The Massholes

[Toujula]

Claims that he served in the you. S army in the 80's all lies. Just trying to befriend good veterans mongers to set them up on parlor raids and stings. How heartless.

Please be warned fellow mongers, avoid trading intel with this LE RAT who's openly admitted to another monger he is such because he couldn't hold back his anger in a discussion.

YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.

Sorry you feel that way but-eh whatever.

[Toujula]

Yeah yeah yeah, RAT, we already your pedigree.

This is the same guy that lies about serving in the armed forces to gain trust and friendship of old veterans. And what does he do with that trust, notoriously betray you like a communist infiltrator by exchaning intel and have you get caught up in a raid.

You've been warned severely about this RAT, Nrlmus, who is actually known as LEO,. LEO the Parlor RAT is what you guys should call this guy.

You would be dam foolish if you were to trade intel with this guy after some have come forward telling you they're disengaging from this lying son of a *****.

He claimed to serve in the army in the 80's. A big lie.

YOU'VE BEEN WARNED MONGERS, BE WARRY OF THE THE PARLOR RAT, LEO, A. K. A Nrlmus.

Be very careful guys when trading with this character. There is an apparent violent streak there. Remember the Indian massage girl from Merrimack valley. Obviously Admin decided that bouncing Toujula again is fruitless proposition. He'd just return under different name. So the devil that we know, etc, etc.

Toujula says he successfully traded with many hobbyists. I'm sure all of us would love to hear from those hobbyists and their experiences.

Let's also hope those hobbyists would not be a bunch of new sign-ups (I too can sign up with 1000 different names and give myself some awesome pep talks) but actually those hobbyists that have a reasonable chance to be considered trustworthy by the rest of our community.

[Nrlmus]

I've shared with plenty of mongers. If I don't reply to you and you become a jerk off about it because you're too desperate a schmuck who can't be patient or look at my reports, then tough luck,.

And believe me, I am all for sharing but with some mongers, sorry, it doesn't apply, you over tippers, you arrogant pricks causing the inflation that infuriates me. You are quick to jump on a monger who shares intell on a previous encounter with a provider and you ridicule them for trying to negotiate a price but yet you want to help the cause.

Guys like you are vulchers and are the ones I CERTAINLY WOULD NEVER want to SHARE SHIT because I know you are too stupid to belong in this game and you are the ones ruined it for the rest of us. Before I trade intel, don't think I don't look at your posts to see what you've contributed and from your post here, ridiculing a fellow monger for trying to negotiate a price down, you sure as hell wouldn't get any sympathy from me.

I'd give you intel on a cheap provider, you're the dumb ones who'd go in and inflate the price by over tipping even if I gave you the specifics on how much you can pay to get what. But no, guys like you would think she deserves more or by over tipping, you're going to get better service or lock her in. WRONG. Not my policy, not my philosophy, not my way of thinking. I cannot stand you guys.

You want to talk about me not contributing, what exactly have you contributed besides leading newbies or fellow mongers into a ditch to paying high prices for low end services. Go sit somewhere with your loud barking but no bite. You're off my list son, go get your BJs for you over inflated. 80 prices while I get mine for 30-40. For 80, I'm swimming in the pussy at ease for FS. Hell, I get it for less then that, wouldn't you like to know these places that offered it.

This is one of Jack617' replying to a fellow monger. Listen to how he suggests the guy pay a jacked up price for a lousy blow job. Are you guys kidding me, 80 for a freaking BJ, ahahaha, my goodness, how ridiculous. How the hell do you guys get caught up in these outrageous prices, seriously.

"I respectfully disagree with Seek on this. A covered blowjob, Saran or condom, should cost you a $60 tip. Take the cover off and maybe we get in the $80 range with cim and then jump to $100 for FS. Been doing this a long long time and the above tipping schedule has served me well and I frequently get invited back.

The bottom line is its your money, tip as you see fit knowing the size of the tip can effect performance etc. If I had to venture a guess I would bet you would be warmly welcomed back at this establishment. ".

Be very careful guys when trading with this character. There is an apparent violent streak there. Remember the Indian massage girl from Merrimack valley. Obviously Admin decided that bouncing Toujula again is fruitless proposition. He'd just return under different name. So the devil that we know, etc, etc.

