Strip Club Reports

[Wleakr]

No, I just don't give a shit about valets and they know this. I held out the ten and said, "I don't let anyone drive my car. I'll park it myself. " When it was obvious he was about to object, I didn't let him answer and said "Oh well guess I'll head someplace else," and started backing my car up. He then immediately changed his attitude and said to park near the back. That's same exact tactic I use on used car salesmen, and Insurance Agents. You got to understand two things. First the club owners and management want you in the club spending your money, if you are not there they make no money. The second thing is no one works as a valet attended because that is his goal in life. He works as a valet attendant because that's the only job he can get, and knows that if he drives too many customers away he will get fired. You understand those two facts, and they can tell you know this, and you usually get no argument. The few times I do get an argument I leave.

Yep. I'm in full agreement of taking care of your own ride. Honestly, I don't even use their lot if I don't have to, especially for clubs in and near Detroit, as there is usually plenty of street parking. The neighborhood would have to be exceptionally sketchy for me to choose the valet (and be a night visit).

And while I do agree about point 1, that clubs want you inside to spend, I don't think point 2 is accurate, as I don't think the club owners would know if the valet is "driving" a customer away. But I don't know how valets, strip club or otherwise, work. Is it a contracted thing where the valet revenue is separate from the club, or is it all together?

[PastMyPrime]

Was trying to set up a date in Madison Hts on my way up there. Escort never called back (texted "missed call" but didn't respond to call or texts).

Stopped at Subis for a warm up. I have only been offered extras there once and it was overpriced, but figured a lap dance or two wouldn't be bad. Got a lackluster dance.

From one girl and hit the road.

I hit Players about 11 pm. Very Crowded and with coat check, $13 to get in. Couldn't find a table, but found one with empty glasses. Never got offered a drink. Young lady (Alena?

Came up and said her real name was Sissy. VERY talkative blonde, so I agreed to a lap dance. Once in the room she said she liked this place more than all the others because of the curtains.

And because there were no cameras and we could do whatever we wanted. She pretty much offered everything, but I said I like blowjobs, so she took off my pants and gave me a BBBJ, CIM.

Spit. Not the best I've ever head, but not bad. Given the warm-up dance and songs it took, I handed her $120 thinking it was fair and hoping she wouldn't make an issue. She almost seemed.

Happy it was that much.

Normally girls negotiate beforehand (or during). I mean, what if I only had 50 dollars in my wallet? I would have gone back tonight, but I was busy.

[Tom70]

No, I just don't give a shit about valets and they know this. I held out the ten and said, "I don't let anyone drive my car. I'll park it myself. " When it was obvious he was about to object, I didn't let him answer and said "Oh well guess I'll head someplace else," and started backing my car up. He then immediately changed his attitude and said to park near the back. That's same exact tactic I use on used car salesmen, and Insurance Agents. You got to understand two things. First the club owners and management want you in the club spending your money, if you are not there they make no money. The second thing is no one works as a valet attended because that is his goal in life. He works as a valet attendant because that's the only job he can get, and knows that if he drives too many customers away he will get fired. You understand those two facts, and they can tell you know this, and you usually get no argument. The few times I do get an argument I leave.

The only time so far I was ever turned away from parking my own car and parked elsewhere and was confronted about this was at Deja Vu in Vegas. When the polite but stupid idiot wouldn't let me park my own car, I just drove across the street, to the shopping mall and walked to the club. The same idiot valet tried to tell I couldn't get away with parking somewhere else and I just walked right past him and the doorman let me in no question. The parking for two hours in the mall was 1/6 the valet parking fee at the strip club.

Love it. Great advice.

For those looking to use this wisdom, remember that you never want to escalate any situation further than you need to get what you want. Just push it when you have to, with the knowledge of how much further you can push it, and what your out is. Don't ever be rude, but do assert your reasoned position.

[AllwaysLookin]

Let me know when the court date is when you testify. I want to hear that story you give in front of a judge. LOL This could be epic.

Would be fun to get a bunch of us in there and heckle the vice cops. No respect for them at all. That is the arm of the cops that don't have the balls to face real criminals so they lord over people commiting moral offenses.

They are not too different than the muslim thugs that patrol in the middle east.

