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  1. #6403

    Under the EL

    You have to be especially careful in daylight around those areas. I may sound paranoid or fearful but if one SW OD's or is bludgeon and you were the last phone call RECEIVED on her phone? Many will tell you the get entangled in ugly situations by demented individuals. Listen, I had SW who I took to my personal residence in Lower Bucks and what happened? Early morning hours BANG BANG on my door. Yes they do remember your tag, house, name and exact address you went too. I have say 8 houses down the way and some of the SW say hey I remember you; we went to 123 Main st. I am just saying to be smart. We all as a group can have fun but my liberty, security and overall health will not be jeopardized by a SW. Many SW's are evil, will rob you, make a scene etc. They have nothing to lose and we have MUCH to lose.

  2. #6402

    Promoting prostitution

    If a provider is OK with sharing her number, why not? They all use burner phones also, and everyone here is anonymous, so I don't see where there's a problem. Sharing with senior members who have a track record of sharing information on experiences is one reason for this board.

    Quote Originally Posted by NvrStlPhilly  [View Original Post]
    I personally won't trade any number with someone who I really don't know. My fear is "promoting prostitution". If a liberal / conservative decides to bust someone it is NOT going to be me.

  3. #6401

    What is the logic? Fear?

    Quote Originally Posted by NvrStlPhilly  [View Original Post]
    I read PA code too.
    You read PA code and came to the conclusion that sharing girl's phone numbers via private email here constituted "promoting prostitution?" Huh? Could you explain that, as I'd be interested in the logic behind that conclusion?

    Quote Originally Posted by NvrStlPhilly  [View Original Post]
    Listen, just like Craig's list, cannibal cop, and internet porn along with the like. The cops, FBI etc. Have a record of every post, every email and every log on. Be smart.
    Eh, don't be paranoid. Patronizing is still a misdemeanor crime and while it might make sense for LE to troll these boards to watch for incidences of slavery or age related things, it makes no sense to collect info on individual mongers. Er, unless one is privy to a secret task force that has the money to look into this? But I can't imagine who here is engaged in hiring prostitutes or paying for sex? Guess the 23 rules of BP-ing haven't sunk in?

    Look, if I get stopped how do you think LE is going to tie my real person to some posts here? Legally they can not do it without a warrant or subpoena. Both of those are too time consuming or costly to undertake to snare ONE dude on a misdemeanor charge. But hey, deal drugs, promote prostitution, traffic girls or some other felony offense and the warrants or subpoenas will be issued.

    Then again, I am not sure a judge will grant a search warrant for an anonymous internet screen name like NvrStlPhilly. Seems like that is fishing. But hey, I'm no lawyer so I could be wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by NvrStlPhilly  [View Original Post]
    I grew up with many outlaws and first sentence is I want an ATTORNEY! Don't say a word, don't tell details online.
    While your advice isn't incorrect, one does need to cooperate with LE to some extent. Still the best advice out there is the Video, easily found on YouTube: Busted: A Citizen's Guide to.... But, hey watching it takes time and effort. Its prolly better to skip some dumb "book learning" exercise and just figure it out through a series of arrests and bad encounters with LE.

    Quote Originally Posted by NvrStlPhilly  [View Original Post]
    Of course we can buddy up and communicate but NOT in the open air (internet). Use discretion. Be smart.
    Look, as I said on another forum the other day, if the gubmint wants to get your they have the resources to do so. So don't do anything illegal to become a target! BUT, If one is so afraid of posting here for fear of what might be discovered, then I think your wisest move would be to cease posting at all!

    I'm just sayin'.

  4. #6400
    Senior Member


    Posts: 259
    Agreed we all should be careful but asking for number or digits of a hot blonde is far from promoting anything with money. Heck if it were illegal to get and give out a women s phone.

    Numbers every man in this country would be guilty and some women too. How many times in life has a friend or his girlfriend said hey. Do you want her friends number! Its what.

    Transpires after that that determines whether a illegal act occurs.

    I travel a bit around the country so I do request help and I have given help and comments and past experiences. If you travel the way I do, being a senior member is a god sent, nothing.

    Like getting off the plane in a strange city and knowing someone already reviewed is going to stop by, thanks in part to a senior member here. Also this is done through PM's and.

    Straight e-mail, all calls are by monger phone, and why would one not be respectful. One does not generally get what they are looking for being rude or nasty.

    As I said this seems to be a regional thing, as I come from the tri state area NY, NJ, PA area and now relocated in FL, I see the difference. Also the difference on craigslist lot less.

    Phoney and fakes. I have a friend in NJ who I share numbers with and a senior member here, our thoughts are 4 eyes are better than two and we can be in different places at different times.

