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  1. #15455

    Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Dazhiba  [View Original Post]
    The guy in question has the right to do what he wants with his money. If the gal accepts 20 that is up to her and likewise to say "No that's not enough". I read guy bitching all the time that some guys over pay which makes everyone after that guy more likely to have to pay more too. The woman want as much as they can get and we try to pay as little as possible as we can to get what we want. That is Capitalism.
    The girl accepted the twenty not because she was satisfied with the twenty. She accepted it because the cheap fuck claimed that's all he had. The analysis if this isn't complicated at all. Some guys are cheap assholes and treat providers like dirt. Pretty simple and straightforward.

  2. #15454
    Quote Originally Posted by Dazhiba  [View Original Post]
    The guy in question has the right to do what he wants with his money. If the gal accepts 20 that is up to her and likewise to say "No that's not enough". I read guy bitching all the time that some guys over pay which makes everyone after that guy more likely to have to pay more too. The woman want as much as they can get and we try to pay as little as possible as we can to get what we want. That is Capitalism.
    Exactly. The price of something is not what someone is willing to charge. The price of something is what someone is willing to pay. That doesn't even address the issue about a "tip. " Scott Pippen is a shitty tipper. That doesn't mean restaurants change their pricing.

  3. #15453
    Senior Member


    Posts: 2110

    Capitalism

    The guy in question has the right to do what he wants with his money. If the gal accepts 20 that is up to her and likewise to say "No that's not enough". I read guy bitching all the time that some guys over pay which makes everyone after that guy more likely to have to pay more too. The woman want as much as they can get and we try to pay as little as possible as we can to get what we want. That is Capitalism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wirelessone  [View Original Post]
    Plus he didn't say he only had $20, he said he pretends he only has a $20 when the girl didn't show any skin so he had more he just chose to not give it to the girl. This asshat has a seat in the clown car next to that other asshat pretend wannabe 'guy who swipes tip when girl turns her back or leaves the room cause you know its her fault that she didn't know I'm a thief' jerkoff.

    Wired.

  4. #15452

    Just another wannabe monger

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob521  [View Original Post]
    The point is not that he only tips $20. There's lots of times when $20 is reasonable tip. The point is he is knowlingly and delibrerately cheating the girl and then bragging about it on this forum. Plenty of guys here insist (rightfully) on rigourus standards for tipping. I think that tip-scale helps everybody, clients and therapists. Perhaps it would be equally clever to tell the girl before the massage that he only had $20?
    Plus he didn't say he only had $20, he said he pretends he only has a $20 when the girl didn't show any skin so he had more he just chose to not give it to the girl. This asshat has a seat in the clown car next to that other asshat pretend wannabe 'guy who swipes tip when girl turns her back or leaves the room cause you know its her fault that she didn't know I'm a thief' jerkoff.

    Wired.

  5. #15451

    Belmont

    Stopped by Belmont near the music venue today. I was helped by Tia, who doesn't have great English skills. She's a bit heavyset but with a pretty face. Massage was just okay but with lots of teasing, and a bit of roaming allowed. Heavy handed finish, I asked but nothing else available. This spot is always reliable though.

  6. #15450

    Let's make a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob521  [View Original Post]
    The point is not that he only tips $20. There's lots of times when $20 is reasonable tip. The point is he is knowlingly and delibrerately cheating the girl and then bragging about it on this forum. Plenty of guys here insist (rightfully) on rigourus standards for tipping. I think that tip-scale helps everybody, clients and therapists. Perhaps it would be equally clever to tell the girl before the massage that he only had $20?
    Bob, you are 100% right, he should have told her before the HJ that he was only going to tip her. 2 . Especially since he said that he had fun and roaming was allowed. Anybody that reads this thread knows that the standard tip for a HJ is. 4 . Pulling crap like this hurts everyone. How many times do you read reports on here from pissed of Mongers because they went to an AMP and they are laying on the table with full wood and the girl starts playing let's make a deal and she wants the tip up front. They want the tip up front because they don't want to get half the going rate for services rendered. SaintChuck.

  7. #15449

    Turkish Masaj

    I was thinking about stopping in here when I come into town this week. I need to switch it up from the same old routine AMP. Has anyone been here lately? Is it worth while? Please reply or PM me. Thanks!

  8. #15448

    Also

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob521  [View Original Post]
    The point is not that he only tips $20. There's lots of times when $20 is reasonable tip. The point is he is knowlingly and delibrerately cheating the girl and then bragging about it on this forum. Plenty of guys here insist (rightfully) on rigourus standards for tipping. I think that tip-scale helps everybody, clients and therapists. Perhaps it would be equally clever to tell the girl before the massage that he only had $20?
    My point was not bragging. That was not my goal. I always say I only have. 2 when we begin negotiating. Obviously, there is a segment of you that don't believe in the negotiation. I disagree with that point of view. We agreed on a price and then she basically said it was 1 time thing and next it would just be a massage if I didn't have more. I thought that was valuable information.

    I did not knowingly and deliberately cheat the girl. She agreed to this arrangement. Everyone is jumping to conclusions and attacking rather than having a discussion and asking questions.

  9. #15447

    I did

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob521  [View Original Post]
    The point is not that he only tips $20. There's lots of times when $20 is reasonable tip. The point is he is knowlingly and delibrerately cheating the girl and then bragging about it on this forum. Plenty of guys here insist (rightfully) on rigourus standards for tipping. I think that tip-scale helps everybody, clients and therapists. Perhaps it would be equally clever to tell the girl before the massage that he only had $20?
    Again, she was well aware as we discussed tip on the flip.

  10. #15446
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1255

    Really?

