Massage Parlor Reports

[PwnLife]

Right when they open, everything is fresher and they're more energized.

-w.

If there's just one girl there in the mornings she's more likely to have to interupt your session to answer the phone, answer the door etc. Try to at least find a place that has a mamasan to do that stuff.

[PwnLife]

Right when they open, everything is fresher and they're more energized.

-w.

Yes, at open is good, but sometimes they are shortstaffed then too, since the late crew hasn't come in yet either. Maybe try asking the mamasan / girls when it's not so busy.

[Wenger]

Weeknight evenings seem to be pretty busy at the parlors and girls usually shorten your massage. When do you find the best time to go?

Right when they open, everything is fresher and they're more energized.

-w.

[Ron M]

Weeknight evenings seem to be pretty busy at the parlors and girls usually shorten your massage. When do you find the best time to go?

How about going anytime other than week night evenings?

[CraigGerton]

Weeknight evenings seem to be pretty busy at the parlors and girls usually shorten your massage. When do you find the best time to go?

[Castlerae]

You see they have to be either licensed as an LMT or the Asian bodywork therapies which is 500 to 600 hours of training in those modalities, I. E licensed by the state for the individual. What cities like St. Charles, Wheaton are doing is creating a adminstrative license for a massage business and if you want to operate a business that massages people (except those already exempted like RN, Dr's, chiropractors by the state) then YOU as the applicant for the massage license agree that those who you hire as massasge therapists meet all state licensing requirements.

See what they did there, the vetting of therapists falls on the applicant who swears under oath that therapists hired meet all state standards. When they show up and ask questions after you open and they ask for an individual's massage license and they can't or they are unable to verify said license, that allows the orange sticker of death to go on the door. Before, it was only the individual massage therapist who was arrested, charged with prostitution but the business could reopen.

By the way, in St. Charles when you fill out the application for a massage business license, if you attempt to hide behind a partnership or corporation, St. Charles says if you benefit materially by receiving more than 10% of the business, you must provide to St. Charles the following: full name, address, SSN, drivers license number,DOB, sex including a physical description including height, weight hair and eye color.

All names and addresses of the massasge therapists, (to prevent them from living in the business) including anyone therapists who will be a manager, assistant manaager or possibly be left in a supervisory capacity during business hours. Additionally the appicant agrees to provide their work history including the name of, business and occupation for the 3 years preceding the date of the application. Obtain general commericial liability insurance ($1 million /$2 million) for any injuries that could be suffered at said establishment.

Finally, no massage can be given in a cubicle or a room fitted with a door capable of being locked.

For those of you wondering how can one city have these rules, the answer to your questions is: we are the government, so fukt you.

When the cops or the city want to shut a massage place down, they need some sort of pretext. The most common way, if they have complaints about the spa offering 'happy endings', is to send in an undercover cop to see if they can catch a massage worker offering "sexual services". That, however, takes time, money and is not a 100% sure thing. If the city passes all these requirements, then they have a lot of ways to close a spa without having to bother to do more than send a few cops out and catch them in violation of some provision of their license. In other words, it's lazy cops, not 'big government' at work here.

[Wirelessone]

You are so darn depressing. So you are saying, I could spend $12,000 sending her to school. Another $50,000 on building a nice place. And the very next day they can take it all away!

Bob.

that mimic St. Charles. That being said, I swear Bob I am alot of fun. LOL.

Wired.

[Bob521]

You are so darn depressing. So you are saying, I could spend $12,000 sending her to school. Another $50,000 on building a nice place. And the very next day they can take it all away!

Bob.

You see they have to be either licensed as an LMT or the Asian bodywork therapies which is 500 to 600 hours of training in those modalities, I. E licensed by the state for the individual. What cities like St. Charles, Wheaton are doing is creating a adminstrative license for a massage business and if you want to operate a business that massages people (except those already exempted like RN, Dr's, chiropractors by the state) then YOU as the applicant for the massage license agree that those who you hire as massasge therapists meet all state licensing requirements.

See what they did there, the vetting of therapists falls on the applicant who swears under oath that therapists hired meet all state standards. When they show up and ask questions after you open and they ask for an individual's massage license and they can't or they are unable to verify said license, that allows the orange sticker of death to go on the door. Before, it was only the individual massage therapist who was arrested, charged with prostitution but the business could reopen.

