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  1. #3672
    Quote Originally Posted by Wenger  [View Original Post]
    For that I would hope you would get as many pops as you could in the time you paid for.

    -w.
    She might have been fishing for a tip on top of the $$$ 5 by saying that most girls would only let you go once. I agree that at those rates, you should expect to get MSOG but worth reading their reviews and bios if available to avoid misunderstandings.

  2. #3671
    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson290  [View Original Post]
    Sorry missed a $ on my original post. Cost was $$$ . 5.
    For that I would hope you would get as many pops as you could in the time you paid for.

    -w.

  3. #3670

    Typo on Cost

    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson290  [View Original Post]
    It was my first time using an agency so my expectations might be out of tune with reality. I have been a frequent AMP visitor and backpage user. Backpage and AMPs are so hit and miss that I've been looking for something more reliable and consistent quality. And CoolPatrick arguments not to long ago convinced me to save a little dough and have a better experience.

    I booked Lorena with Michelles. Her pictures likely resemble what she looked like 10 years ago and at the height of her attractiveness. She's probably in her late 30's and has put on a few pounds. She's not fat but has a bit of a belly. I'd say a significant enough difference from the pics for me to be justified in leaving but the little head was making the decisions at this point. All natural is true. She was friendly and in an upbeat mood. I obviously don't enjoy girls just going through the motions, which happens a lot at the AMPs so it was nice change to have someone into what they were doing. It almost made up for the difference in the photos. CBJ, ball sucking, all positions, and Greek. Greek isn't my thing but she offered at the start. I'm guessing it's included for everyone but YMMV. Incall was $$ 5.

    I wouldn't repeat with Lorena but I'll give the agency another try. She was on time and it was an easy booking. She's not an obvious drug addict. Plus, I am not a member of any verification service (I'm very hesitant to provide so much personal information that will be stored on a database) so I don't have a lot of options with agencies.

    I did have a question regarding my experience that I was hoping people could share their thoughts:

    I was able to pop twice in the hour. After the first pop we were chatting on the bed and then I was ready to go again. She said that "most girls would leave after the first pop but she was ok with another round. " My assumption going in was that I paid for the hour so I should get to pop as many times as I could in the timeframe. Is that not other peoples thoughts?
    Sorry missed a $ on my original post. Cost was $$$ . 5.

  4. #3669

    Lorena with Michelles

    It was my first time using an agency so my expectations might be out of tune with reality. I have been a frequent AMP visitor and backpage user. Backpage and AMPs are so hit and miss that I've been looking for something more reliable and consistent quality. And CoolPatrick arguments not to long ago convinced me to save a little dough and have a better experience.

    I booked Lorena with Michelles. Her pictures likely resemble what she looked like 10 years ago and at the height of her attractiveness. She's probably in her late 30's and has put on a few pounds. She's not fat but has a bit of a belly. I'd say a significant enough difference from the pics for me to be justified in leaving but the little head was making the decisions at this point. All natural is true. She was friendly and in an upbeat mood. I obviously don't enjoy girls just going through the motions, which happens a lot at the AMPs so it was nice change to have someone into what they were doing. It almost made up for the difference in the photos. CBJ, ball sucking, all positions, and Greek. Greek isn't my thing but she offered at the start. I'm guessing it's included for everyone but YMMV. Incall was $$ 5.

    I wouldn't repeat with Lorena but I'll give the agency another try. She was on time and it was an easy booking. She's not an obvious drug addict. Plus, I am not a member of any verification service (I'm very hesitant to provide so much personal information that will be stored on a database) so I don't have a lot of options with agencies.

    I did have a question regarding my experience that I was hoping people could share their thoughts:

    I was able to pop twice in the hour. After the first pop we were chatting on the bed and then I was ready to go again. She said that "most girls would leave after the first pop but she was ok with another round. " My assumption going in was that I paid for the hour so I should get to pop as many times as I could in the timeframe. Is that not other peoples thoughts?

  5. #3668
    I think to many have the boogie man mentality but to each his own.

    Quote Originally Posted by OFCharlie  [View Original Post]
    Sure, anything is possible, but to me the possibility is remote. To grab an agency girl, they first need to pass the agency's screening. That part is easy, I will give you that. Say they made it in and grabbed the girl, the agency's handler will know something is wrong (girl needs to check in after every appointment) right away and abandon the operation. Let's assume somehow they can convince the girl to turn on the handler, LEO would still need to get their hand on the handler's phone (that is how appts are made). Let's say they were able to do all that, then the next step is to set up the sting which they will need apartment landlord's permission (I don't recall ever reading about a sting in an private apartment). Let's further assume the landlord agrees, all those activities will take time to set up. By then, words would have gotten out as some of those agencies are popular and heavily reported. Also, if you are a repeating customer, all you would have done is made an appointment. You don't ever discuss $ or sexual acts in the text. I will admit I am not an expert in law, but what is the crime for simply making an appointment?