Toujula says he successfully traded with many hobbyists. I'm sure all of us would love to hear from those hobbyists and their experiences.

Let's also hope those hobbyists would not be a bunch of new sign-ups (I too can sign up with 1000 different names and give myself some awesome pep talks) but actually those hobbyists that have a reasonable chance to be considered trustworthy by the rest of our community.

[Toujula]

I've shared with plenty of mongers. If I don't reply to you and you become a jerk off about it because you're too desperate a schmuck who can't be patient or look at my reports, then tough luck,.

And believe me, I am all for sharing but with some mongers, sorry, it doesn't apply, you over tippers, you arrogant pricks causing the inflation that infuriates me. You are quick to jump on a monger who shares intell on a previous encounter with a provider and you ridicule them for trying to negotiate a price but yet you want to help the cause.

Guys like you are vulchers and are the ones I CERTAINLY WOULD NEVER want to SHARE SHIT because I know you are too stupid to belong in this game and you are the ones ruined it for the rest of us. Before I trade intel, don't think I don't look at your posts to see what you've contributed and from your post here, ridiculing a fellow monger for trying to negotiate a price down, you sure as hell wouldn't get any sympathy from me.

I'd give you intel on a cheap provider, you're the dumb ones who'd go in and inflate the price by over tipping even if I gave you the specifics on how much you can pay to get what. But no, guys like you would think she deserves more or by over tipping, you're going to get better service or lock her in. WRONG. Not my policy, not my philosophy, not my way of thinking. I cannot stand you guys.

You want to talk about me not contributing, what exactly have you contributed besides leading newbies or fellow mongers into a ditch to paying high prices for low end services. Go sit somewhere with your loud barking but no bite. You're off my list son, go get your BJs for you over inflated. 80 prices while I get mine for 30-40. For 80, I'm swimming in the pussy at ease for FS. Hell, I get it for less then that, wouldn't you like to know these places that offered it.

This is one of Jack617' replying to a fellow monger. Listen to how he suggests the guy pay a jacked up price for a lousy blow job. Are you guys kidding me, 80 for a freaking BJ, ahahaha, my goodness, how ridiculous. How the hell do you guys get caught up in these outrageous prices, seriously.

"I respectfully disagree with Seek on this. A covered blowjob, Saran or condom, should cost you a $60 tip. Take the cover off and maybe we get in the $80 range with cim and then jump to $100 for FS. Been doing this a long long time and the above tipping schedule has served me well and I frequently get invited back.

The bottom line is its your money, tip as you see fit knowing the size of the tip can effect performance etc. If I had to venture a guess I would bet you would be warmly welcomed back at this establishment. ".

At least that post was semi readable. As many may know I had a pretty lousy interaction with Negsiro / Toujula. I think the line I pulled and quoted really shows how hypocritical he really is. As far as I know he has never shared anything with anyone and yet he talks about "we" as if he is a real contributor.

[Gallo1]

Her website and ads talk much about privacy. She has a career and won't take chances. You'll have a hard time finding anyone that has met her have anything but great things to say about her. Take your chances like the rest of us did and find out for yourself.

Not one photo on the web site.

[Jack617]

We could enjoy this much more if we werent so selfish, egotistical, arrogant, ideologically stupid about it.

At least that post was semi readable. As many may know I had a pretty lousy interaction with Negsiro / Toujula. I think the line I pulled and quoted really shows how hypocritical he really is. As far as I know he has never shared anything with anyone and yet he talks about "we" as if he is a real contributor.

[Ambrose]

I think its safe to say that any of the popular sites about massage parlors where we can post reviews, share intel talk on forums and view listings of where the parlors are located, are run by the same asian cabals that have vested interest in parlors and probably own a few themselves.