[Drew93]

Looks as though the hot blonde waitress Cassidy, has started to strip.

She was by far one of the hottest.

[Time Twist]

I've been there a couple of times and I asked if I could park my own car and pay the $10 fee, and I was told no both times. Of course both times the guy was a middle aged loser whose IQ was about what they charge to park.

So how did you not give them time to argue? Did you just drive past them and park yourself?

No, I just don't give a shit about valets and they know this. I held out the ten and said, "I don't let anyone drive my car. I'll park it myself. " When it was obvious he was about to object, I didn't let him answer and said "Oh well guess I'll head someplace else," and started backing my car up. He then immediately changed his attitude and said to park near the back. That's same exact tactic I use on used car salesmen, and Insurance Agents. You got to understand two things. First the club owners and management want you in the club spending your money, if you are not there they make no money. The second thing is no one works as a valet attended because that is his goal in life. He works as a valet attendant because that's the only job he can get, and knows that if he drives too many customers away he will get fired. You understand those two facts, and they can tell you know this, and you usually get no argument. The few times I do get an argument I leave.

The only time so far I was ever turned away from parking my own car and parked elsewhere and was confronted about this was at Deja Vu in Vegas. When the polite but stupid idiot wouldn't let me park my own car, I just drove across the street, to the shopping mall and walked to the club. The same idiot valet tried to tell I couldn't get away with parking somewhere else and I just walked right past him and the doorman let me in no question. The parking for two hours in the mall was 1/6 the valet parking fee at the strip club.

[Pussylicker2]

...park the car myself and gave them the $10. Then again I didn't give them time to argue.

I've been there a couple of times and I asked if I could park my own car and pay the $10 fee, and I was told no both times. Of course both times the guy was a middle aged loser whose IQ was about what they charge to park.

So how did you not give them time to argue? Did you just drive past them and park yourself?

[Time Twist]

There's also the "valet parking". At Flight Club in Inkster they require you to give them your car keys and let them park your car (for a fee, I think $10). I asked them if I could park my own car and give them the $10, and they said no, so I never go there. BT's in Dearborn had valet parking, but I believe you can find a free place to park nearby. I've heard of the valet parking guys not letting people in if they just walk up (after parking their own car nearby).

I didn't have any problem the one time I visited and told them I don't let anyone drive my car and would park the car myself and gave them the $10. Then again I didn't give them time to argue. If you are out of town you can also tell them it's a rental and your rental agreement doesn't allow anyone else to drive it, I doubt the club has the insurance anyway to cover any damage done by the valet. The guy I handed the money to barely looked old enough to drive as it is, and one of the valets could barely drive the pickup truck he was trying to park.

They definitely aren't being very good at choosing people to park. I can maybe see having valet parking at a more upscale downtown club, but not in such a depressed area where Flight club exists I don't see a use for it, but it is what it is. Then again if you refuse then you can just leave.

[Everest]

Which of the clubs have mandatory minimum drinks enforced, and if don't want to drink on that day, any way to skip them by politely.

Talking to bartender and probably tipping her?

Which of dancers are generally known to be regular only girls and which of the girls are known to entertain non-regulars too?

Which of the clubs have mandatory bouncer tipping, and VIP charges enforced.

Appreciate your comments.

If you PM me I can direct you towards a source where you can get the details about these clubs (minus the info on regulars-only girls).

[Pussylicker2]

Which of the clubs have mandatory minimum drinks enforced, and if don't want to drink on that day, any way to skip them by politely.

The only place I know of that has the 2 drink minimum is Henry the 8th South. I didn't know about it the last time I went there. They enforce it when you want to go to the VIP. If you haven't already had 2 drinks they won't let you go to the VIP until you pay for the $10 wrist band AND buy a second drink. If you want you can just leave. They can't force you to pay for a second drink, they won't call the police, they'll just ask you to leave, which is what you want to do anyway. So, it's not really "2 drink minimum" unless you want to use the VIP.

Which of dancers are generally known to be regular only girls and which of the girls are known to entertain non-regulars too?

