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  1. #2423

    LF a reliable friend

    Visiting for the week, would love for someone to save me a lot of time researching. .

  2. #2422
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1982

    Market pricing

    Quote Originally Posted by RoaminRoman  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately, while such an endeavor might seem feasible, it's doomed to failure and frustration.

    PRICE is entirely an objective measure, while VALUE is largely a subjective measure (even with multiple metrics attached). The PRICE that a person is willing to pay for a commodity or service depends on the VALUE that one attaches to it. Different people will attach different values to various and sundry commodities or services, which is the Free Market in unhindered operation. The market will determine the optimum PRICE that a commodity or service can command, via the countless voluntary individual transactions that occur (all of which depend on the particular VALUE that those individuals place on the commodity or service).

    Sellers also attach value to the commodity or service they are offering, and that will dictate their asking price. In all likelihood, the value they attach and the value a potential buyer attaches will differ, but their respective acceptable price ranges might overlap. If those ranges do overlap, then a negotiation ensues. If a seller is astute, he or she will adjust the asking price to the point that best maximizes the number of transactions within the price range he or she is willing to accept for the commodity or service (again, based on the perceived value).

    The point is, since we all (the potential buyers) have different values that we attach to even the same BP providers, attempting to categorize providers into a value chart by price range will be an exercise in futility. If each of us is satisfied with the price we each pay for a provider's services, then we've obtained "good value. " That's about the best you'll be able to do, IMO.

    Now, that said, one can produce a chart that groups providers by PRICE vs. SERVICES, both of which are objective measures. However, one will still be left with the question of QUALITY of said services. Absent specific metrics to adjudge those services, even this sort of ranking system will fail. Besides, who among us wants (or is able) to think about objective metrics when some provider has either pair of her lips wrapped around Junior? I know my focus won't be on objective metrics at that point; I'll be focused on subjective matters. But maybe other mongers can compartmentalize thinks, in a Mr. Spock-like manner, while a session is in progress. Who knows? Who cares?

    Good luck, though, should you attempt such a chart and ranking system. I'll be interested in seeing its implementation.

    Roman


    P.S. - By the way, when you think about it, the USASG basically is already doing what you're seeking to do: rank the relative Price-Value of any given provider. It's just that the USASG does it in a much more thorough way, via the various discussions and reports. For any given provider, our community is able to thresh out approximately where that provider is located in the Price-Value continuum.
    As you mentioned, the hobby is an interesting mix of the commodity (pussy) itself + appearance + service and I think there are some interesting parallels to similar markets. One that comes immediately to mind is the market for hotel beds (or even airline seats). The bed itself is the commodity but it's the difference in the appearance, convenience and service factors that work together to determine the price.

    Just like with hotels, there are 5-star providers at the top and a wide variety going all the way down to 1-star at the bottom. And just like with hotels, every buyer in the market wants to get the most value for their hard-earned dollar. Nobody wants to pay 5-star prices for a 2-star experience and that's why there are so many hotel price search and review sites.

    But a huge difference between these two markets is that the hotel industry has pricing down to a science so they know exactly when they can charge more and when they need to offer a discount. Unfortunately, most providers either copy other girls or they may develop "Golden Pussy" syndrome and simply assume the price should be whatever they think they're worth (and that mongers should be happy to pay it). IMHO there are a few reasons why some providers can get away with charging above-market prices. For one, they may be part-timers who don't need a steady income from the hobby. Also, there will always be mongers who are too busy (or lazy or newbies or whatever) and, if they happen to have the $, they will pay the higher fee. And finally, there's the dreaded little-head-itis, when the urge hits and you have a limited window of opportunity and your gonads tell you to just go for it.

    But what's crazy to me is that some of the same guys who will scour sites like Expedia and Kayak and TripAdvisor for the very best value in a hotel room too often don't put forth the same effort when it comes to finding an escort. When you think about this site (Hey, we're the TripAdvisor of Pussy!) and oThERs, it's not that heavy a lift. Of course, every monger has their own preferences (young vs MILF, spinner vs stacked, GND vs exotic, etc.) but that's where good homework comes in to make sure you're comparing apples to apples.

    Here's one example as an illustration (these NOVA sites have similar offerings, young hotties for "private viewing" sessions):

    http://bluegems.com/the-ladies/

    http://www.secrettemptation.com/page4.html

    http://www.edenmodelsva.com/gallery/

    They all used to charge 120 for a hh session until bluegems raised it to 140. From my perspective (full disclosure, I haven't visited any of them) unless I had an especially good report about a particular bluegems girl, I'd see no reason to pay the higher fee. I absolutely understand it's only $20, but if you found a hotel room for $20 less than another that was in the same neighborhood and comparable in every respect, what's the justification for the higher price?

    The bottom line is that the more info that's out there about price + service + all the other relevant factors mongers care about, the more efficiently the market will function. But all the resources in the world won't help if hobbyists don't engage the big head and use them.