    I totally get your concerns, but I like that the odd is in my favor.

  6. #3667
    Quote Originally Posted by feckless  [View Original Post]
    Respect your points, but there's dif angles to consider:

    There's the possib that LEO actions are not about 'justice' (ref: Cook CNTY). If they grabbed an agency girl (as they could do with an Indie) and cut a deal / turned them, they / LEO could collect a string of hobbyists coming in to a SUPPOSED reliable operation-the citations go out and the money rolls in (Crook Cnty Sherrifs ran that type of Volume op. Last year at that Manheim Rd motel).

    The other thought --and seems plausible lately -the 'big splash' in an election year. Like those 4 unfortun guys in Naperville a few weeks ago. Waste of city (taxpayer) $$ and resources, but it still got national news coverage. Other than Tommy D, I don't recall any politico's stepping up to claim credit for CLEANING UP their town (s), but maybe that's just implied.

    There's no perfect solution (as far as I can see).
    Sure, anything is possible, but to me the possibility is remote. To grab an agency girl, they first need to pass the agency's screening. That part is easy, I will give you that. Say they made it in and grabbed the girl, the agency's handler will know something is wrong (girl needs to check in after every appointment) right away and abandon the operation. Let's assume somehow they can convince the girl to turn on the handler, LEO would still need to get their hand on the handler's phone (that is how appts are made). Let's say they were able to do all that, then the next step is to set up the sting which they will need apartment landlord's permission (I don't recall ever reading about a sting in an private apartment). Let's further assume the landlord agrees, all those activities will take time to set up. By then, words would have gotten out as some of those agencies are popular and heavily reported. Also, if you are a repeating customer, all you would have done is made an appointment. You don't ever discuss $ or sexual acts in the text. I will admit I am not an expert in law, but what is the crime for simply making an appointment?

    I totally get your concerns, but I like that the odd is in my favor.

  7. #3666
    Quote Originally Posted by OFCharlie  [View Original Post]
    Unless you are someone famous like Eliot Spitzer, you really don't have too much to worry about LEO getting their hand on an agency's client list. Even if they can identify the real you, so what. That in itself is not a crime. They have to prove that you actually saw a girl on a given day and more importantly that money changed hand AND a sexual act took place. That is almost impossible. Sure I suppose they can arrest the girl and have her testify against you, but in reality that is highly unlikely. A girl sees a few guys a day. Do you really think she can remember you and all the details that took place? You can very easily discredit her. Finally do you really think Cook County District Attorney is going to spend the resource to go after you on a misdemeanor crime when their have backlogs of murder cases to try?

    Some of well known agencies have been around for years. If LEO really wants to go after them, they would have done so already. It's not exactly like they are hiding.

    Oh yeah, whatever happened to Heidi Fleiss' client list?
    Respect your points, but there's dif angles to consider:

    There's the possib that LEO actions are not about 'justice' (ref: Cook CNTY). If they grabbed an agency girl (as they could do with an Indie) and cut a deal / turned them, they / LEO could collect a string of hobbyists coming in to a SUPPOSED reliable operation-the citations go out and the money rolls in (Crook Cnty Sherrifs ran that type of Volume op. Last year at that Manheim Rd motel).

    The other thought --and seems plausible lately -the 'big splash' in an election year. Like those 4 unfortun guys in Naperville a few weeks ago. Waste of city (taxpayer) $$ and resources, but it still got national news coverage. Other than Tommy D, I don't recall any politico's stepping up to claim credit for CLEANING UP their town (s), but maybe that's just implied.

    There's no perfect solution (as far as I can see).

  8. #3665

    Different Fear

    Quote Originally Posted by OFCharlie  [View Original Post]
    Unless you are someone famous like Eliot Spitzer, you really don't have too much to worry about LEO getting their hand on an agency's client list. Even if they can identify the real you, so what. That in itself is not a crime.
    I am not concerned about LEO putting me in jail b / c I am a member of some agency. But, I am concerned about LEO naming me in a sting and / or some hacker bust like what happened with the Ashley Madison hack. The end result isn't as much of an issue as the initial embarrassment. Providing all my personal data to some agency has a high potential of biting me in the ass at sometime.