    The point is not that he only tips $20. There's lots of times when $20 is reasonable tip. The point is he is knowlingly and delibrerately cheating the girl and then bragging about it on this forum. Plenty of guys here insist (rightfully) on rigourus standards for tipping. I think that tip-scale helps everybody, clients and therapists. Perhaps it would be equally clever to tell the girl before the massage that he only had $20?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigDog16  [View Original Post]
    What a load of sanctimonious garbage. The guy said he tips $20. If you want to tip more, tip more. Personally, I find the guys tipping way more than they should to be more offensive. This hobby is about money. Sure, some of the guys get off on this faux nobility, but at the end of the day, these ladies see you as a means to make cash off of jerking you off. If she could go get another job she would. But she can't. And if she could charge more she would. But she can't. So if the guy wants to tip $20, it's really none of your business.

  11. #15445

    Discussion Before

    Quote Originally Posted by Moccdawg  [View Original Post]
    Standard tip for a standard finish. 4. If you cheat her out of what is expected, you also screw over the rest of us. She start demanding tip upfront. Tip too much, spoils her and screws us too. Bad service, bad tip. Standard service, standard tip. Fabulous service, Fab tip. I'll rate the girl for looks and attitude, extras available, massage & table shower quality, and the place's hygienic standards (refolding towels for the next one and stuff like that). I will not go back for what I don't like, but I will go back for good service from a good AMP, EMP, od a legit (legal) place.
    We definitely had the negotiation on the flip so she did "demand" the tip upfront. I wouldn't say it was a demand though, more of a "let's get on the same page. ".

    I don't think I have "screwed over the rest of you. " Apologies to those of you think I have but I think a macro perspective would refute most of your arguments. I think the amount of foot traffic in and out of AMPs is extremely high and I also think the amount people tip fluctuates more than you are implying.

  12. #15444

    To each his won

    Quote Originally Posted by AvgJoe  [View Original Post]
    I agree with her 100% and everyone else who has responded to you in that "next time need more".

    You even said that she was attractive, fun, allowed roaming, gave an ok massage and was a good experience so why embarrass her with some cheapo tip and then brag about it on here? These girls know what "standard tips" are. They have all been around the block a little more than you have plus what you did gives us all a bad name.

    I will keep your name and will never share anything with you in the future because your cheap attitude would reflect back on me personally. I have shared quite a bit here (without asking in return) but would never give you a UTR of mine, or any other info for that matter.

    AJ
    I think you are overrating significantly. Maybe I can add some clarity. We discussed the tip before proceeding and she was ok with it but said next time I need more.

    I'm relatively new so a lot of people have been around the block more than I have. Maybe that is cheap; I don't think it is. I have an amount in mind that I am willing to pay for services and I attempt to stay that course. I don't see any issue with that and I'm sorry you do.

  13. #15443

    Bob

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob521  [View Original Post]
    On every level it's the wrong thing to do. Assuming the massage was good and the time was not shorted. From a practical level you hurt everybody else out here, as dawg says. Meanwhile, you are just being a jerk to the woman. What's good about that?
    I take your opinion seriously Bob. I didn't think I was being a jerk to the woman but felt. 85 total for my experience was justified. Obviously there is disagreement over that figure. She wasn't insulted at that time and we discussed before proceeding. I didn't all of a sudden spring it on her at after. She was well aware.

    I wasn't trying to brag about only giving her that but just trying to communicate to everyone that more is expected.

  14. #15442
    Quote Originally Posted by AvgJoe  [View Original Post]
    I agree with her 100% and everyone else who has responded to you in that "next time need more".

    You even said that she was attractive, fun, allowed roaming, gave an ok massage and was a good experience so why embarrass her with some cheapo tip and then brag about it on here? These girls know what "standard tips" are. They have all been around the block a little more than you have plus what you did gives us all a bad name.

    I will keep your name and will never share anything with you in the future because your cheap attitude would reflect back on me personally. I have shared quite a bit here (without asking in return) but would never give you a UTR of mine, or any other info for that matter.

    AJ
    What a load of sanctimonious garbage. The guy said he tips $20. If you want to tip more, tip more. Personally, I find the guys tipping way more than they should to be more offensive. This hobby is about money. Sure, some of the guys get off on this faux nobility, but at the end of the day, these ladies see you as a means to make cash off of jerking you off. If she could go get another job she would. But she can't. And if she could charge more she would. But she can't. So if the guy wants to tip $20, it's really none of your business.

  15. #15441

    Cheap Charlie

    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson290  [View Original Post]
    http://chicago.backpage.com/Therapeu...ation/19217485

    Checked out Qing Spa earlier since I was in the area. Not as good as Belmont Spa but it's probably the 2nd best I've visited in the area. The girl was attractive especially compared to the other AMPs I've visited. I was there on the earlier side so they might not have had their front line out yet.

    The massage was ok but she was fun and allowed roaming. I always wait to the flip to roam but then we had fun. Standard finish and my standard. 2 tip. I always pretend like that's all I have if they won't show any skin and she wouldn't. She said I'd need more next time.

    All in all it was a good experience for the price and convenience. If I'm around there again however I'll just make the extra 10 min drive to Belmont. Just an all around better experience.
    I agree with her 100% and everyone else who has responded to you in that "next time need more".

    You even said that she was attractive, fun, allowed roaming, gave an ok massage and was a good experience so why embarrass her with some cheapo tip and then brag about it on here? These girls know what "standard tips" are. They have all been around the block a little more than you have plus what you did gives us all a bad name.

    I will keep your name and will never share anything with you in the future because your cheap attitude would reflect back on me personally. I have shared quite a bit here (without asking in return) but would never give you a UTR of mine, or any other info for that matter.

    AJ

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