By the way, in St. Charles when you fill out the application for a massage business license, if you attempt to hide behind a partnership or corporation, St. Charles says if you benefit materially by receiving more than 10% of the business, you must provide to St. Charles the following: full name, address, SSN, drivers license number,DOB, sex including a physical description including height, weight hair and eye color.

All names and addresses of the massasge therapists, (to prevent them from living in the business) including anyone therapists who will be a manager, assistant manaager or possibly be left in a supervisory capacity during business hours. Additionally the appicant agrees to provide their work history including the name of, business and occupation for the 3 years preceding the date of the application. Obtain general commericial liability insurance ($1 million /$2 million) for any injuries that could be suffered at said establishment.

Finally, no massage can be given in a cubicle or a room fitted with a door capable of being locked.

For those of you wondering how can one city have these rules, the answer to your questions is: we are the government, so fukt you.

[MarkLipper]

You see they have to be either licensed as an LMT or the Asian bodywork therapies which is 500 to 600 hours of training in those modalities, I. E licensed by the state for the individual. What cities like St. Charles, Wheaton are doing is creating a adminstrative license for a massage business and if you want to operate a business that massages people (except those already exempted like RN, Dr's, chiropractors by the state) then YOU as the applicant for the massage license agree that those who you hire as massasge therapists meet all state licensing requirements.

See what they did there, the vetting of therapists falls on the applicant who swears under oath that therapists hired meet all state standards. When they show up and ask questions after you open and they ask for an individual's massage license and they can't or they are unable to verify said license, that allows the orange sticker of death to go on the door. Before, it was only the individual massage therapist who was arrested, charged with prostitution but the business could reopen.

By the way, in St. Charles when you fill out the application for a massage business license, if you attempt to hide behind a partnership or corporation, St. Charles says if you benefit materially by receiving more than 10% of the business, you must provide to St. Charles the following: full name, address, SSN, drivers license number,DOB, sex including a physical description including height, weight hair and eye color.

All names and addresses of the massasge therapists, (to prevent them from living in the business) including anyone therapists who will be a manager, assistant manaager or possibly be left in a supervisory capacity during business hours. Additionally the appicant agrees to provide their work history including the name of, business and occupation for the 3 years preceding the date of the application. Obtain general commericial liability insurance ($1 million /$2 million) for any injuries that could be suffered at said establishment.

Finally, no massage can be given in a cubicle or a room fitted with a door capable of being locked.

For those of you wondering how can one city have these rules, the answer to your questions is: we are the government, so fukt you.

My fellow Geneva friends say the city will adopt the St. Charles code as soon as the next council meeting.

[Wirelessone]

Thanks very much. Bob.

You see they have to be either licensed as an LMT or the Asian bodywork therapies which is 500 to 600 hours of training in those modalities, I. E licensed by the state for the individual. What cities like St. Charles, Wheaton are doing is creating a adminstrative license for a massage business and if you want to operate a business that massages people (except those already exempted like RN, Dr's, chiropractors by the state) then YOU as the applicant for the massage license agree that those who you hire as massasge therapists meet all state licensing requirements.

See what they did there, the vetting of therapists falls on the applicant who swears under oath that therapists hired meet all state standards. When they show up and ask questions after you open and they ask for an individual's massage license and they can't or they are unable to verify said license, that allows the orange sticker of death to go on the door. Before, it was only the individual massage therapist who was arrested, charged with prostitution but the business could reopen.

By the way, in St. Charles when you fill out the application for a massage business license, if you attempt to hide behind a partnership or corporation, St. Charles says if you benefit materially by receiving more than 10% of the business, you must provide to St. Charles the following: full name, address, SSN, drivers license number,DOB, sex including a physical description including height, weight hair and eye color.

All names and addresses of the massasge therapists, (to prevent them from living in the business) including anyone therapists who will be a manager, assistant manaager or possibly be left in a supervisory capacity during business hours. Additionally the appicant agrees to provide their work history including the name of, business and occupation for the 3 years preceding the date of the application. Obtain general commericial liability insurance ($1 million /$2 million) for any injuries that could be suffered at said establishment.

Finally, no massage can be given in a cubicle or a room fitted with a door capable of being locked.

For those of you wondering how can one city have these rules, the answer to your questions is: we are the government, so fukt you.

[Bob521]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...0tCMSN-tw5hoDA Here is a link to the article about Wheaton. They ended up passing an ordinance to close the loophole. Some towns might still have the loophole and then you could get around having the girls get massage licenses. It might vary from town to town. SaintChuck.

Thanks very much. Bob.