How else can you explain the notorious censorship if one starts threads objecting to providers rachetness of price gouging, providers lack luster to bad service. Upsells and rip offs. We've heard and seen plenty of times where parlor reviews are manipulated by the same people that runs them, trying to bait us into their place, stating that they spent. 60 for HJ, . 80 for bjs and upwards to 140 for FS, all outrageous prices if you're this dumb. I understand some of guys are raging horny and would love nothing but to tear through some of these delicious asian pussies like a nice plate of Chinese food but the sad part is, most of the time, you're not. You're stuck in a world of bait and switch where they post pics of young pretty asian girls only to go see mostly grannies who are past their primes. But because they are smutts who loves to stroke cocks and we're raging horn balls looking for a fix, we lose all of our ability to think and allow them to take complete advantage and get the best of us. We lay on the table like a corps and get pumped up like a farm animal.

And then their goons working the websites, makes sure that they run a communist China like rule where if you speak against the status quo, your account, along with post threads, gets deleted, banned, censored or erased. But post in favor of them like an imbecile, describing how your massage by yummi, sushi and yum fucky suckie went and you over tipping, it gets bumped up and even duplicated by follow ups from their fraudulent reviews. You can always tell because they write as bad as their ad posting on craigslist or backpage or wherever they posts.

You are doing a disservice for not banding together to get more bang for your buck and stretching your dollars. When one monger stands up and advocate for reforms to better the experience for all of us, some of you are stupid enough to start with the notion that the providers are slave workers, theyre getting abused, that one is a violent guy towards women, all kinds of dumb shit to justify arguying in favor of the providers who sees you as nothing but gullible suckers and know how to play you. They are well trainned for it, by their asian men too. They act as if they don't speak english to take away your ability to negotiate better prices and services and you dumb idiots go for it and keep posting on it endlessly in your reviews. You really think these asian women do not know how to speak a word of english, being in this country this long. If they are sex slaves being forced against their will, as some of you would argue, then by visitng the parlors, you're just adding to the problem, not helping stop the business.

Its disheartening to see how this is the lowest common denominator of all things dumb about Americans. We could enjoy this much more if we werent so selfish, egotistical, arrogant, ideologically stupid about it. The asian man laughs at how he is raking in billions on this business and how dumb, horny american men are. Half of these women working at the parlors, even the ugliest buck tooth asian men wouldn't want touching their little penis but here we are, gloating, raving and over tipping their toss away meat. We suffer to get what wed really like but they enjoy getting the full experience for half the price. Its like american men, predominatly whites, do not know the real value of a beat up kunt.

If the asian man monitoring my posts to delete lets this one fly, I hope I've hit a nerve somewhere in my rambling to help you see different going forward.

This is probably your best written post. It's good to see you can write understandably when you're not speaking as a racist, it's a bit refreshing. However I have to respectfully disagree with some of your content.

1. The site is not run by people who run massage parlors, of that I am sure.

2. The censorship you are talking about has nothing to do with price gouging, bait & switch, upsells, nor bad reviews. More than likely the censorship or your deleted posts have more to do with the way you word some things. You can't make your posts sound like you're arguing, especially on a thread like massage parlors. Those posts belong only in Massholes.

3. It is highly doubtful that the person deleting your posts is Asian.

[Toujula]

I think its safe to say that any of the popular sites about massage parlors where we can post reviews, share intel talk on forums and view listings of where the parlors are located, are run by the same asian cabals that have vested interest in parlors and probably own a few themselves.

How else can you explain the notorious censorship if one starts threads objecting to providers rachetness of price gouging, providers lack luster to bad service. Upsells and rip offs. We've heard and seen plenty of times where parlor reviews are manipulated by the same people that runs them, trying to bait us into their place, stating that they spent. 60 for HJ, . 80 for bjs and upwards to 140 for FS, all outrageous prices if you're this dumb. I understand some of guys are raging horny and would love nothing but to tear through some of these delicious asian pussies like a nice plate of Chinese food but the sad part is, most of the time, you're not. You're stuck in a world of bait and switch where they post pics of young pretty asian girls only to go see mostly grannies who are past their primes. But because they are smutts who loves to stroke cocks and we're raging horn balls looking for a fix, we lose all of our ability to think and allow them to take complete advantage and get the best of us. We lay on the table like a corps and get pumped up like a farm animal.