    On a daily basis we really don't need anyone assistance. But when we travel to areas outside our range it would be nice to share, if you don't want to share DON'T POST YOU GOT.

    DIGITS.

    Simple as that.

    Enjoy and stay safe.

  5. #6399

    Look Pro SE

    Quote Originally Posted by CephlapodLove  [View Original Post]
    It is easy to "think" one is doing something illegal if one is not knowledgeable of the law or facts. What may seem bad in common terms is often not interpreted that way by the law.

    So here is the PA Code on promoting:

    (b) Promoting prostitution. A person who knowingly promotes
    Prostitution of another commits a misdemeanor or felony as
    provided in subsection (c) of this section. The following acts
    shall, without limitation of the foregoing, constitute promoting
    Prostitution:

    (1) owning, controlling, managing, supervising or.
    otherwise keeping, alone or in association with others, a
    house of prostitution or a prostitution business.

    (2) procuring an inmate for a house of prostitution or a
    place in a house of prostitution for one who would be an
    Inmate;.

    (3) encouraging, inducing, or otherwise intentionally
    causing another to become or remain a prostitute;.

    (4) soliciting a person to patronize a prostitute;.

    (5) procuring a prostitute for a patron;.

    (6) transporting a person into or within this
    Commonwealth with intent to promote the engaging in
    Prostitution by that person, or procuring or paying for
    transportation with that intent;.

    (7) leasing or otherwise permitting a place controlled
    by the actor, alone or in association with others, to be
    regularly used for prostitution or the promotion of
    Prostitution, or failure to make reasonable effort to abate
    such use by ejecting the tenant, notifying law enforcement
    Authorities, or other legally available means; or.

    (8) soliciting, receiving, or agreeing to receive any
    benefit for doing or agreeing to do anything forbidden by
    this subsection.

    So you all and your attorneys decide if soliciting a person to patronize a prostitute can be derived from sharing telephone numbers of a girl? In my opinion, fwiw, it appears as if the definition of "soliciting" is key here. If you do not "solicit" some one to visit a prostitute, in my opinion, it appears as though one would be OK.

    But hey, that is just my opinion and not the opinion of a lawyer, so take it for what it is. It should not be construed as advice in any shape or form, just an opinion.

    Full PA Code section on Prostitution is here:

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...tn=2&subsctn=0
    I read PA code too. Listen, just like Craig's list, cannibal cop, and internet porn along with the like. The cops, FBI etc. Have a record of every post, every email and every log on. Be smart. I grew up with many outlaws and first sentence is I want an ATTORNEY! Don't say a word, don't tell details online. Of course we can buddy up and communicate but NOT in the open air (internet). Use discretion. Be smart.

  6. #6398

    Message

    Quote Originally Posted by Gator145  [View Original Post]
    I support your choices 100%. You can never be to cautious. But as a senior member you have a pretty good idea who to trust on here. I very rarely ask for contact info on here for any number of reasons. None has to do with fear of who I'm dealing with. Over the years I have formed a trust with many members here that works well for me. There are simple ways to share info with those you know and don't know without putting yourself in jeopardy. Never ever promote prostitution or any other sexual activity. With someone unknown to you.

    When sharing contact info just refer to the info as a meeting. What happens after the meeting you have no control over. That responsibility falls squarely upon the shoulders of the recipient. When involved in this activity there is always a certain amount of common sense one must use. Think before you jump. Look before you cross. Think before you open your mouth. All stuff mom taught us.

    Another safety precaution is as having two phones. One disposable with no connecting info to you. This number can be used as a playmate phone. Use this phone for all activity you don't wish on your private line.

    I and many I know adhere to this policy like glue. That's just two safety measures one can take to be safe. Please feel free to offer any other suggestions other Mongers may have. Always delete any incriminating text. Never ever let the phone out of your sight unless it is locked.

    Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
    Tried to pm you, your inbox is full.

  7. #6397

    Really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bbctrev  [View Original Post]
    Hello I'm from the Connecticut boards. Going to be visiting the Philly area this weekend. I've been reading all the good info you all been posting but I'm unfamiliar with all the street and area abbreviations that's being used. Can someone pm me and point me in the right direction for my best bet to look for LSW's? I promise to post anything I find to contribute. Any help would be appreciated.
    Hate to be "that guy" but if you have been reading the boards, I wonder how you missed the answer to that question, since it gets rehashed here every other month or so. Shoot trying going to the MAIN Philly page and scrolling down to the user blogs and MAYBE, just MAYBE one will find what they need?

    It gets so frustrating spoon feeding all that wander in here and want info. Sigh. Nothing ever comes back: not a "thanks for pointing me in the right direction", nor a report on what was found or wasn't found. Just give me, give me, give me!