  3. #2421

    It will be difficult to codify

    Quote Originally Posted by Sfrancis118  [View Original Post]
    Fair enough. With that said, maybe we post a value chart by price range and include some recommendations. For example rank providers in the 100-200,200-300,300-400, and 400+.
    Unfortunately, while such an endeavor might seem feasible, it's doomed to failure and frustration.

    PRICE is entirely an objective measure, while VALUE is largely a subjective measure (even with multiple metrics attached). The PRICE that a person is willing to pay for a commodity or service depends on the VALUE that one attaches to it. Different people will attach different values to various and sundry commodities or services, which is the Free Market in unhindered operation. The market will determine the optimum PRICE that a commodity or service can command, via the countless voluntary individual transactions that occur (all of which depend on the particular VALUE that those individuals place on the commodity or service).

    Sellers also attach value to the commodity or service they are offering, and that will dictate their asking price. In all likelihood, the value they attach and the value a potential buyer attaches will differ, but their respective acceptable price ranges might overlap. If those ranges do overlap, then a negotiation ensues. If a seller is astute, he or she will adjust the asking price to the point that best maximizes the number of transactions within the price range he or she is willing to accept for the commodity or service (again, based on the perceived value).

    The point is, since we all (the potential buyers) have different values that we attach to even the same BP providers, attempting to categorize providers into a value chart by price range will be an exercise in futility. If each of us is satisfied with the price we each pay for a provider's services, then we've obtained "good value. " That's about the best you'll be able to do, IMO.

    Now, that said, one can produce a chart that groups providers by PRICE vs. SERVICES, both of which are objective measures. However, one will still be left with the question of QUALITY of said services. Absent specific metrics to adjudge those services, even this sort of ranking system will fail. Besides, who among us wants (or is able) to think about objective metrics when some provider has either pair of her lips wrapped around Junior? I know my focus won't be on objective metrics at that point; I'll be focused on subjective matters. But maybe other mongers can compartmentalize thinks, in a Mr. Spock-like manner, while a session is in progress. Who knows? Who cares?

    Good luck, though, should you attempt such a chart and ranking system. I'll be interested in seeing its implementation.

    Roman


    P.S. - By the way, when you think about it, the USASG basically is already doing what you're seeking to do: rank the relative Price-Value of any given provider. It's just that the USASG does it in a much more thorough way, via the various discussions and reports. For any given provider, our community is able to thresh out approximately where that provider is located in the Price-Value continuum.

  4. #2420

    Opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    Just to clarify, nothing in my post was intended to downplay either your experience or your contribution. And, as I said, I'm happy you had a good session. But one of the great benefits of this forum is to share intel not only about specific providers but also about how to get the most for our hard-earned $.

    IMHO, when it comes to the higher price levels, the differences between $300-$400-$500+ GFE providers become much more intangible. That's because, assuming they provide the services that qualify them for the GFE label, after that it mostly comes down to appearance and whatever type of ambiance or connection there is between provider and client. But the tricky part about such intangibles is how much they can vary from individual to individual, and even from session to session with the same provider.

    If you think of high-priced GFE escorts in the same way as Michelin 3-star restaurants, the differences are similarly intangible and individual. In your post you provided a stellar review of one such establishment. In my post I'm adhering to your advice about making informed choices by pointing out that there are others who may provide a similarly wonderful experience for less.

    Of course, as always, every hobbyist will check out the available marketplace options and spend their money as they see fit.
    Fair enough. With that said, maybe we post a value chart by price range and include some recommendations. For example rank providers in the 100-200,200-300,300-400, and 400+.

    I've had varied experiences at different price points. Recently found an agency at 200 (see Baltimore) that has proven to be a great value. At 300 some success with Ame.companionfiles, jennifersmodels, and flawless. Downhill experiences with matchless. (See below).

    IMHO could prove insightful.

  5. #2419
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1982

    Thanks for the contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by Sfrancis118  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the advice but I'm happy with my choice and hope members appreciate the contribution. I've posted many reviews on the other site as well so that we all can review and make our own informed choices.
    Just to clarify, nothing in my post was intended to downplay either your experience or your contribution. And, as I said, I'm happy you had a good session. But one of the great benefits of this forum is to share intel not only about specific providers but also about how to get the most for our hard-earned $.

    IMHO, when it comes to the higher price levels, the differences between $300-$400-$500+ GFE providers become much more intangible. That's because, assuming they provide the services that qualify them for the GFE label, after that it mostly comes down to appearance and whatever type of ambiance or connection there is between provider and client. But the tricky part about such intangibles is how much they can vary from individual to individual, and even from session to session with the same provider.

    If you think of high-priced GFE escorts in the same way as Michelin 3-star restaurants, the differences are similarly intangible and individual. In your post you provided a stellar review of one such establishment. In my post I'm adhering to your advice about making informed choices by pointing out that there are others who may provide a similarly wonderful experience for less.