And then their goons working the websites, makes sure that they run a communist China like rule where if you speak against the status quo, your account, along with post threads, gets deleted, banned, censored or erased. But post in favor of them like an imbecile, describing how your massage by yummi, sushi and yum fucky suckie went and you over tipping, it gets bumped up and even duplicated by follow ups from their fraudulent reviews. You can always tell because they write as bad as their ad posting on craigslist or backpage or wherever they posts.

You are doing a disservice for not banding together to get more bang for your buck and stretching your dollars. When one monger stands up and advocate for reforms to better the experience for all of us, some of you are stupid enough to start with the notion that the providers are slave workers, theyre getting abused, that one is a violent guy towards women, all kinds of dumb shit to justify arguying in favor of the providers who sees you as nothing but gullible suckers and know how to play you. They are well trainned for it, by their asian men too. They act as if they don't speak english to take away your ability to negotiate better prices and services and you dumb idiots go for it and keep posting on it endlessly in your reviews. You really think these asian women do not know how to speak a word of english, being in this country this long. If they are sex slaves being forced against their will, as some of you would argue, then by visitng the parlors, you're just adding to the problem, not helping stop the business.

Its disheartening to see how this is the lowest common denominator of all things dumb about Americans. We could enjoy this much more if we werent so selfish, egotistical, arrogant, ideologically stupid about it. The asian man laughs at how he is raking in billions on this business and how dumb, horny american men are. Half of these women working at the parlors, even the ugliest buck tooth asian men wouldn't want touching their little penis but here we are, gloating, raving and over tipping their toss away meat. We suffer to get what wed really like but they enjoy getting the full experience for half the price. Its like american men, predominatly whites, do not know the real value of a beat up kunt.

If the asian man monitoring my posts to delete lets this one fly, I hope I've hit a nerve somewhere in my rambling to help you see different going forward.

[BillyBaloney]

If you are suggesting that you can't or won't get arrested for walking into a sting operation, you are doing the men on this forum a serious injustice. Do your homework.

Half your posts are questions and the other half are telling us the sky is falling. IMHO you are not helping the board with this fear mongering. Millions of guys get laid every day in a P4 P setting and nothing bad happens. Lets focus on glass half full ok?

[Stressed Out]

One of the longest tenured true gentlemen of the board reaches out to you and asks for your lead. And what do you do? You spit in his face and pull your typical "you first" bullshit. You are so fucking dumb you don't even realize what could have been. If you shared your lead with SO and it pans out he can back you up.

Moron. Imbecile. Retard.

I thank you sir for your kind words. I have always tried to provide solid leads and safe ladies to all who have asked on this board regardless of seniority. I have seen many turn from a 'newbie poster' to class gents over time. I didn't really expect to get much info figuring it wasn't accurate to begin with however if it was I would have reported back. I have had more than a few posters who have posted 'unlikely info' ask me to verify and I have just as I have asked for info to verify and received nada. We will always have those here but the good news is that they are found out in time.

Of course to many newbies I may seem like more of a 'commenter' lately rather than a supplier of info but I know many folks will remember those ladies I have been fortunate to see and passed on. Unfortunately it seems like those gems (again I mention Lisa of Boston, Boston Tiffany, the Estonians, Deanna, the abc spas, Leeza, Jackie in RI, Rea, Eve Snow and Jenna full Bush just to name a few) are long gone with no replacements coming down the line. It is getting harder and harder to find good reliable and safe ladies to see but this site is once of the last vestiges we have. Thanks SO.

[Nrlmus]

Not between you & I, we've been here before, it hasn't ever worked out & no reason to expect it ever will.
Your character assassination of yourself continues even in your last post, & though I know you are not an LE rat, to me your not a stand up guy either.

Sorry you feel that way but-eh whatever.

[HowardSprague]

Actually, you're wrong. Example: a convicted felon visits an escort, does his business and leaves. Another client comes in, kills her and leaves. The police take samples from skin, bedding, used condoms, etc. They match the first guy's DNA to the FBI's DNA records, which all convicted violent felons must submit samples to via the State Police. Game over. How easy is it to become a convicted felon? Just takes a vindictive ex-wife or girlfriend to lie to the police and say you hit her they WILL have your DNA if convicted. That's one example. Another example is simply investigating voice mail, texts and email records. Now, these are obviously far flung in terms of probability, but certainly possible, and it happens.