    I shudder to think how these dudes are gunna fare on the Streets, if this is their level of awareness?

    Oh wait, more "rip-off" reports coming, no doubt. Sigh.

  8. #6396

    Know the Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by NvrStlPhilly  [View Original Post]
    I personally won't trade any number with someone who I really don't know. My fear is "promoting prostitution". If a liberal / conservative decides to bust someone it is NOT going to be me.
    It is easy to "think" one is doing something illegal if one is not knowledgeable of the law or facts. What may seem bad in common terms is often not interpreted that way by the law.

    So here is the PA Code on promoting:

    (b) Promoting prostitution. A person who knowingly promotes
    Prostitution of another commits a misdemeanor or felony as
    provided in subsection (c) of this section. The following acts
    shall, without limitation of the foregoing, constitute promoting
    Prostitution:

    (1) owning, controlling, managing, supervising or.
    otherwise keeping, alone or in association with others, a
    house of prostitution or a prostitution business.

    (2) procuring an inmate for a house of prostitution or a
    place in a house of prostitution for one who would be an
    Inmate;.

    (3) encouraging, inducing, or otherwise intentionally
    causing another to become or remain a prostitute;.

    (4) soliciting a person to patronize a prostitute;.

    (5) procuring a prostitute for a patron;.

    (6) transporting a person into or within this
    Commonwealth with intent to promote the engaging in
    Prostitution by that person, or procuring or paying for
    transportation with that intent;.

    (7) leasing or otherwise permitting a place controlled
    by the actor, alone or in association with others, to be
    regularly used for prostitution or the promotion of
    Prostitution, or failure to make reasonable effort to abate
    such use by ejecting the tenant, notifying law enforcement
    Authorities, or other legally available means; or.

    (8) soliciting, receiving, or agreeing to receive any
    benefit for doing or agreeing to do anything forbidden by
    this subsection.

    So you all and your attorneys decide if [I]soliciting a person to patronize a prostitute[/ I] can be derived from sharing telephone numbers of a girl? In my opinion, fwiw, it appears as if the definition of "soliciting" is key here. If you do not "solicit" some one to visit a prostitute, in my opinion, it appears as though one would be OK.

    But hey, that is just my opinion and not the opinion of a lawyer, so take it for what it is. It should not be construed as advice in any shape or form, just an opinion.

    Full PA Code section on Prostitution is here:

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...tn=2&subsctn=0

  9. #6395

    Need Help

    Hello I'm from the Connecticut boards. Going to be visiting the Philly area this weekend. I've been reading all the good info you all been posting but I'm unfamiliar with all the street and area abbreviations that's being used. Can someone pm me and point me in the right direction for my best bet to look for LSW's? I promise to post anything I find to contribute. Any help would be appreciated.

  10. #6394

    Admiration

    Quote Originally Posted by Gator145  [View Original Post]
    I support your choices 100%. You can never be to cautious. But as a senior member you have a pretty good idea who to trust on here. I very rarely ask for contact info on here for any number of reasons. None has to do with fear of who I'm dealing with. Over the years I have formed a trust with many members here that works well for me. There are simple ways to share info with those you know and don't know without putting yourself in jeopardy. Never ever promote prostitution or any other sexual activity. With someone unknown to you.

    When sharing contact info just refer to the info as a meeting. What happens after the meeting you have no control over. That responsibility falls squarely upon the shoulders of the recipient. When involved in this activity there is always a certain amount of common sense one must use. Think before you jump. Look before you cross. Think before you open your mouth. All stuff mom taught us.

    Another safety precaution is as having two phones. One disposable with no connecting info to you. This number can be used as a playmate phone. Use this phone for all activity you don't wish on your private line.

    I and many I know adhere to this policy like glue. That's just two safety measures one can take to be safe. Please feel free to offer any other suggestions other Mongers may have. Always delete any incriminating text. Never ever let the phone out of your sight unless it is locked.

    Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
    I admire you and CJ for all you guys do out there. True thing!. Everything you said is right and I've been locked up before so I definitely am aware of those guidelines you pointed out there in the last paragraph. Fellas you got to follow these steps and not just think about instant gratification instantly. In an attempt you can be locked up. Tell your boy down there to chill out and just wait. Respeckkkkk!

  11. #6393

    Contact info

    Quote Originally Posted by NvrStlPhilly  [View Original Post]
    I personally won't trade any number with someone who I really don't know. My fear is "promoting prostitution". If a liberal / conservative decides to bust someone it is NOT going to be me.
    I support your choices 100%. You can never be to cautious. But as a senior member you have a pretty good idea who to trust on here. I very rarely ask for contact info on here for any number of reasons. None has to do with fear of who I'm dealing with. Over the years I have formed a trust with many members here that works well for me. There are simple ways to share info with those you know and don't know without putting yourself in jeopardy. Never ever promote prostitution or any other sexual activity. With someone unknown to you.

