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  1. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    It's fascinating how my new country reminds me of my old one lately. Everybody are being asked to be vigilant and encouraged to tell authorities on all kinds of suspicious behavior, some possibly more consequential then other. But the fact that the government is asking hotel employees to report all possible suspicious behavior (not only violent crime) as they say in the article "even if it turns out to be nothing" basically leveling the criteria between let's say, terrorists-related and prostitution is something so USSR, it's like can't get anymore USSR then that.

    What they are actually doing is trying to get the hotel personal used to the idea that it should be ready to rat out anybody that breaths wrong, let alone walks funny. Are we really becoming a nation of snitches among other things? Just saying.
    Da tovarisch.

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.

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  3. #217
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoHunter328  [View Original Post]
    Just one of the reasons incalls are high risk. Homeland Security has been asking hotel staff to watch for Prostitution, because apparently they don't have more important things to worry about.

    http://reason.com/blog/2016/01/12/ho...hotel-staff-to

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.
    It's fascinating how my new country reminds me of my old one lately. Everybody are being asked to be vigilant and encouraged to tell authorities on all kinds of suspicious behavior, some possibly more consequential then other. But the fact that the government is asking hotel employees to report all possible suspicious behavior (not only violent crime) as they say in the article "even if it turns out to be nothing" basically leveling the criteria between let's say, terrorists-related and prostitution is something so USSR, it's like can't get anymore USSR then that.

    What they are actually doing is trying to get the hotel personal used to the idea that it should be ready to rat out anybody that breaths wrong, let alone walks funny. Are we really becoming a nation of snitches among other things? Just saying.

  4. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuhgetaboudit  [View Original Post]
    Stay safe, mongers have to always be aware of surroundings and watchful / eavesdropping hotel personnel. (In another thread a couple days ago, someone mentioned a hotel clerk being in the hallway overhearing a conversation that occurred inside a hotel room). This hotel mentioned might be a candidate for a do not visit, or visit with extreme caution, list.

    Below is an excerpt, a little bit redacted, from yesterday's local Tewks rag, no link, 'cause I'm not sure the board rules allow it due to details of person's name being mentioned:

    "On Friday, Feb. 19 Tewksbury Police arrested (name), 38, of (neighboring city) for human trafficking, deriving support from prostitution and sexual conduct for a fee. The arrest followed a call police received from an alert employee at the Extended Stay America Hotel located on Andover Street, who stated he was concerned about two young females (over 18) who appeared to be under the direction of (him). (Local LEO) responded and began an investigation. It was determined (he) recruited the females and drove them to Tewksbury from Providence RI. (He) rented a hotel room in order for the females to conduct sexual acts for a fee and to provide him with a percentage of the money. (He) was placed in custody at the Extended Stay. ".

    I am aware of a friend who had to run and hide around the property of, I believe, an Extended Stay on second ave in watch city, to dodge LEO who were looking for him as they had been called by that hotel's staff. As the saying goes, even though the target of the above news story is a pimp not a monger, mongers need to keep their spidey senses at highest sensitivity levels at all times, for a lot of reasons.
    Just one of the reasons incalls are high risk. Homeland Security has been asking hotel staff to watch for Prostitution, because apparently they don't have more important things to worry about.

    http://reason.com/blog/2016/01/12/ho...hotel-staff-to

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.

  5. #215

    Stay Safe, Caution If Visit List

    Stay safe, mongers have to always be aware of surroundings and watchful / eavesdropping hotel personnel. (In another thread a couple days ago, someone mentioned a hotel clerk being in the hallway overhearing a conversation that occurred inside a hotel room). This hotel mentioned might be a candidate for a do not visit, or visit with extreme caution, list.

    Below is an excerpt, a little bit redacted, from yesterday's local Tewks rag, no link, 'cause I'm not sure the board rules allow it due to details of person's name being mentioned:

    "On Friday, Feb. 19 Tewksbury Police arrested (name), 38, of (neighboring city) for human trafficking, deriving support from prostitution and sexual conduct for a fee. The arrest followed a call police received from an alert employee at the Extended Stay America Hotel located on Andover Street, who stated he was concerned about two young females (over 18) who appeared to be under the direction of (him). (Local LEO) responded and began an investigation. It was determined (he) recruited the females and drove them to Tewksbury from Providence RI. (He) rented a hotel room in order for the females to conduct sexual acts for a fee and to provide him with a percentage of the money. (He) was placed in custody at the Extended Stay. ".

    I am aware of a friend who had to run and hide around the property of, I believe, an Extended Stay on second ave in watch city, to dodge LEO who were looking for him as they had been called by that hotel's staff. As the saying goes, even though the target of the above news story is a pimp not a monger, mongers need to keep their spidey senses at highest sensitivity levels at all times, for a lot of reasons.