But barring those admittedly unlikely circumstances, a more common scenario is to simply be arrested at a prostitution sting. If you show up there, you're getting arrested, and your name and mugshot are getting published. And to suggest another scenario, at the risk of incensing some of the legal scholars on this forum, the police could detain and question a prostitute, ask her for a list of who she saw that day, and she may even say you raped her, that she was there against her will. She may even be a minor, and you can end up playing handball with Jared Fogle. Google "prostitution sting" and look into the eyes of the johns in the mugshots.

You're adding facts to your factpattern. You never mentioned either party being a convicted felon. Barring a felony conviction since the DNA sampling legislation went into effect, there would be almost no way to identify the person from DNA alone. There is no comprehensive database of the population. There's also the volume of different DNA in a hotel room and the likely contamination of any sample by the DNA of possibly hundreds of other people. Hotels don't wash bedding as often as you'd like to think.

You're not getting arrested by merely showing up at a sting. Unless and until there is an agreement (and what constitutes an agreement can be very loosely defined) for sexual activity in exchange for a fee there is no crime. It's not an inchoate crime.

I think BillyBaloney called this one.

[Jeishein14]

Your argument for DNA evidence is completely backwards. Simply put, DNA can be used to (arguably) tie existing suspects to a scene, but it isn't used to find new suspects. Just not even remotely practical at this time, especially in a hotel room.

Actually, you're wrong. Example: a convicted felon visits an escort, does his business and leaves. Another client comes in, kills her and leaves. The police take samples from skin, bedding, used condoms, etc. They match the first guy's DNA to the FBI's DNA records, which all convicted violent felons must submit samples to via the State Police. Game over. How easy is it to become a convicted felon? Just takes a vindictive ex-wife or girlfriend to lie to the police and say you hit her they WILL have your DNA if convicted. That's one example. Another example is simply investigating voice mail, texts and email records. Now, these are obviously far flung in terms of probability, but certainly possible, and it happens.

But barring those admittedly unlikely circumstances, a more common scenario is to simply be arrested at a prostitution sting. If you show up there, you're getting arrested, and your name and mugshot are getting published. And to suggest another scenario, at the risk of incensing some of the legal scholars on this forum, the police could detain and question a prostitute, ask her for a list of who she saw that day, and she may even say you raped her, that she was there against her will. She may even be a minor, and you can end up playing handball with Jared Fogle. Google "prostitution sting" and look into the eyes of the johns in the mugshots.

[Skatar018]

Let bygones be bygones

Not between you & I, we've been here before, it hasn't ever worked out & no reason to expect it ever will.
Your character assassination of yourself continues even in your last post, & though I know you are not an LE rat, to me your not a stand up guy either.

[Skatar018]

Skatar,The post is no longer viewable in its original form

To me I see it's the same as the day you posted it, nothing has or was changed

You have crossed the line. This is the worst. I could give two shits about all the insults and all the vile accusations but changing another member words goes too far. In fact, if this is allowed to stand it will tarnish the whole system here. What Negrapist quoted Nrlmus as saying: And what Nrlmus actually said. blue You need to report the post where he did that, it is not fucking allowed. Actually I really fucking hate it when douchebags do that. A2[/blue]

A2 has fixed it.

Both the view ops links in your post still lead me to this post & not a post made by Negsiro

Well time I may get mixed up with time from time to time but at least I'm not a rat like you are and not known for setting people up to be busted by LE like you do.

I do not see the fix you are referring to.

My point was not about accusations or name calling. It was, maybe not clearly enough, about altering an original quote. Negsiro presented a quote from Nrlmus that looked original but was in fact altered. If that is allowed then the whole "quote post" function is worthless.

Again as I have Negsiro on ignore I can not see the post that was changed or how it was changed by him, I have looked at all his posts & I do not see where he states

Originally Posted by Nrlmus [ViewOriginalPost] I can be LE's best friend on this board and you know it!.

Seems a little confusing & convoluted to me considering every thing stated above, but I've been known to miss things staring me right in the face.