    Of course, as always, every hobbyist will check out the available marketplace options and spend their money as they see fit.

  6. #2418

    Matchless beauties Bonnie

    My experiences with matchless have gone downhill. I used to visit almost weekly. My last experience withBonnie was a bit of a disappointment. Asked for $$ up front no problem. However her demeanor changed once in hand. She was sweet and flirty at first. Changed to hurry up mode after. Don't do that. Are you going to come yet. Would fight me with her legs to not get deeper penetration. Their first stable of girls were great. Eastern European with great attention attitude and service. Not sure what went wrong.

    https://matchlessbeauties.com/escorts/bonnie/

  7. #2417

    Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    Glad you had a nice time but there are so many GFE options out there at around $300, not sure what Tiffany offers that's worth an extra $.

    FWIW, the Eros GFE section has quite a few hotties at the 300 level and, with a little homework on this forum and the oThER site, you should be able to find even better values.

    http://www.eros.com/washington_dc/se...fe_escorts.htm
    Thanks for the advice but I'm happy with my choice and hope members appreciate the contribution. I've posted many reviews on the other site as well so that we all can review and make our own informed choices.

  8. #2416
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1982

    Plenty of GFE options for less

    Quote Originally Posted by Sfrancis118  [View Original Post]
    Had a chance to meet her last week and was not disappointed. Tiffany has a great body smile and personality. My time with her felt sincere and unrushed. Dfk BBBJ 69 daty fiv fia were enjoyed. Wouldn't do a stripper slide but still a great experience. A little more than typical agencies at 400 but worth it IMO. I plan to repeat.

    http://ame.companionfiles.com/models/34227
    Glad you had a nice time but there are so many GFE options out there at around $300, not sure what Tiffany offers that's worth an extra $.

    FWIW, the Eros GFE section has quite a few hotties at the 300 level and, with a little homework on this forum and the oThER site, you should be able to find even better values.

    http://www.eros.com/washington_dc/se...fe_escorts.htm

  9. #2415

    Might have some $ to spend on quality.

    Great reviews on her. What part of NO Va does she host? Hard to qualify for a visit?

    Thanks for any info.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sfrancis118  [View Original Post]
    Had a chance to meet her last week and was not disappointed. Tiffany has a great body smile and personality. My time with her felt sincere and unrushed. Dfk BBBJ 69 daty fiv fia were enjoyed. Wouldn't do a stripper slide but still a great experience. A little more than typical agencies at 400 but worth it IMO. I plan to repeat.

    http://ame.companionfiles.com/models/34227

  10. #2414

    Jamie Jinxy

    She mentioned that she loves this site and that she is a member here under the screen name jamiejinxy.

    I saw her last week as I found out that she would be in town for a few days and seeing all the positive reviews, and I must agree with everything.

    She was simply amazing. Probably the most accommodating provider that I had ever had the pleasure of spending time with. She really goes the extra mile to make you feel comfortable and the entire session was all about making sure that I left happy.

    Her rates were "standard", but she provided much more than the typical service you typically get for that rate.

    I also really like her appearance, but you may have different taste. She is a curvy woman.

    Here is her website: http://jamieinsaratoga.com/home.

    The downside? She is gone, and doesn't plan on coming back often. She said her next trip down would be in November.

  11. #2413

    Brooks

    757XXX8259 Anyone have any info on her; we were communicating and then she just stopped. Maybe in the Manassas area.
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  12. #2412

    Tiffany Michaels

    Had a chance to meet her last week and was not disappointed. Tiffany has a great body smile and personality. My time with her felt sincere and unrushed. Dfk BBBJ 69 daty fiv fia were enjoyed. Wouldn't do a stripper slide but still a great experience. A little more than typical agencies at 400 but worth it IMO. I plan to repeat.

    http://ame.companionfiles.com/models/34227

  13. #2411

    You can record?!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElberGonzalez  [View Original Post]
    After a forced break from the scene I found time to get screenshots from my last wonderful session with Val, if you like tall and don't mind the extra pounds you won't regret seeing her now she is in Arlington with apparently new look.
    I saw her once back in November. Didn't know she lets you record the session!

  14. #2410

    Gfe+

    Quote Originally Posted by Pcpc1688  [View Original Post]
    Usually nothing. Its just an extra 40 for the house and the girl may not get an extra dolla.

    PC out.
    Are! M j included.

  15. #2409
    Quote Originally Posted by Heelman69  [View Original Post]
    I have been looking at the various Asian agencies and they all seem to give a price for GFE at say 220 then GFE+ for 260. Can someone enlighten me as to what the difference is (other than $40.) PM is fine. Thanks.

    Heelman.
    Usually nothing. Its just an extra 40 for the house and the girl may not get an extra dolla.

    PC out.

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