We'd have to know what clubs you go to if we are to give you good information. If you're looking for a club to go to it would be good for us to know what part of town you want to find a club. But, I've really never run into a girl who wouldn't do a vip with me because I wasn't a "regular". The girls might ignore you, especially if she has regulars in the bar who she knows. If you're a stranger to her, she doesn't know if you'll want dances or if you're a cop. If she, or her friends, have had you before, she'll be more likely to seek you out.

Girls that perform extras at good prices are the ones who have lots of "regulars". Guys (like me) wants a girl who gives a good bbbj, so those girls have lots of regulars wanting to see them. Girls who are fat, old, ugly, or who don't do good extras won't have regulars, so they'll be likely to be coming around talking to guys.

Which of the clubs have mandatory bouncer tipping, and VIP charges enforced.

All the clubs I go to make you buy a wristband for $10 to go to the VIP, except the Sliver Cricket during the dayshift doesn't charge the VIP fee. I wouldn't call it "bouncer tipping", I never tip bouncers. But, the guy you buy the wristband from is a bouncer, and so is the guy who collects the cover charge when you first enter the bar.

There's also the "valet parking". At Flight Club in Inkster they require you to give them your car keys and let them park your car (for a fee, I think $10). I asked them if I could park my own car and give them the $10, and they said no, so I never go there. BT's in Dearborn had valet parking, but I believe you can find a free place to park nearby. I've heard of the valet parking guys not letting people in if they just walk up (after parking their own car nearby).

I hope that helps. Feel free to ask more questions. All the answers are here.

[Everest]

Everest, the reason chicks like this use a term like "creepy" is that it really offends their world view to learn that a large portion of their own personal self worth is made apparent for how bald and superficial it actually is. Let me explain.

First off, I found the video you describe. Search for "Ashley Ortega" if you are curious to watch it too. She openly posts on Youtube under that name. Her story is that she and her friend were looking for something crazy to do late in the night (actually early morning) after partying and gambling at the casino. Devoid of any interesting ideas, they decide to visit a place that is clearly not marketing itself to her and her friend, other than as a place of potential employment. But she tells the story as though none of that matters, she should be able to visit the establishment, gawk at and judge the other patrons, and act indignantly when the door person interacts in the only manner that would be sensible when confronted with these visiters. By assuming they want work.

Obviously, a huge part of this young lady's self worth is invested in her estimation of her own sexual appeal. And witnessing men enjoying themselves without cowtowing to her world view is shocking and devaluing. Not to the women working in the club, but to her. She recognizes that whatever attactiveness she possesses can in fact be the subject of a simple, and low cost encounter. This is huge, it shatters her notion that men must throw themselves at her for her attention, open doors for her, beg for a date, pay for her every wish, just for the slim chance that she might continue to allow the sucker to bask in her glory. Seeing all that thrown out the window for the shallow bullshit that it is. It's crippling for her, which is what happens when she sees women engaging in a reasonable, and consensual encounter for some quick money.

So this crushing realization leaves her searching for any venom she can spew at the best target she can muster, the mongers. They must be creeps, in her world view. Otherwise, if they are just guys, just healthy adults enjoying a simple entertaining encounter, then, well, she really doesn't amount to much. That is why, to her, we are creeps.

I think most guys, like me, don't think much of this. I recognize it for what it is, sad, defeatist, and petty, but not really worth my attention. If you force me to have an opinion of her, I'd probably say that. She is a creep for seeking to protect and define her own self value by offending others who have no opinion or thought, neither positive nor negative, of her.

A great analysis. Thank you.

However, we have to agree that we live in a world where adult entertainment is largely frowned upon. So it is no wonder that those of us who openly embrace adult entertainment appear to be creeps.

[RaviFrequent]

Which of the clubs have mandatory minimum drinks enforced, and if don't want to drink on that day, any way to skip them by politely.

Talking to bartender and probably tipping her?

Which of dancers are generally known to be regular only girls and which of the girls are known to entertain non-regulars too?

Which of the clubs have mandatory bouncer tipping, and VIP charges enforced.

Appreciate your comments.

[Tom70]

I am not sure if it is appropriate to post this here since it is not a report or Detroit related. If it is not appropriate, admin please remove it.

So I was browsing YouTube this morning and came upon a video dated yesterday (Feb 23,2016) titled "First Strip Club Experience.

