Massage Parlor Reports

[JackRabbit2]

Clearing the air??

It is not all about the money for me, some of these girls don't give good massages because they are lazy, just because they are the pretty one you pick doesn't get them the pot of gold. Plus I've noticed that some want more than an escorts BJ for a HJ.

Fine, if they want to be that way, I moved on and will get the occasional massage from a good mp and absolutely no expectations of anything else. Then see a good escort for the extras.

When I left the MP curcuit in Grand Rapids they all lost money. And I'm not the only one that has left, so all of the gps has cost them more revenue in the long run.

Happy Hobbying with GrandRapids escorts for extras not MPs.

No harm intended from letter one. I don't believe this was all necessary. Once again I am usually a silent background observer. I have learned many things here. Hell I have learned a lot from different girls and shops. When I tipped a full $ for the service it was not just for a massage.

*Yes the room was clean. That gets credit. But I walked through a dirty shop to get to it. Pile of dishes and filthy floors with trash all over. In her room I know that the towels have been cleaned and not just flipped over.

*Yes I paid extra for starting a massage with a massage instead of bickering about a menu. As things were moving along with talk and feel it must have warmed up in the room. I could tell because she got comfy. All while having an intelligent conversation and a massage I wanted. Sometimes I need a powerful massage and sometimes I want my hair to stand straight up and I'm ready for a flip.

*upon being cleaned up with clean hot towels I flip and still so pocket picking. Gouging for a shirt or roaming into a volcano. She did hand me hand sanitizer and I got the point. Really!! Very nice.

*A HJ with a smile, grin, wink, nibble and speed rate by my breath and look. It's so good I don't care if she is not DD. Her hands and or a body slide are close to the feel yet safe without a cover.

*After the cleanup I also have a choice to finish with cuddling, massage or shower. My choice. I am not hurried along.

*Many times I call days ahead so that I can see her at the time of my choice. When I do not have time to schedule and just walk in because I'm going to erupt I will walk out if she is not available and handle it myself or comeback hopefully in an hour or so.

*My home and Business are only an Hour away so I can usually accommodate. She is a busy girl and a skilled one.

*don't need a Dr. , ok, maybe a fetish, I cannot believe the stories and acting / knowledge this girl has. She is NOT like the other girls.

This is all not an advertiser for her. But it is damn sure worth one $. I have never gone to an escort and I have never been to a AMP for FS. It's not to say you cannot.

Now to add because now I'm a target. I TOFTT. This past Monday I tried a Nail / Massage place on a side road south east 2 blocks of 44th and the. AP for a full Rub was $60 and as I caressed a beautiful calf and up all I got was / not here. No. Asking for a clearer view and a more adult feel I got nothing. On my stomach I was in a full birthday suit. I did it pay to get on the table. On the chair had my phone, $$ and pillow underneath them. Still no sales on the flip. Upon the flip she then covered the bouncing wood. I pulled it to the side a few times and asked for a more beach like view. It was apparent why I was there and was going to be generous. Her name was see together with indy. Very nice but even just a great sport and good massage I donated 20.

And leaver her I did not get altoids and water. Just classy by the girl at the 44th and Kallamazo location by the name, a shade of red.

Thanks and good night. No harm no foul. Amber is a beautiful shade of red. Hope she sticks around.

[DirtyOne313]

I overlooked her because she's not Asian. He seemed to be looking for AMPs. Plus Nikki is Fugly and into some type of Candy.

Thanks for the info! I was actually hoping for non AMP. In Detroit, that seems to be all that we have.

[Benz1]

Well I will "out" myself I am a provider at a local MP. Just to clear up the misconception about how much we get from the room rate it veries from 50/50 if you are legit with a license and then it goes to $20 hour /$10 half hour if you are not licensed. The MPs also take 10% of your tips if the client tips on a credit card. We also have to pay for supplies of $10-20 a week. Oh and if the provider goes over the half hour or hour then the provider needs to cough up the portion of the room rate for the additional time. I never short my clients there time but this might be a reason why some of the other ladies do so. I troll this page just to make sure if something is said about myself I will improve upon my services. Most ladies will tell you all about the MP but please remember that they are giving you information pertinent to them and all MP providers are not the same.

Clearing the air??

It is not all about the money for me, some of these girls don't give good massages because they are lazy, just because they are the pretty one you pick doesn't get them the pot of gold. Plus I've noticed that some want more than an escorts BJ for a HJ.

Fine, if they want to be that way, I moved on and will get the occasional massage from a good mp and absolutely no expectations of anything else. Then see a good escort for the extras.