    I get why people do it but the risks are high in my mind.

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  10. #3663

    Exactly

    Totally agree with all your points. I also have no burner phone. No need to have that as I don't have anyone looking at my phone. When I had a SO she never asked to see my phone.

    Quote Originally Posted by OFCharlie  [View Original Post]
    Unless you are someone famous like Eliot Spitzer, you really don't have too much to worry about LEO getting their hand on an agency's client list. Even if they can identify the real you, so what. That in itself is not a crime. They have to prove that you actually saw a girl on a given day and more importantly that money changed hand AND a sexual act took place. That is almost impossible. Sure I suppose they can arrest the girl and have her testify against you, but in reality that is highly unlikely. A girl sees a few guys a day. Do you really think she can remember you and all the details that took place? You can very easily discredit her. Finally do you really think Cook County District Attorney is going to spend the resource to go after you on a misdemeanor crime when their have backlogs of murder cases to try?

    Some of well known agencies have been around for years. If LEO really wants to go after them, they would have done so already. It's not exactly like they are hiding.

    Oh yeah, whatever happened to Heidi Fleiss' client list?

  11. #3662

    LEO bust

    Quote Originally Posted by DynoJr  [View Original Post]
    I have no idea if what you're saying is true, but the fact that someone could have access to a client list and run off with it, or worse get busted by LEO is the main reason I don't go through agencies. Independent girls can get flaky but at least you know they aren't going to be targeted for their database.
    Unless you are someone famous like Eliot Spitzer, you really don't have too much to worry about LEO getting their hand on an agency's client list. Even if they can identify the real you, so what. That in itself is not a crime. They have to prove that you actually saw a girl on a given day and more importantly that money changed hand AND a sexual act took place. That is almost impossible. Sure I suppose they can arrest the girl and have her testify against you, but in reality that is highly unlikely. A girl sees a few guys a day. Do you really think she can remember you and all the details that took place? You can very easily discredit her. Finally do you really think Cook County District Attorney is going to spend the resource to go after you on a misdemeanor crime when their have backlogs of murder cases to try?

    Some of well known agencies have been around for years. If LEO really wants to go after them, they would have done so already. It's not exactly like they are hiding.

    Oh yeah, whatever happened to Heidi Fleiss' client list?

  12. #3661

    Credit card data

    Quote Originally Posted by DynoJr  [View Original Post]
    I have no idea if what you're saying is true, but the fact that someone could have access to a client list and run off with it, or worse get busted by LEO is the main reason I don't go through agencies. Independent girls can get flaky but at least you know they aren't going to be targeted for their database.
    I remember freaking out when the Show Club in Chicago Heights was closed down. The newspaper reported the FBI or whichever agency was actually running the credit cards with undercover operatives. Talk about being paranoid for a while. I'll do a cash advance transfer before using a credit card for a transaction.

  13. #3660
    Senior Member


    Posts: 3439

    Another Reason Not To Do Agencies.

    Quote Originally Posted by DynoJr  [View Original Post]
    I have no idea if what you're saying is true, but the fact that someone could have access to a client list and run off with it, or worse get busted by LEO is the main reason I don't go through agencies. Independent girls can get flaky but at least you know they aren't going to be targeted for their database.
    The cost of a session. Agencies cost more than an Indie provider. The agency has to get their part of the payment. Also Indies are less of a target for the police than an agency.

  14. #3659

    Thanks for reminding me why I don't do agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by ExclusiveChi  [View Original Post]
    She used to work with EEC until Lana stole the client list hijacked the phone number and opened IEC a play on words of EEC. Then the girls learned that Lana was a coked out psycho path and they all left her. Every single one of them. Ghostbuster88 joined this forum right after I did and responds to posts that I create. I wonder. Could it be Lana? It's a shill of hers at the very least.
    I have no idea if what you're saying is true, but the fact that someone could have access to a client list and run off with it, or worse get busted by LEO is the main reason I don't go through agencies. Independent girls can get flaky but at least you know they aren't going to be targeted for their database.

  15. #3658

    Ms Montero

    Had a dream and on short notice I was able to see Ms Montero. . looks a little order than her pictures. Still a nice lady with a body. Took the half for $$5. She enjoys what she does and you can tell from the moment you meet her. She has an open menu and I even got a suveneer on my phone 😊. Seniors can PM for details. What a dream I was tired after that short visit LOL.

    Chicago's Hottest, Ms. Montero.

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