  6. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by Dgnrt  [View Original Post]
    If you show up to a sting you're pretty much *ed regardless of what you do or don't say. I agree with keeping your mouth shut when it comes to the cops ALWAYS.

    -Stay safe.
    Yes talking always makes your situation worse and limits your options later.

  7. #213
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeZappa  [View Original Post]
    I think it matters what you say if caught in a sting. My father's advice and he was a cop many many years ago was simple. Say nothing but your name and address. If the cops ask you why you will not talk or answer the questions just say "I might say something stupid ". And if you talk.

    You will say something stupid. IMHO the risk is not worth visiting a provider on CL or BP or on the street. I am not preaching to anyone or trying to bust anyone's balls here. The risk / reward ratio just sucks in my opinion. I think it's pretty safe to have fun at a strip club or massage spa.

    However. I love massages and for over ten tears got non sexual massages for about $50. I never tipped except for the holidays. I would have.

    The women visit my home, give her the $50 first and lie down covered on my own massage table. She never brought any linins or table just oil and a good attitude and left after the 50 minute massage was done. This was a regular event on Wednesday after work for many years. I usually fell asleep at the end of the massage. It was good.

    Have fun.
    If you show up to a sting you're pretty much *ed regardless of what you do or don't say. I agree with keeping your mouth shut when it comes to the cops ALWAYS.

    -Stay safe.

  8. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by Dgnrt  [View Original Post]
    The cops. Lie. They would never do such a thing. SMH.

    It doesn't matter much what you say or don't say, if you show up to a sting you're not walking away without your name and possibly your face in the paper / news.

    You might walk away from the case but it's too late at that point, you've been caught with your hand in the cookie jar.

    Do your research and be overly cautious, there's more than enough info on here to help with that.
    I think it matters what you say if caught in a sting. My father's advice and he was a cop many many years ago was simple. Say nothing but your name and address. If the cops ask you why you will not talk or answer the questions just say "I might say something stupid ". And if you talk.

    You will say something stupid. IMHO the risk is not worth visiting a provider on CL or BP or on the street. I am not preaching to anyone or trying to bust anyone's balls here. The risk / reward ratio just sucks in my opinion. I think it's pretty safe to have fun at a strip club or massage spa.

    However. I love massages and for over ten tears got non sexual massages for about $50. I never tipped except for the holidays. I would have.

    The women visit my home, give her the $50 first and lie down covered on my own massage table. She never brought any linins or table just oil and a good attitude and left after the 50 minute massage was done. This was a regular event on Wednesday after work for many years. I usually fell asleep at the end of the massage. It was good.

    Have fun.

  9. #211
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    Posts: 252
    Quote Originally Posted by Katokay  [View Original Post]
    I think the wild card in all of this is that cops lie. They know why you are there and to make their case more winnable will lie about what you say.
    The cops. Lie. They would never do such a thing. SMH.

    It doesn't matter much what you say or don't say, if you show up to a sting you're not walking away without your name and possibly your face in the paper / news.

    You might walk away from the case but it's too late at that point, you've been caught with your hand in the cookie jar.

    Do your research and be overly cautious, there's more than enough info on here to help with that.

  10. #210

    Stings in Ma

    Quote Originally Posted by Katokay  [View Original Post]
    I think the wild card in all of this is that cops lie. They know why you are there and to make their case more winnable will lie about what you say.
    Ok, you get pulled over the cops are going to arrive 3 to 5 at a time and one will play good cop. He wants to listen and convince you to confess.

    If it was a street walker she has a record for something and they have probable cause. If you are alone they count on you being stupid.

    If you made a date online and never discussed a donation or act guess what else is in store for you? Bad cop maintains you said something about email. Good cop reminds you they can get your email footprints and find evidence about one time when you asked a question from any person online and gain credibility about this fishy encounter you got yourself into.

    Monger phone. Rotate phone and number. No references. Do not take chances.

    Too many safe choices.

  11. #209

    Arrest

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedingTicke  [View Original Post]
    The problem is that it doesn't matter. You might have called the number in the ad and never mentioned sex, fees or any of the stuff that makes a case winnable for LE. Just being at the address, with money in hand and a phone number matching the calls and or texts is enough to get you arrested and arraigned.

    You can win the trial but you can't get back the lost reputation of having your name in the newspaper. This is the single biggest weapon the LE have and it is something they count on. News papers are looking to sell copy and salacious sexual content sells. Cops and reporters are a match made in hell.
    I think the wild card in all of this is that cops lie. They know why you are there and to make their case more winnable will lie about what you say.