When I left the MP curcuit in Grand Rapids they all lost money. And I'm not the only one that has left, so all of the gps has cost them more revenue in the long run.

Happy Hobbying with GrandRapids escorts for extras not MPs.

[Dddinks]

Benz is right. Any girl that says they don't get any of the door fee is blowing smoke up your ass. I've seen Mama Dee, Jenifer and Kiet hand the girls their cut of the door fee. Some girls get 40 of the 60 for an hour because they "supervise" or bring in a lot of business.

The MP splits 50/50. The honest ones will tell you the truth.

Well I will "out" myself I am a provider at a local MP. Just to clear up the misconception about how much we get from the room rate it veries from 50/50 if you are legit with a license and then it goes to $20 hour /$10 half hour if you are not licensed. The MPs also take 10% of your tips if the client tips on a credit card. We also have to pay for supplies of $10-20 a week. Oh and if the provider goes over the half hour or hour then the provider needs to cough up the portion of the room rate for the additional time. I never short my clients there time but this might be a reason why some of the other ladies do so. I troll this page just to make sure if something is said about myself I will improve upon my services. Most ladies will tell you all about the MP but please remember that they are giving you information pertinent to them and all MP providers are not the same.

[NoseJelly]

They are lying to you Tom. Why not? You wouldn't tip as much if you know the truth.

They get half of the door fee. The MP splits 50/50. The honest ones will tell you the truth.

Benz is right. Any girl that says they don't get any of the door fee is blowing smoke up your ass. I've seen Mama Dee, Jenifer and Kiet hand the girls their cut of the door fee. Some girls get 40 of the 60 for an hour because they "supervise" or bring in a lot of business.

[Benz1]

As far as I understand these joints, the girl gets nothing from the time fee. That goes 100% to the house. The girls work solely for tips. That's based on the conversations I have at places I frequent, and the girls usually know me pretty well, and are generally open about their job, life and such.

In any case, my tip standard is same as the time charge. That's mostly $40 half hour, $40 tip. And for that, I expect a standard rub and tug experience, with a fun, fit, young woman who gets naked or nearly so and welcomes roaming throughout the session. If I really enjoy a girl or session, I will sometimes throw in another $20.

At that level of tipping, even the busy girls are not making $60 an hour, because there is down time between every session, and even the most requested girls can sit idle for half the time they are at the parlor. After you break it all down, it is easy money, but not really big money these girls are making.

I would be interested to hear, though, if my tipping level is about standard, or am I contributing to GPS. Please post or PM.

They are lying to you Tom. Why not? You wouldn't tip as much if you know the truth.

They get half of the door fee. The MP splits 50/50. The honest ones will tell you the truth.

[Monger01]

As far as I understand these joints, the girl gets nothing from the time fee. That goes 100% to the house. The girls work solely for tips. That's based on the conversations I have at places I frequent, and the girls usually know me pretty well, and are generally open about their job, life and such.

In any case, my tip standard is same as the time charge. That's mostly $40 half hour, $40 tip. And for that, I expect a standard rub and tug experience, with a fun, fit, young woman who gets naked or nearly so and welcomes roaming throughout the session. If I really enjoy a girl or session, I will sometimes throw in another $20.

At that level of tipping, even the busy girls are not making $60 an hour, because there is down time between every session, and even the most requested girls can sit idle for half the time they are at the parlor. After you break it all down, it is easy money, but not really big money these girls are making.

I would be interested to hear, though, if my tipping level is about standard, or am I contributing to GPS. Please post or PM.

Your tip level is exactly what I do. I drop to 20 if its half-assed massage or HE.

I'll go to 80 only for BBBJ or FS but that's a very rare menu item so seldom happens.

[Tom70]

A MP gets 60. Sure the gal will only get a cut of that, as expected. It's not a $60/ hr job.

As far as I understand these joints, the girl gets nothing from the time fee. That goes 100% to the house. The girls work solely for tips. That's based on the conversations I have at places I frequent, and the girls usually know me pretty well, and are generally open about their job, life and such.

In any case, my tip standard is same as the time charge. That's mostly $40 half hour, $40 tip. And for that, I expect a standard rub and tug experience, with a fun, fit, young woman who gets naked or nearly so and welcomes roaming throughout the session. If I really enjoy a girl or session, I will sometimes throw in another $20.

At that level of tipping, even the busy girls are not making $60 an hour, because there is down time between every session, and even the most requested girls can sit idle for half the time they are at the parlor. After you break it all down, it is easy money, but not really big money these girls are making.

I would be interested to hear, though, if my tipping level is about standard, or am I contributing to GPS. Please post or PM.

