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  1. #8240
    Quote Originally Posted by Nimda2  [View Original Post]
    I agree she is no hamburger but that is definitely not even close to being a $$. 5 filet.
    Could use a little mechanical Lance tenderizerization. You'll only get unwanted hormone injection if you forget to pay! I just can't wait to power up Lance into a Super Lance-Rio Brother with her little mushroom! Just hope there isn't a Fireflower on the other side of her. Don't need Super Lance-Rio glowing red and shooting fire!

  2. #8239
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1822

    Also

    Quote Originally Posted by Nimda2  [View Original Post]
    I agree she is no hamburger but that is definitely not even close to being a $$. 5 filet.
    I like my filet bone-in.

  3. #8238
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1822

    Oh I don't know

    Quote Originally Posted by Nimda2  [View Original Post]
    I agree she is no hamburger but that is definitely not even close to being a $$. 5 filet.
    I would put hot butter on it and eat it among doing other thing to it.

  4. #8237

    UTR Journey Pics: Priceless

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0324  [View Original Post]
    McDonald's has it's clientele, and so does Ruth's Chris.
    I agree she is no hamburger but that is definitely not even close to being a $$. 5 filet.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 5abfb97488b425e782564cb0b07a284d_f.jpg‎  

  5. #8236

    Oh holy hell. What provider hasn't flaked?

    Every great provider that was a permanent or temporary ATF on my list or on this board has flaked on me or others, often frequently. Ilapp's inbox used to be full of rants from me about a favorite hottie when I was hobbying heavily that I know bumped me several times for someone offering a multi-hour or some bonus. Hell, I was left sitting in my car waiting for her for far more cumulative hours than I ever spent behind closed doors with her. Even Abby was known for flaking on people, often due to Bob throwing her extra cash to get her to blow them off to see him instead. Andrea flaked on me the only time we ever set an appt (and I never saw her after) based on a false rumor about me after the SP8 incident, which was understandable in that environment at the time. But every single time I was flaked on, it was an "emergency". A problem getting the room. A kid going to the hospital. A stolen or broken into car. Or some other lame excuse. Every excuse was bullshit and no one would argue otherwise. In real world business, I set about two dozen+ appts per week, about ten of which cancel last minute or NCNS me altogether. "Family emergency" is the excuse 99% of the time. If 10% of the population of Indy truly had family emergencies everyday, the hospitals and morgues would be overflowing into the sewers. It's all BS.

    My absolute, no-one-else-is-even-a-close-second ATF has never visited here, and no one else local, to my knowledge, has ever met her to truly understand how great she is. But on a Q&A thread on a different forum used more commonly out East where she lives, providers were asked why they do this. No greater answer surfaced than hers and meeting her absolutely confirms her sincerity in this quote: "I'm here for the money. And I love to fuck. " So IMO, maybe a little honesty as in, "I'm in this for the money, and he offered me more" is a little refreshing versus all the other bullshit we've put up with.

    Journey has some things to learn, sure. She's a smart girl, a great experience BCDs and will figure it out eventually. Those that have met her, as opposed to those bitching about her because they haven't, get it and will repeat seeing her. Those that haven't, won't know what they're missing and can continue to ***** about it. The few of us that really know, will likely continue to sit back and laugh at you for it though. .

  6. #8235

    I don't recall ever disagreeing with Ilapp

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilapp  [View Original Post]
    When Ruth's runs a prix fixe special they don't take your reservation then call and cancel your reservation because some one called and wants that spot to order off the ala carte menu. Sorry, very bad business practice on her part. Her price can certainly be her price but she certainly shouldn't cancel a date she made with the deal she agreed to because she got better offer. That is certainly her prerogative also but then don't have a couple guys come on here shilling for her because her business is slow. Everything will sell at the right price in the market and good and reliable service will normally prosper. I am not saying her service isn't good, don't know, but it seems her reliability can be legitimately questioned it would seem. One other thing, and I assume this wasn't you buddy, but the pics in her new USA ad are not very enticing, I have seen much better candid shots of her. If she wants to market herself at Ruth's pricing, her marketing should reflect Ruth's quality and value. Ruth's ads are mouthwatering and they reflect a very fine piece of meat. I also get "frequent dinner" perks there for keeping a vault, like a free steak on my birthday. LOL, tell Journey if she wants some help marketing, my birthday is just right around the corner.
    You guys can really afford Ruth's??