  12. #208

    Arrests

    The problem is that it doesn't matter. You might have called the number in the ad and never mentioned sex, fees or any of the stuff that makes a case winnable for LE. Just being at the address, with money in hand and a phone number matching the calls and or texts is enough to get you arrested and arraigned.

    You can win the trial but you can't get back the lost reputation of having your name in the newspaper. This is the single biggest weapon the LE have and it is something they count on. News papers are looking to sell copy and salacious sexual content sells. Cops and reporters are a match made in hell.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoRush  [View Original Post]
    There has to be someone on the board who has first-hand experience of one of these. I'm sure it's a little embarrassing to talk about, but it could really help a lot of people. If you're an existing member and you don't want to admit that you screwed up once, just create a new username and unburden yourself. Confession is good for the soul, especially here where it's totally anonymous.

  13. #207
    There has to be someone on the board who has first-hand experience of one of these. I'm sure it's a little embarrassing to talk about, but it could really help a lot of people. If you're an existing member and you don't want to admit that you screwed up once, just create a new username and unburden yourself. Confession is good for the soul, especially here where it's totally anonymous.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveSheehan  [View Original Post]
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...ZsJ/story.html

    I always wonder what the ads look like and what the interactions are. Discussing anything 'important' is a big no-no and has never happened to me. I always wonder if just showing up for a regular BP ad is enough to charge?

  14. #206

    Sting in Copley

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...ZsJ/story.html

    I always wonder what the ads look like and what the interactions are. Discussing anything 'important' is a big no-no and has never happened to me. I always wonder if just showing up for a regular BP ad is enough to charge?

  15. #205
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    Posts: 2142
    Quote Originally Posted by Deb4512  [View Original Post]
    You always bring good, strong reasoning to the board. Do you think it will go through? I mean in the near future? Will it be like pot decriminalization in Washington State and Colorado? It's interesting that the group you referred to is it's main purpose is to fight human trafficking! Many of the trafficking organizations have no clue what the difference is between consensual and coerced. Good news if this goes through and hits states like a domino effect, no one will be concerned with being arrested and if an escort is a rob, violent or tries to blackmail you you can contact the police. If an escort is a victim of crime the same goes for her. Good for the guys, prices will probably drop for escort services, because there will be more saturation of supply over demand. There will be more escorts to choose from. Women will enter escorting more freely knowing they won't be arrested. I don't know if the services will improve though. I know I will be traveling to NH more often!

    I'm surprised that nothing was posted in NH about this. Maybe the guys are jaded and skeptical? I'm always hopeful. Anytime I think if any form of consensual sex between adults being illegal seems ludicrous to me. Isn't there supposed to be a separation of church and state in government?

    I'm working with another escort Gabrielle who's in her 30's. We just came back from NY, not too far north of NYC near the CT border. Every time I'm anywhere, especially in a hotel I'm nervous about noisy housekeeping and front desk staff. The hotel we used was a really beautiful resort hotel with two swimming pools, a jacuzzi, golf course, two restaurants, room service, a gym with classes and equipment. Negatives, which is why we won't be going back there, ants in the bathrooms and my friends cell service didn't work in her room, so it was a hassle for scheduling. Thankfully mine worked. I was nervous working with someone new, because I've had so many bad escort experiences off of backpage like you all seem to have. It's been a month, but I think I've hit gold with her! I will keep you all updated on that.
    1. Why don't you yourself post it on NH board.

    2. Keep dreaming on this going through. Children of the 60s and the 70s have grown up, that's why pot is being decriminalized. They don't have as strong feelings about the prostitution as they do about the weed.

    3. In Costa Rica or Brazil or I suspect anywhere else in Latin America, if, God forbid, a call girl calls the police on you, chances are the police would automatically take her side over yours. The advise is to quickly pay everybody as much as they're asking no matter how outrageous it may seem at the time and do everything possible to avoid to be taken to the police station. Because if they do take you to the police station and "the matter of principal" and "the national pride" enters into the picture together with significantly widened circle of the desiring recipients of your "foreign aid", you'd end up paying so much more compared to what you would've paid initially, in addition to enjoying involuntary rent-free local hospitality while legal issues are sorting themselves out, that you'd curse yourself continuously on why haven't you paid what they were asking initially right there and then.

    I know of a case in Costa Rica when two mongers disagreed with a tica on the expected compensation. The tica called the cops and the mongers allowed themselves to be taken to the station. They hired a local attorney (despite of me telling someone closely involved in the case for them not to do that!), ended up spending over 6 months in local jail while "legal proceedings" were taking place. The legal proceedings involved judges changing (or retiring?), prosecutors vacationing, and (dear God!) motions filed. When I heard about the later I just threw my hands up in dismay.

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