[GothBoi30]

Hoping some members might be able to help me out here. I'm looking for a good older Asian provider. 40+ please. Anywhere in the greater Chicago area is ok. If you can help, please post or pm me. Thanks.

[SaintChuck]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...0tCMSN-tw5hoDA Here is a link to the article about Wheaton. They ended up passing an ordinance to close the loophole. Some towns might still have the loophole and then you could get around having the girls get massage licenses. It might vary from town to town. SaintChuck.

[SaintChuck]

The government all reaching and all knowing self. Look at the hoops you have encountered in trying to start a business, regulation, schooling, licensing literally none of which existed just 50 years are now mandatory, yet we survived back then but somehow can't now. I did see in the massage regulations that there are exemptions for practicing the Chinese modalities of Tui Na, Shiatsu and Jin Shin Do which means they do not have to be licensed massage therapist (LMT) but must be certified practitioner or member of American Organization of Bodywork Therapies of Asia. What's the difference you ask? Well an LMT cannot use any device that mimics the use of the hands as in a electric massager but practitioners of Chinese modalities are exempt because they use cupping and accupuncture needles but the illinois massage act does not specifically mention cupping or accupressure except for the exemption of practitioners of Asian bodywork from the massage therapy act.

Got that Bob,. LOL.

Therefore, practitioners of Asian bodywork therapies have no restrictions on their practice, are not considered massage therapists not acupuncturists and can do whatever they want and claim whatever they want without legal restrictions.

However neither you nor your friend can advertise a massage business in a home while she waits builds clientele (I believe that if I see a massage business advertised as being home based, I am smart enought to know that she may not know everything about muscle groups but she would charge a lower price to me, so its up to me to assume risks and to make the decision, not for the government to prevent her from getting started).

These types of regulations are all over the country, mostly in cosmotology and are now moving into regulating the gig economy like AirBnb and Uber. We are in a constant battle with our lease-holder (the government) not enslaved but not free, not in jail but not able to excercise complete liberty either.

Wired

Members of the forum never cease to amaze me! Thank you for the PMs and posts. So (LOL) I am inferring from your post that the St Charles Police would have no objection to Asian Bodywork establishments. Actually, this really is interesting since my friend is already certified in Chinese traditional medicine. It's an interesting field. Thanks again. If / when we open I'll have to invite you guys. An hour of "cupping" (LOL). Bob.

I will have to find the article because it was a few years back. The village of Wheaton wanted to shut down an AMP, but they were having a hell of a time because the women had some certificates from the Asian Body Work Organization. I will have to find the article because there was some kind of a loop hole in regards to that certificate. SaintChuck.

[Bob521]

Members of the forum never cease to amaze me! Thank you for the PMs and posts. So (LOL) I am inferring from your post that the St Charles Police would have no objection to Asian Bodywork establishments. Actually, this really is interesting since my friend is already certified in Chinese traditional medicine. It's an interesting field. Thanks again. If / when we open I'll have to invite you guys. An hour of "cupping" (LOL). Bob.

The government all reaching and all knowing self. Look at the hoops you have encountered in trying to start a business, regulation, schooling, licensing literally none of which existed just 50 years are now mandatory, yet we survived back then but somehow can't now. I did see in the massage regulations that there are exemptions for practicing the Chinese modalities of Tui Na, Shiatsu and Jin Shin Do which means they do not have to be licensed massage therapist (LMT) but must be certified practitioner or member of American Organization of Bodywork Therapies of Asia. What's the difference you ask? Well an LMT cannot use any device that mimics the use of the hands as in a electric massager but practitioners of Chinese modalities are exempt because they use cupping and accupuncture needles but the illinois massage act does not specifically mention cupping or accupressure except for the exemption of practitioners of Asian bodywork from the massage therapy act.

Got that Bob,. LOL.

Therefore, practitioners of Asian bodywork therapies have no restrictions on their practice, are not considered massage therapists not acupuncturists and can do whatever they want and claim whatever they want without legal restrictions.

However neither you nor your friend can advertise a massage business in a home while she waits builds clientele (I believe that if I see a massage business advertised as being home based, I am smart enought to know that she may not know everything about muscle groups but she would charge a lower price to me, so its up to me to assume risks and to make the decision, not for the government to prevent her from getting started).

These types of regulations are all over the country, mostly in cosmotology and are now moving into regulating the gig economy like AirBnb and Uber. We are in a constant battle with our lease-holder (the government) not enslaved but not free, not in jail but not able to excercise complete liberty either.

Wired