  7. #8234
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1822

    Except

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0324  [View Original Post]
    McDonald's has it's clientele, and so does Ruth's Chris.
    When Ruth's runs a prix fixe special they don't take your reservation then call and cancel your reservation because some one called and wants that spot to order off the ala carte menu. Sorry, very bad business practice on her part. Her price can certainly be her price but she certainly shouldn't cancel a date she made with the deal she agreed to because she got better offer. That is certainly her prerogative also but then don't have a couple guys come on here shilling for her because her business is slow. Everything will sell at the right price in the market and good and reliable service will normally prosper. I am not saying her service isn't good, don't know, but it seems her reliability can be legitimately questioned it would seem. One other thing, and I assume this wasn't you buddy, but the pics in her new USA ad are not very enticing, I have seen much better candid shots of her. If she wants to market herself at Ruth's pricing, her marketing should reflect Ruth's quality and value. Ruth's ads are mouthwatering and they reflect a very fine piece of meat. I also get "frequent dinner" perks there for keeping a vault, like a free steak on my birthday. LOL, tell Journey if she wants some help marketing, my birthday is just right around the corner.

  8. #8233

    So True

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0324  [View Original Post]
    McDonald's has it's clientele, and so does Ruth's Chris.
    And both have a menu with prices and a place to sit down and enjoy a meal. I actually prefer Fogo de Chao. It's a smorgasbord of variety and the price is fixed per visit.

  9. #8232

    Not UTR and Inexperience

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyJohnson  [View Original Post]
    First time is intro rate as company acquires new biz. You perform and connect and then you can ask more. And let us give you more biz. That's the way to win. And cut a deal and go for it. Keep the higher paying sucker to the next in line. Or you piss off your potential customers and they will let others know. Business 101 and the girls thought they are smarter do not get it that's why they do what they do. Short term gainof $20 and long term loss.

    She posted here so it's a free business school lesson worth $100 k+.
    Journey is now advertising on USAAdultClassifieds, see link below, and she is responding to posts in this section so she is no longer a UTR. She has is now a full fledged main stream provider, but she is new with little experience and somewhat unguided. Hopefully she is astute enough to read the comments on the board and learn about her new profession. She can charge whatever $ she wants, that is her choice and her body. There are several providers who command a higher than normal fee like Aurora, Sashsa and Bre. These providers have a set price and give specials when needed. They also provider both Incall and Outcall. They verify their customers and have others helping when needed. Here are my observations in regards to Journey.

    Journey is trying to differentiate herself from the standard BP escorts thus the higher $ is one way to do it. As long as the service is worth the $ paid then business will continue. If a provider only wants low volume then higher $ is one way to accomplish that task as well. However Journey doesn't advertise her prices and based on the recent comments in this section of the board it seems that like she doesn't want to because she wants to search for the best $ deal of the day. That can be detrimental to future business especially for those hobbyists who don't like negotiating and their time is also very valuable. It's just bad manners to set up an appointment and then go silent because of any reason other than an emergency. She also only does outcall and this will cut into her business as well because many hobbyists don't have a place to date. Because she only wants to see "one guy a day", her words not mine, then securing a place to go cuts into her bottom line. This will also limit her customer base because the higher fee combined with a decent place to visit will also drive her market potential lower. It looks like she hasn't done much research into the biz and is still trying to find her niche. I sure hope she has a good source of verification to insure her safety as well. The one thing I found especially interesting is she posted her face pics on the internet when she was so UTR before. I think that is a rookie mistake but hopefully it's part of her learning curve.

    The key for any type of main stream provider service no matter what the $'s requested is: Price vs Quality of service; Reliable and accurate communication; Safe location and above all a Safe Provider AND Hobbyist. She will learn with time, I just hope she doesn't make a rookie mistake and sacrifice her safety.

    http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/147/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/21303-Experience-the-new-Journey-.html

  10. #8231

    $. 80 for a HH for that?

    I'll tell you now I have a way hotter chick in Lafayette that will do an hour at that price and is clean, yada, yada, yada and is total GFE and isn't stuck up on herself, you just need to make a trip to Lafayette. Screw these girls who they think they are high dollar, I don't give a shit if you smell like $200 perfume and carry a Michael Kors purse and have a video on Pornhub that makes you look like a stoned out clown sucking the meatsicle, just not going to get that coin from me. Pussy is pussy, I just like it clean and tight, period.