    When sharing contact info just refer to the info as a meeting. What happens after the meeting you have no control over. That responsibility falls squarely upon the shoulders of the recipient. When involved in this activity there is always a certain amount of common sense one must use. Think before you jump. Look before you cross. Think before you open your mouth. All stuff mom taught us.

    Another safety precaution is as having two phones. One disposable with no connecting info to you. This number can be used as a playmate phone. Use this phone for all activity you don't wish on your private line.

    I and many I know adhere to this policy like glue. That's just two safety measures one can take to be safe. Please feel free to offer any other suggestions other Mongers may have. Always delete any incriminating text. Never ever let the phone out of your sight unless it is locked.

    Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

  12. #6392

    My Humble Opinion

    Quote Originally Posted by CephlapodLove  [View Original Post]
    The man speaks the truth and has some good guidance!
    I personally won't trade any number with someone who I really don't know. My fear is "promoting prostitution". If a liberal / conservative decides to bust someone it is NOT going to be me.

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  14. #6390

    Listen Up!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gator145  [View Original Post]
    Only person who tried is gator. Even tho the girls he shows me are ugly He tries at least.

    I asked for info maybe 2 or 3 girls maximum on this site and got nothing in return.

    So why should I help if you guys don't do shit for me.

    Oh well I guess that says it all about loyalty on here. CTFU. I know what you're talking about here. There are guys that literally beg for info on here and contribute nothing either publicly or privately. Yet they want guys to assist them in getting their dick sucked. One would think they never had a woman before and now they want the Monger Gods to shine on their parade. There is a certain amount of common courtesy one should use when they are asking a favor of another member. Be that member a senior or regular.

    First and foremost respect the info and knowledge of the person the request is being made of. Remember he has something you don't and that you want. You will never get it by being an asshole. What he has that you most likely want he acquired at some legal risk to himself. Now it would be nice to offer the Monger a number in exchange for what you are asking of him. After all there's no good reason I can see for him to share what he has if you offer nothing in return for his service.

    Second if your request has been reasonably met show your appreciation. By that I mean if you contact the girl, send the Monger a PM and let him know how things went.

    Don't be afraid to write a report / review and let others know of your adventure. That is what the site is all about. Sharing information. It's really not a lot to ask.

    There's a certain code all of us should follow. That is to keep the site interesting enough and informative enough to function the way it should.

    Hoarding phone numbers while they are on does nobody any good. Especially the girl. She's the one that suffers not the Monger. So why not put the girl in touch with potential business. Just something that keeps the wheels of the site turning.

    Everybody needs to do their part. There are a bunch of do nothings on here that continually have their hand out and there is never anything in it. They know who they are. They are the takers and not the givers. So if you can't be a giver as well as a taker don't ask for assistance. Keeping in the front of you mind that dick will not suck itself. You may agree or disagree and I really don't give a shit, but we all need each other here to move forward. I agree with Sacramento to a degree. Yet it's not fair to all involved in particular the girl to lump everybody into the same bowl of soup. Some just need a nudge. So give them the opportunity to contribute back. Allow them once or twice to prove themselves. If they prove to be useless takers like some are the best you can do is share that info with other senior members so they can also avoid any pitfalls with that person.

    I have shared info with many mongers here. And will continue to assist where I can. Most I will say are very respectful. They either PM me and tell me how things went or contact me through other means. Yes there are the losers that just would never do the right thing. Those are the ones to be avoided. The only way to find out is trial and error. Nobody that is a taker will come right out and say "Hey I'm a loser". We need to find that out on our own. It's easy enough cause losers are born fuck ups any way. They will show their colors.

    Nobody and I mean nobody on this site owes any other Monger anything. Nothing here is required to maintain any membership. So when a Monger shares anything of any substantial value keep in mind he's doing it because he wants to not because he has to. That pertains to anything from a review to sharing contact info. It would do all involved a great service to maintain the thought if you want something give something. It's only fair. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
    The man speaks the truth and has some good guidance!

  15. #6389
    Quote Originally Posted by Tekken7  [View Original Post]
    Meet a WSW named Christina / Heather. Late 20's very attractive, very clean and well educated. She is too good to be working on the ave. I thought she was a civi first. I meet her by huntingdon and jasper. She said she usually don't go out here. She usually see her regulars. Date went very well I will gladly repeat. Damage FS 30.
    Is that DE Christina out on the Philly Strolls?

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