Massage Parlor Reports

[Bob521]

There's one person at HM that sees me at her home. Can't reveal her name. I've heard of other freelancers from HM. My regular appointment is a woman I've known 6 years. She's married. But we are conventional friends (no benefits). Also, all 3 of my FWB Chinese girlfriends (and others I've met over the years) were legit masseuses at legit places.

I guess I'm trying to say it is possible to develop a genuine relationship with any person, (legit or otherwise) that will lead to a physical / romantic relationship.

I guess that's one of the reasons I'm sensitive to the "no tip" scenarios. Every day I hear stories from all three woman about massages with no tips. We live in such a fucked-up society that we have to use stupid hints about extras. Both the masseuse and the customer would be better off if both knew what was on the menu (and off the menu) before we wasted our money (or offended the woman). I know every guy on the forum would tip a woman for a good massage if he knew going in, that's all it would be.

Bob

It seems like there's no such thing as 100% legit, really. There's almost always one girl who is willing to go off the plan, or a few that will go a 5% outside of the rules. Keeps it interesting when you go for a legit and get a unexpected bonus w / o trying.

Which 5% is it, Bob? Do 5% of the girls give extras or the girls give 5% extra (self serve, light touching, eg).

I have a seemingly totally-legit place with at least 2 girls eventually doing side work after seeing them semi-regularly for legit for a few years, and almost entirely at their suggestion.

PM ok.

BB.

[Ron M]

I always make sure a Massage Therapist offers Extra Play at the first visit. I'm not one that makes numerous visits hoping to get a HJ.

[BenBeck]

I'm a legit regular (every two weeks) at Heavenly Massage and they are 95% legit. But they have (1) uniforms, sort of (2) a beauty parlor inside (3) groupons (4) a questionaire and email notifications. (5) nice standing shower with steam to clean off the oil. (6) full draped sheets. (7) Well done website. (8) Female yelp reviews. Frankly, it's one of the better legit massage establishments I know. It does most of the recommended things. It's mainly Euro. Bob.

It seems like there's no such thing as 100% legit, really. There's almost always one girl who is willing to go off the plan, or a few that will go a 5% outside of the rules. Keeps it interesting when you go for a legit and get a unexpected bonus w / o trying.

Which 5% is it, Bob? Do 5% of the girls give extras or the girls give 5% extra (self serve, light touching, eg).

I have a seemingly totally-legit place with at least 2 girls eventually doing side work after seeing them semi-regularly for legit for a few years, and almost entirely at their suggestion.

PM ok.

BB.

[Hunter P]

Hey guys,

Long time reader, and figured it's time for me to start contributing.

I decided to bite the bullet and try the Latin place that advertises from time to time on BP. A maps site can also help find them, located in the NW part of the city north of what I'd think of as Logan Square. The place is behind an what looks like a cheap garage, with an unmarked door on the side. My provider let me in, revealing a room with a crappy couch and old TV which was on. Although they advertised a 'table shower,' the setup was really barebones and DIY. I'd asked for an hour but the provider "recommended" a half hour.

The provider, a 5 ft chubby curvy (as opposed to sexy curved) girl maybe in her early 20's led me to a partitioned area made of concrete cinderblocks that did not lead to the ceiling. It looked like there was another 'room' next door, which, if they ever had two providers working, could have been highly awkward.

I got the lightest, most cursory massage I'd had in a while, followed by a short menu with firm prices on the flip; asking for $. 6 for a HJ which seemed on the high side. The girl seemed like she didn't really enjoy or care about what she was doing, and didn't seem to want to hide it.

Other people might have better luck, especially with other providers, but I know I won't be returning.

[Bob521]

I'm a legit regular (every two weeks) at Heavenly Massage and they are 95% legit. But they have (1) uniforms, sort of (2) a beauty parlor inside (3) groupons (4) a questionaire and email notifications. (5) nice standing shower with steam to clean off the oil. (6) full draped sheets. (7) Well done website. (8) Female yelp reviews. Frankly, it's one of the better legit massage establishments I know. It does most of the recommended things. It's mainly Euro. Bob.

