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  1. #15446

    I did

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob521  [View Original Post]
    The point is not that he only tips $20. There's lots of times when $20 is reasonable tip. The point is he is knowlingly and delibrerately cheating the girl and then bragging about it on this forum. Plenty of guys here insist (rightfully) on rigourus standards for tipping. I think that tip-scale helps everybody, clients and therapists. Perhaps it would be equally clever to tell the girl before the massage that he only had $20?
    Again, she was well aware as we discussed tip on the flip.

  2. #15445
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1255

    Really?

    The point is not that he only tips $20. There's lots of times when $20 is reasonable tip. The point is he is knowlingly and delibrerately cheating the girl and then bragging about it on this forum. Plenty of guys here insist (rightfully) on rigourus standards for tipping. I think that tip-scale helps everybody, clients and therapists. Perhaps it would be equally clever to tell the girl before the massage that he only had $20?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigDog16  [View Original Post]
    What a load of sanctimonious garbage. The guy said he tips $20. If you want to tip more, tip more. Personally, I find the guys tipping way more than they should to be more offensive. This hobby is about money. Sure, some of the guys get off on this faux nobility, but at the end of the day, these ladies see you as a means to make cash off of jerking you off. If she could go get another job she would. But she can't. And if she could charge more she would. But she can't. So if the guy wants to tip $20, it's really none of your business.

  3. #15444

    Discussion Before

    Quote Originally Posted by Moccdawg  [View Original Post]
    Standard tip for a standard finish. 4. If you cheat her out of what is expected, you also screw over the rest of us. She start demanding tip upfront. Tip too much, spoils her and screws us too. Bad service, bad tip. Standard service, standard tip. Fabulous service, Fab tip. I'll rate the girl for looks and attitude, extras available, massage & table shower quality, and the place's hygienic standards (refolding towels for the next one and stuff like that). I will not go back for what I don't like, but I will go back for good service from a good AMP, EMP, od a legit (legal) place.
    We definitely had the negotiation on the flip so she did "demand" the tip upfront. I wouldn't say it was a demand though, more of a "let's get on the same page. ".

    I don't think I have "screwed over the rest of you. " Apologies to those of you think I have but I think a macro perspective would refute most of your arguments. I think the amount of foot traffic in and out of AMPs is extremely high and I also think the amount people tip fluctuates more than you are implying.

  4. #15443

    To each his won

    Quote Originally Posted by AvgJoe  [View Original Post]
    I agree with her 100% and everyone else who has responded to you in that "next time need more".

    You even said that she was attractive, fun, allowed roaming, gave an ok massage and was a good experience so why embarrass her with some cheapo tip and then brag about it on here? These girls know what "standard tips" are. They have all been around the block a little more than you have plus what you did gives us all a bad name.

    I will keep your name and will never share anything with you in the future because your cheap attitude would reflect back on me personally. I have shared quite a bit here (without asking in return) but would never give you a UTR of mine, or any other info for that matter.

    AJ
    I think you are overrating significantly. Maybe I can add some clarity. We discussed the tip before proceeding and she was ok with it but said next time I need more.

    I'm relatively new so a lot of people have been around the block more than I have. Maybe that is cheap; I don't think it is. I have an amount in mind that I am willing to pay for services and I attempt to stay that course. I don't see any issue with that and I'm sorry you do.

  5. #15442

    Bob

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob521  [View Original Post]
    On every level it's the wrong thing to do. Assuming the massage was good and the time was not shorted. From a practical level you hurt everybody else out here, as dawg says. Meanwhile, you are just being a jerk to the woman. What's good about that?
    I take your opinion seriously Bob. I didn't think I was being a jerk to the woman but felt. 85 total for my experience was justified. Obviously there is disagreement over that figure. She wasn't insulted at that time and we discussed before proceeding. I didn't all of a sudden spring it on her at after. She was well aware.

    I wasn't trying to brag about only giving her that but just trying to communicate to everyone that more is expected.

  6. #15441
    Quote Originally Posted by AvgJoe  [View Original Post]
    I agree with her 100% and everyone else who has responded to you in that "next time need more".

    You even said that she was attractive, fun, allowed roaming, gave an ok massage and was a good experience so why embarrass her with some cheapo tip and then brag about it on here? These girls know what "standard tips" are. They have all been around the block a little more than you have plus what you did gives us all a bad name.

    I will keep your name and will never share anything with you in the future because your cheap attitude would reflect back on me personally. I have shared quite a bit here (without asking in return) but would never give you a UTR of mine, or any other info for that matter.

    AJ
    What a load of sanctimonious garbage. The guy said he tips $20. If you want to tip more, tip more. Personally, I find the guys tipping way more than they should to be more offensive. This hobby is about money. Sure, some of the guys get off on this faux nobility, but at the end of the day, these ladies see you as a means to make cash off of jerking you off. If she could go get another job she would. But she can't. And if she could charge more she would. But she can't. So if the guy wants to tip $20, it's really none of your business.

  7. #15440

    Cheap Charlie

    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson290  [View Original Post]
    http://chicago.backpage.com/Therapeu...ation/19217485

    Checked out Qing Spa earlier since I was in the area. Not as good as Belmont Spa but it's probably the 2nd best I've visited in the area. The girl was attractive especially compared to the other AMPs I've visited. I was there on the earlier side so they might not have had their front line out yet.

    The massage was ok but she was fun and allowed roaming. I always wait to the flip to roam but then we had fun. Standard finish and my standard. 2 tip. I always pretend like that's all I have if they won't show any skin and she wouldn't. She said I'd need more next time.