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyJohnson  [View Original Post]
    I got along with most girls and I am sure this is YMMV for every situation.

    I had good faith and contacted her a while ago and she was very good at communication. But from there it is all down hill for me: she upsell after we set a time and asking for $$. 5. After we settle to a price and be firm on the service and time, she went silent and until 60 min after the meet time, she texted said got someone willing to pay what she asked for.

    Got a text after a few days and I guess she was low on business and want to get my $$, but no, thank you.

    Respect is earned not a free thing.

    Also she is not a utr as She does post on hoxnif:

    http://independent.com.indianapolis.hoxnif.com/post/16933954/hoxnif.com#

  11. #8230

    Journey

    My gf and I saw her couple weeks ago. She was nice clean and compliant. Not a lot was on the menu for obvious reason (gf) but she was paid 2 bills. I referred her to a fine gentlemen on this board but she was too high for him. My gf suggested to her that she offer 100 half hour then 150 full hour like she did back in her day. We've called her a couple times but hit or miss.

  12. #8229

    Maybe some moron

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyJohnson  [View Original Post]
    First time is intro rate as company acquires new biz. You perform and connect and then you can ask more. And let us give you more biz. That's the way to win. And cut a deal and go for it. Keep the higher paying sucker to the next in line. Or you piss off your potential customers and they will let others know. Business 101 and the girls thought they are smarter do not get it that's why they do what they do. Short term gainof $20 and long term loss.

    She posted here so it's a free business school lesson worth $100 k+.
    Maybe some moron has been giving her advice, here's the thing, I used to fancy the Filet-O-Fish sandwich and had no issue with market rate, however; they started and occasional 2 for 5 deal, now I don't enjoy the sandwich unless they're running the deal, they devalued the sandwich to me.

  13. #8228

    Here is the deal and these girls do not get it

    First time is intro rate as company acquires new biz. You perform and connect and then you can ask more. And let us give you more biz. That's the way to win. And cut a deal and go for it. Keep the higher paying sucker to the next in line. Or you piss off your potential customers and they will let others know. Business 101 and the girls thought they are smarter do not get it that's why they do what they do. Short term gainof $20 and long term loss.

    She posted here so it's a free business school lesson worth $100 k+.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarodney  [View Original Post]
    She did me the same way agreed to see me then someone offer more money. I think she is way to high and she does see a lot of people. She's not utr. Just don't see why these guys pay that kind of money for her. Play safe.

  14. #8227

    Journey

    Quote Originally Posted by TonyJohnson  [View Original Post]
    I got along with most girls and I am sure this is YMMV for every situation.

    I had good faith and contacted her a while ago and she was very good at communication. But from there it is all down hill for me: she upsell after we set a time and asking for $$. 5. After we settle to a price and be firm on the service and time, she went silent and until 60 min after the meet time, she texted said got someone willing to pay what she asked for.

    Got a text after a few days and I guess she was low on business and want to get my $$, but no, thank you.

    Respect is earned not a free thing.

    Also she is not a utr as She does post on hoxnif:

    http://independent.com.indianapolis.hoxnif.com/post/16933954/hoxnif.com#
    She did me the same way agreed to see me then someone offer more money. I think she is way to high and she does see a lot of people. She's not utr. Just don't see why these guys pay that kind of money for her. Play safe.

  15. #8226

    YMMV and not my journey

    I got along with most girls and I am sure this is YMMV for every situation.

    I had good faith and contacted her a while ago and she was very good at communication. But from there it is all down hill for me: she upsell after we set a time and asking for $$. 5. After we settle to a price and be firm on the service and time, she went silent and until 60 min after the meet time, she texted said got someone willing to pay what she asked for.

    Got a text after a few days and I guess she was low on business and want to get my $$, but no, thank you.

    Respect is earned not a free thing.

    Also she is not a utr as She does post on hoxnif:

    http://independent.com.indianapolis.hoxnif.com/post/16933954/hoxnif.com#



    Quote Originally Posted by LapDanceLover  [View Original Post]
    I asked journey about meeting and I was told 180 for hhr. Is that the standard rate for her?? Seems high LOL.

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