Have her hand every new client a clipboard with a 3 page questionnaire about any surgery the client has had and full name and email, current health, trouble spots, etc.

Then when the massage starts make sure the client is draped from toe to neck with a sheet that is at least twice as big as it needs to be and only uncover the area being worked on.

Then follow this up with a massage so good it puts the client to sleep.

I've had the above happen to me at a spa. There was no way I was going to try for extras. Message received loud and clear it was a legit place.

Just my. 02.

Thrillseeker.

[E6671]

What about asking for the tip as part of the door fee? And maybe advertise no tip necessary but appreciated? Call it a "Certified Massage Therapist Tip" or something. As a monger, I might be pissed off and not come back or maybe won't even patronize the place in the first place (which is probably better for you anyways), since you don't want that kind of customer.

Don't have lockable doors, just curtains. Have open ceilings. Have fragile massage tables that can't bear the weight of having sex.

I agree with the curtains and walls that do not go all of the up. I was at a massage parlor in Shanghai that used heavy curtains to separate the rooms instead of actual walls. I could not see anyone trying for extras with that kind of set up. I certainly did not and most Chinese massage parlors on China include HE in the massage as standard. No tipping.

Maybe install fake cameras that are somewhat hidden but also easy to spot along with signs that state something about electronic surveillance. That would definitely be a boner killer and should deter mongers who are only interested in extras.

[HeadFirst80]

Have her hand every new client a clipboard with a 3 page questionnaire about any surgery the client has had and full name and email, current health, trouble spots, etc.

Then when the massage starts make sure the client is draped from toe to neck with a sheet that is at least twice as big as it needs to be and only uncover the area being worked on.

Then follow this up with a massage so good it puts the client to sleep.

I've had the above happen to me at a spa. There was no way I was going to try for extras. Message received loud and clear it was a legit place.

Just my. 02.

Thrillseeker.

Yup, have that happen to be in Lake Zurich and DeerField. Never asked for extras as didn't seem like worth the effort.

[Thrillseeker2]

Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.

So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.

Have her hand every new client a clipboard with a 3 page questionnaire about any surgery the client has had and full name and email, current health, trouble spots, etc.

Then when the massage starts make sure the client is draped from toe to neck with a sheet that is at least twice as big as it needs to be and only uncover the area being worked on.

Then follow this up with a massage so good it puts the client to sleep.

I've had the above happen to me at a spa. There was no way I was going to try for extras. Message received loud and clear it was a legit place.

Just my. 02.

Thrillseeker.

[BenBeck]

GroupOn should sponsor a gang bang.

That is all.

[Sam Singer]

I have seen massage parlors, (including Yus) put offers on groupon. That should give mongers an idea its a legit place. Rocket Dork.

GroupOn should sponsor a gang bang.

[Roy2012]

I would make it a point to have some male MTs working in addition to what others have said. It's kind of like having some backup to just the women in the shop (safer?) and it automatically makes me think a place is more legit in that I feel like men and women are served here.

Also, maybe some yelp reviews from women wouldn't hurt. I think of Pain Stop as one of the great legit Asian massages in Chicago where I've never thought of it as anything, but legit.

Agree to your points. Especially for the yelp reviews. A lot of people look at those, and decide if they are even going to check a place out. BTW alot of ME places are so full that you have to call ahead the week before, to get in, even with a membership. Get the reviews, maybe a special for the NEXT time you visit, after you do the review. Give a referral discount for the same thing. Or use a punch card, buy 10, get 1 free or discount on the 11th.

[PwnLife]

Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.

So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.