    All in all it was a good experience for the price and convenience. If I'm around there again however I'll just make the extra 10 min drive to Belmont. Just an all around better experience.
    I agree with her 100% and everyone else who has responded to you in that "next time need more".

    You even said that she was attractive, fun, allowed roaming, gave an ok massage and was a good experience so why embarrass her with some cheapo tip and then brag about it on here? These girls know what "standard tips" are. They have all been around the block a little more than you have plus what you did gives us all a bad name.

    I will keep your name and will never share anything with you in the future because your cheap attitude would reflect back on me personally. I have shared quite a bit here (without asking in return) but would never give you a UTR of mine, or any other info for that matter.

    AJ

  8. #15439
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1255

    Agreed +1

    On every level it's the wrong thing to do. Assuming the massage was good and the time was not shorted. From a practical level you hurt everybody else out here, as dawg says. Meanwhile, you are just being a jerk to the woman. What's good about that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moccdawg  [View Original Post]
    Standard tip for a standard finish. 4. If you cheat her out of what is expected, you also screw over the rest of us. She start demanding tip upfront. Tip too much, spoils her and screws us too. Bad service, bad tip. Standard service, standard tip. Fabulous service, Fab tip. I'll rate the girl for looks and attitude, extras available, massage & table shower quality, and the place's hygienic standards (refolding towels for the next one and stuff like that). I will not go back for what I don't like, but I will go back for good service from a good AMP, EMP, od a legit (legal) place.

  9. #15438

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoomy99  [View Original Post]
    Tip seems to be insulting for a standard finish. According to you she was fun allowed roaming and a standard finish. So WTF why treat her like a piece of shit by tipping half the standard tip?
    Standard tip for a standard finish. 4. If you cheat her out of what is expected, you also screw over the rest of us. She start demanding tip upfront. Tip too much, spoils her and screws us too. Bad service, bad tip. Standard service, standard tip. Fabulous service, Fab tip. I'll rate the girl for looks and attitude, extras available, massage & table shower quality, and the place's hygienic standards (refolding towels for the next one and stuff like that). I will not go back for what I don't like, but I will go back for good service from a good AMP, EMP, od a legit (legal) place.

  10. #15437
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoomy99  [View Original Post]
    Tip seems to be insulting for a standard finish. According to you she was fun allowed roaming and a standard finish. So WTF why treat her like a piece of shit by tipping half the standard tip?
    Insulting? Are you her pimp?

  11. #15436

    Bet they can't wait to see you again

    Quote Originally Posted by Jameson290  [View Original Post]
    http://chicago.backpage.com/Therapeu...ation/19217485

    Checked out Qing Spa earlier since I was in the area. Not as good as Belmont Spa but it's probably the 2nd best I've visited in the area. The girl was attractive especially compared to the other AMPs I've visited. I was there on the earlier side so they might not have had their front line out yet.

    The massage was ok but she was fun and allowed roaming. I always wait to the flip to roam but then we had fun. Standard finish and my standard. 2 tip. I always pretend like that's all I have if they won't show any skin and she wouldn't. She said I'd need more next time.

    All in all it was a good experience for the price and convenience. If I'm around there again however I'll just make the extra 10 min drive to Belmont. Just an all around better experience.
    Tip seems to be insulting for a standard finish. According to you she was fun allowed roaming and a standard finish. So WTF why treat her like a piece of shit by tipping half the standard tip?

  12. #15435

    Logan Square

    http://chicago.backpage.com/Therapeu...ation/19217485

    Checked out Qing Spa earlier since I was in the area. Not as good as Belmont Spa but it's probably the 2nd best I've visited in the area. The girl was attractive especially compared to the other AMPs I've visited. I was there on the earlier side so they might not have had their front line out yet.

    The massage was ok but she was fun and allowed roaming. I always wait to the flip to roam but then we had fun. Standard finish and my standard. 2 tip. I always pretend like that's all I have if they won't show any skin and she wouldn't. She said I'd need more next time.

    All in all it was a good experience for the price and convenience. If I'm around there again however I'll just make the extra 10 min drive to Belmont. Just an all around better experience.

  13. #15434
    Quote Originally Posted by OldDog261  [View Original Post]
    True, but when I deposit in my home area, I should expect to access my funds when traveling. I will definitely leave a mark behind for the others. Not asking much here, just a nudge in the right direction, I will take care of the rest. First stop though will be in Des Moines shortly.
    True, but like a bank account different businesses charge ATM fees if you're not using theirs. Like it was said below, contribute and you will get responses. Just blindly asking for information especially with little or no posts won't get you anything. Illinois is a large state, and there won't be any information for Des Moines here either as it's in Iowa. As for a nudge in the right direction, rtff for nearby where you'll be, plenty of info available for whatever you're looking for.

    -w.

  14. #15433
    Shill for providers or a provider, ignore all posts


    Posts: 58

    1st time visiting

    Checked out ivy. New girl Tina. Opted for the table shower. She did a very nice job. Cleaned everywhere. Good massage but not great. On the flip, no discussion was made and lead her to what I wanted. Had a great time and will return. Paid house fee plus $ tip.

  15. #15432

    More details needed

    Quote Originally Posted by OldDog261  [View Original Post]
    True, but when I deposit in my home area, I should expect to access my funds when traveling. I will definitely leave a mark behind for the others. Not asking much here, just a nudge in the right direction, I will take care of the rest. First stop though will be in Des Moines shortly.
    I see those help posts from traveling guys from time to time. The problem with those posts is that there is lack of details. What are you looking for, just a happy ending or FS? Do you want K girls or Chinese girls? Most importantly, where are you staying and will you have a car? Chicago is a big area. For example, if you are staying in the downtown area but have no car, it does you no good if I give you a tip to a FS spa in the suburb.

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