STORYTIME" by a girl named Ashley ortega. So she is talking about her first ever visit to a strip club on her 19th birthday. And in this video blog of hers, she kept referring to male strip club patrons as 'creepy men'. She said that so many times.

Are we mongers really so creepy?

Everest, the reason chicks like this use a term like "creepy" is that it really offends their world view to learn that a large portion of their own personal self worth is made apparent for how bald and superficial it actually is. Let me explain.

First off, I found the video you describe. Search for "Ashley Ortega" if you are curious to watch it too. She openly posts on Youtube under that name. Her story is that she and her friend were looking for something crazy to do late in the night (actually early morning) after partying and gambling at the casino. Devoid of any interesting ideas, they decide to visit a place that is clearly not marketing itself to her and her friend, other than as a place of potential employment. But she tells the story as though none of that matters, she should be able to visit the establishment, gawk at and judge the other patrons, and act indignantly when the door person interacts in the only manner that would be sensible when confronted with these visiters. By assuming they want work.

Obviously, a huge part of this young lady's self worth is invested in her estimation of her own sexual appeal. And witnessing men enjoying themselves without cowtowing to her world view is shocking and devaluing. Not to the women working in the club, but to her. She recognizes that whatever attactiveness she possesses can in fact be the subject of a simple, and low cost encounter. This is huge, it shatters her notion that men must throw themselves at her for her attention, open doors for her, beg for a date, pay for her every wish, just for the slim chance that she might continue to allow the sucker to bask in her glory. Seeing all that thrown out the window for the shallow bullshit that it is. It's crippling for her, which is what happens when she sees women engaging in a reasonable, and consensual encounter for some quick money.

So this crushing realization leaves her searching for any venom she can spew at the best target she can muster, the mongers. They must be creeps, in her world view. Otherwise, if they are just guys, just healthy adults enjoying a simple entertaining encounter, then, well, she really doesn't amount to much. That is why, to her, we are creeps.

I think most guys, like me, don't think much of this. I recognize it for what it is, sad, defeatist, and petty, but not really worth my attention. If you force me to have an opinion of her, I'd probably say that. She is a creep for seeking to protect and define her own self value by offending others who have no opinion or thought, neither positive nor negative, of her.

[Lazarus II]

Hey JohnGeste sorry to hear about your experience but you and everyone needs to know that this is all about the $$$ and nothing about fighting crime but I am sure you know that already. I heard on the radio this week that the Detroit pension fund is short of being funded by $500,000,000. Those cops are looking at their benefits and nothing else.

I think you're short a zero. The total underfunding is $3. 5 Billion as of 4-5 yrs ago. The last estimated payment required was off by your 500 Million ($485 actually). Last info I saw had 61% of the pension participants retired and 39% active workers. It was probably designed to have a ratio of 5-7 actives for 1 retired back in the day.

[Joel259]

Let me know when the court date is when you testify. I want to hear that story you give in front of a judge. LOL This could be epic.

I was visiting Players' last Wednesday. Enjoying myself. And after a couple of hours of socializing went upstairs with a nice young lady called Sugar. After one song there was quite a commotion outside the booth (the time was close to 3:15 pm) with somebody insisting that "you can't go in there". We were scrambling around and soon enough in came a Detroit vice cop. In all about 6 or 7 cops came in to Players to investigate. Or extort. However you see it. Sugar received two tickets. For exposed breasts and also I believe for exposed breasts when leaving the stage (I'm not sure how the got that one). It could have been worse as we were only one song into our session. Anyhow. Another girl told me they had been raided previously and she was ticketed for the same offense and the ticket cost was $350. I stuck around after the raid to unwind. I did ask the manager. Beau why they didn't try to have some sort or early warning system. For gosh sakes at least have the DJ kill the music or something. He didn't give me a good answer in my judgement. I told Sugar I would go to court for her as a witness as to my comprehension she did have her top on when the cop entered our booth. Her panties were in my pocket by then but that wasn't the point of law in question. Interesting experience. Hopefully crossed off my bucket list for good. And all in all not very satisfying! It is good to know that law and order in Detroit has been so firmly established that the police department is able to squander resources harassing honest working girls trying spread a little happiness!