet with her? She just initiated contact with me out of the blue and gave me access to her private pictures, but I don't want to waste my limited time following up if she's not worth it. If any senior member has info PM me with details or just posting whether she's real or not will also suffice. Thanks!

Yaya.

[Aswerty9111]

If a POT puts out a number like 800 - 1 k per date I would suggest simply saying "Sounds like you are out of my league. Hope you find what you are looking for" and then move on the the next one. The ones that put out any figure typically put out a crazy number for two reasons. One, if a SD meets her halfway (300 to 500) she still is sitting in the drivers seat. Second, for all she knows the SD could be a whale in which case is either clueless about the bowl or is filthy rich (or both). The POTs need to realize this is a risky bad habit to get into with the SA community. In general, negotiating $ before the M & G is not a good idea, but tbh I used to do the same thing my first 6 months on SA as I was transitioning from the escort scene. Most of us who played with the BP girls knew it was better to tie down the $ topic before we got to the motel. But with SA it is the exact opposite. For the past year I have learned never to commit to a $ number. After the romp in the FC if they are worth repeating I put $$ in a nice card. If they are not then I put $. 5 in a card. If you haven't done so yet then read the Richmond SA forum on this topic, especially with what JeezLizard has written.

No one's gotten mad that $$ wasn't enough?

[StormyTuesday]

I threw out a much lower #. Then again like I said, I basically look for them to give a good dance since the clubs are atrocious around here. SO perhaps that has something to do with it. Not sure if I'm down for a meet to be honest, seemed a little strange / mysterious, that's why I'm looking for any info here.

If a POT puts out a number like 800 - 1 k per date I would suggest simply saying "Sounds like you are out of my league. Hope you find what you are looking for" and then move on the the next one. The ones that put out any figure typically put out a crazy number for two reasons. One, if a SD meets her halfway (300 to 500) she still is sitting in the drivers seat. Second, for all she knows the SD could be a whale in which case is either clueless about the bowl or is filthy rich (or both). The POTs need to realize this is a risky bad habit to get into with the SA community. In general, negotiating $ before the M & G is not a good idea, but tbh I used to do the same thing my first 6 months on SA as I was transitioning from the escort scene. Most of us who played with the BP girls knew it was better to tie down the $ topic before we got to the motel. But with SA it is the exact opposite. For the past year I have learned never to commit to a $ number. After the romp in the FC if they are worth repeating I put $$ in a nice card. If they are not then I put $. 5 in a card. If you haven't done so yet then read the Richmond SA forum on this topic, especially with what JeezLizard has written.

[ManishRaleigh]

Yea couple weeks ago out of nowhere I get message saying she's free with 2 friends and what I was up. It was a weeknight at like 10-11 ish I think. Don't know about you guys, but I don't like it when they roll in packs.

Thanks for the intel guys, really appreciate it. Yeah even I don't like when they come in packs. Cash and dash is very likely.

[Aswerty9111]

She can be flaky but potentially worth your time. Expect delays on replies and then all of a sudden several messages trying to set something up.

Yea couple weeks ago out of nowhere I get message saying she's free with 2 friends and what I was up. It was a weeknight at like 10-11 ish I think. Don't know about you guys, but I don't like it when they roll in packs.

[MedJohnson]

From my conversations with her she wants big money to meet. I recall it being around $8-1 k per date. Did she give you an idea yet?

I chatted her up and KIK with her some a while back. Got a bad vibe like a setup of some sort. Moved on to safer pastures.

Med.

[Righton1960]

She can be flaky but potentially worth your time. Expect delays on replies and then all of a sudden several messages trying to set something up.

My first message here.

Trying to set up M&G with Classyncute96.

Has anyone met her?

Thanks.

[Aswerty9111]

From my conversations with her she wants big money to meet. I recall it being around $8-1 k per date. Did she give you an idea yet?

I threw out a much lower #. Then again like I said, I basically look for them to give a good dance since the clubs are atrocious around here. SO perhaps that has something to do with it. Not sure if I'm down for a meet to be honest, seemed a little strange / mysterious, that's why I'm looking for any info here.

[Svt4628]

ELizRDU.

Seemed pretty cool over messages. WOndering if anyone has any intel to share thanks.

I did see TKP390 couple weeks ago, thumb down!!

From my conversations with her she wants big money to meet. I recall it being around $8-1 k per date. Did she give you an idea yet?

[ManishRaleigh]

My first message here.

Trying to set up M&G with Classyncute96.

Has anyone met her?

Thanks.

[Aswerty9111]

ELizRDU.

Seemed pretty cool over messages. WOndering if anyone has any intel to share thanks.

I did see TKP390 couple weeks ago, thumb down!!

[Righton1960]

Just wrapped up a several months long SB set up. So sorry I posted and then disappeared. I'm about a week in so far. I've got a new potentially LT thing on the hook in Asheville already but on the hunt for more low-key fun around here. I've got two M&Gs set up today and another tomorrow. I'd prefer to discuss with the smaller group of real SA users, though.

Also curious if why'all are using TOR or a VPN or something to mask your browsing now that thay GOP sold our privacy rights to AT&T and Spectrum.

[John HandCock]

In this case I'd say share them. You've got to be careful.

I shared my private photos with one of the girls in Raleigh today. She was one that I messaged and immediately got a request to view photos. LuGenchi or something like that is her name. I told her I only share private photos after a little conversation, but decided to share them anyway. The next message I got was "Sorry, I'm not attracted to you. " I couldn't help laughing. Way to let me down easy haha.

Rejection is part of the game for both. I have had that happen several times, send pics by text then never hear from them again. I personally would rather have a girl say what the problem was than just disappearing. I've had the not attracted to you to you look to much like my father LOL. Everyone is not a match and I don't take it personally, just on to someone who finds me attractive.

[Emeralddragon6]

So due to some cheerleaders at CCU not being discrete, the SA site is now in national news having an officer investigate them and conduct recorded interviews. I hope nothing comes of this but now we have it getting national attention.