[NoseJelly]

I thought LA was shut down?

It was open in Oct / Nov when I last went. They get raided and shut down about every 2 years and always reopen. They are super paranoid on your first visit because of the history, but sweet as pie after the know you are cool.

[NoseJelly]

He overlooked Nicole or Nikki. She doesn't do it for me. Way too big. But she will FS and BBBJ. She's usually at Mama Dees (Holland), or East West.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Fema...-eyes/23676642

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Fema...nikka/23666402

I overlooked her because she's not Asian. He seemed to be looking for AMPs. Plus Nikki is Fugly and into some type of Candy.

[Mr Cruzer]

This one looked inviting yesterday, when I called her she sounded inviting too. One of her ads said nude massage.

Directions lead me to a private apartment south of 44 off Kalamazoo. Nice neighborhood ok incall.

No massage table availble, Bed was made with what appeared to be a clean cover.

Biker type, rough around the edges and maybe the middle too. Not my type. Bigger girl, not a BBW.

The pic is not her ass, if it looked like the pic on BP I might have stayed.

So I kinda toftt, I didn't go any further than the hallway. Saved my $70 and hopefully giving you a heads up before you call.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Ther...uches/21770525

I've suspected that this is Lenna, who was at Momma Dees in Holland, then went on her own to a house in GR near the Zoo. If it is, there were numerous reports of her being a total rip off; tremendous upsell, then took their money, no ms, no he, nothing. Also advertises as Snow. Saw her once at Momma Ds; older blonde (probably a looker in her youth), rushed, but I made her go thru the motions with a MS and a HE.

[Monger01]

Stop at the Hawaii Health Spa in Charlotte, on Lansing Rd off from I-69 on your way to GR. Table shower, sauna, full open menu. Then stop at LA Spa, Portland exit off from 96 W. Koreans with open menu. No table shower or sauna. Once in GR there are No true AMPs with open menus.

Enjoy your drive.

NJ.

I thought LA was shut down?

[Bloozer]

Stop at the Hawaii Health Spa in Charlotte, on Lansing Rd off from I-69 on your way to GR. Table shower, sauna, full open menu. Then stop at LA Spa, Portland exit off from 96 W. Koreans with open menu. No table shower or sauna. Once in GR there are No true AMPs with open menus.

Enjoy your drive.

NJ.

He overlooked Nicole or Nikki. She doesn't do it for me. Way too big. But she will FS and BBBJ. She's usually at Mama Dees (Holland), or East West.

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Fema...-eyes/23676642

http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Fema...nikka/23666402

[NoseJelly]

Hello GR mongers! Detroit area guy here thinking about heading out your way because of all of the non AMP options. Which ones are the best to visit and which ones have open menus. If you don't have comfortable posting here, please PM!

Stop at the Hawaii Health Spa in Charlotte, on Lansing Rd off from I-69 on your way to GR. Table shower, sauna, full open menu. Then stop at LA Spa, Portland exit off from 96 W. Koreans with open menu. No table shower or sauna. Once in GR there are No true AMPs with open menus.

Enjoy your drive.

NJ.

[Charlie441]

It costs 60 to get in the door. A MP does not get that. Only a portion. For a straight massage you should leave behind 15 automatically. Anywhere you go. Even if she is ugly and over weight. Then ad to that a conversation that is English, knowledgeable and of interest to you. Add 15.

A MP gets 60. Sure the gal will only get a cut of that, as expected. It's not a $60/ hr job. Do you tip a waitress because the table is clean? There are some things to be expected. You're generous. But you're not more a gentleman to tip 50% to a waitress for adequate / par service than a guy tipping 28%. Just more generous. The argument is about Good, Fair Market Price vs Excessive Market Price. When too many guys pay excessive market price, GPS develops.

You do not make a good case for justifying why it should be Deservingly that high.

You should keep the price up so the girls have self respect and get less work. Cleaner for all. And less busy.

That I see logic in. But $60 for a massage + $40-$50 for a HJ depending on her looks, massage skill, and usage of time is a good, fair market price. You're acting like it is bare bones that any guy off the street is willing to pay, as if it's a steal. It's not. That is keeping the price up to not let any riff raff come waltzing in all the time.

Don't be an ass. As often as you post, if you don't have $$ stay home.

But by your logic, if you can't pay $500 for a massage and a HJ at the end, even if she's ugly & overweight as you put it, then you should stay home if you don't have the $$. Obviously that would be ridiculous to say. So really, the argument is just about what is a good, fair market price as the baseline and to keep the riff raff away. $100 out the door for 50 minutes keeps it high for just a massage and a wack-a-doo at the end.