What about asking for the tip as part of the door fee? And maybe advertise no tip necessary but appreciated? Call it a "Certified Massage Therapist Tip" or something. As a monger, I might be pissed off and not come back or maybe won't even patronize the place in the first place (which is probably better for you anyways), since you don't want that kind of customer.

Don't have lockable doors, just curtains. Have open ceilings. Have fragile massage tables that can't bear the weight of having sex.

[ChockWow]

Okay, so I'm helping my friend set up a legit massage shop. No HE of any kind. Just good very strong pressure massage. The perpetual problem for her is this: Guys come to the shop and ask or hint for extras. And when they don't get extras, guys are pissed and leave no tip. Now, I'm certain the average person would leave a modest ($10-$20?) tip if they came for a legit massage and got one. My theory is when a person goes to a shop with certain expectations and they don't happen, the person is generally unhappy.

So here's the question: If you are legit therapist and have a legit shop, what should the shop / therapist do to avoid the problem? My main idea is to somehow make sure the customer knows, before he's paid any money, that it's a legit massage. Then he can make an informed decision. My other idea is to let you members know about the place and the fact that it is legit. I've seen "Professional Massage Only" signs in some shops. Also, no ads in Backpage or Craigslist. No miniskirts. No teasing or other suggestive hints by the girl. No table shower. Any other ideas? Thanks guys! Bob.

I would make it a point to have some male MTs working in addition to what others have said. It's kind of like having some backup to just the women in the shop (safer?) and it automatically makes me think a place is more legit in that I feel like men and women are served here.

Also, maybe some yelp reviews from women wouldn't hurt. I think of Pain Stop as one of the great legit Asian massages in Chicago where I've never thought of it as anything, but legit.

[Bob521]

Great suggestions. Thank you all. I'll certainly let you know when it's open, assuming we can get a business license and a lease. Bob.

I think the suggestions so far can help, but there may be no full solution.

We all, at one time, may have gazed at the sign "No Any Special Service" with a secret, ironic chuckle while getting a rimming, discounted with a Groupon, from a provider who just shed her MT polo-shirt-and-sweatpants legit uniform.

I think all of those things can reduce the harassment by lowering expectations, and that most guys who's mom raised them right will get the signals and behave:

- consider where and how you advertise.

- dress code for the MTs.

- certificates, other licenses displayed in plain view.

Unfortunately, however, it seems that pure racism and ignorance play a role here when guys don't respect individuals because they are Asian. Assuming they are offering extras and getting indignant when they are shut down.

One "legit" shop I like a lot even has an explanation posted stating that they don't offer "Asian services" and are not a "happy ending parlor", and 90% are Asian providers and they are Asian-owned. It's just an unfortunate fact of life in America.

My $. 02.

Best to you and your friend, Bob. Happy to respectfully patronize to the shop for a legit massage. Please let us know the details when it's open.

BB.

[BenBeck]

I have seen massage parlors, (including Yus) put offers on groupon. That should give mongers an idea its a legit place. Rocket Dork.

I think the suggestions so far can help, but there may be no full solution.

We all, at one time, may have gazed at the sign "No Any Special Service" with a secret, ironic chuckle while getting a rimming, discounted with a Groupon, from a provider who just shed her MT polo-shirt-and-sweatpants legit uniform.

I think all of those things can reduce the harassment by lowering expectations, and that most guys who's mom raised them right will get the signals and behave:

- consider where and how you advertise.

- dress code for the MTs.

- certificates, other licenses displayed in plain view.

Unfortunately, however, it seems that pure racism and ignorance play a role here when guys don't respect individuals because they are Asian. Assuming they are offering extras and getting indignant when they are shut down.

One "legit" shop I like a lot even has an explanation posted stating that they don't offer "Asian services" and are not a "happy ending parlor", and 90% are Asian providers and they are Asian-owned. It's just an unfortunate fact of life in America.

My $. 02.

Best to you and your friend, Bob. Happy to respectfully patronize to the shop for a legit massage. Please let us know the details when it's open.

BB.