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  1. #31058

    Opposite side

    Quote Originally Posted by HMobius  [View Original Post]
    When I was younger and first discovered AMPs, I was nervous and couldn't always perform. My intentions changed from 'sex' to 'relaxing naked with the girl'. At one point I basically asked the girl about less service and tip and she was not happy for the reasons just as you described. The price was so standardized. I'd say one would need to wait until a repeat visit to ask about that, but she'd probably lose interest especially if she's an in-demand girl who can't waste time on reduced tips.
    What do you say to the girl when you finish before the hour is up and is wanting to send you out? Or the mama who knocks at the 45 minute mark? These are instances that you're not getting the hour when you're giving full tip.

  2. #31057

    Breaking News Muni Muni Muni

    Muni will start working at Top Spa starting Monday. She will be well rested ready for you mongers, treat her nice she will be nice to you.

    Your reporter alohaoe.

  3. #31056
    Quote Originally Posted by SirRegal  [View Original Post]
    I don't know, in my opinion an AMP working girl is expecting the full tip with every customer. If you go in and negotiate lower tip and less things like no CFS, she isn't going to be too happy about that. She could be making the full tip with another guy during that hour she is spending with you. Of course, if you want to pay the full tip and only want a TS, HE, and (lame) massage I'm sure the provider would be delighted.
    When I was younger and first discovered AMPs, I was nervous and couldn't always perform. My intentions changed from 'sex' to 'relaxing naked with the girl'. At one point I basically asked the girl about less service and tip and she was not happy for the reasons just as you described. The price was so standardized. I'd say one would need to wait until a repeat visit to ask about that, but she'd probably lose interest especially if she's an in-demand girl who can't waste time on reduced tips.

  4. #31055
    Quote Originally Posted by ShaggyDoo  [View Original Post]
    Negotiations up front, are what cops do. The minute you start asking what you get for less or more money, that's grounds for PROST. That's why everything is done AFTER THE FACT OR ACT has happened. You don't talk about money, you don't talk about what you expect or want, you just let it happen. You can only as it's happening, say what is ok with you and not ok with you. And then after the act, Show your appreciation of the what just happened by giving her a nice TIP! The tip may vary as to what you experienced. if service is good you TIP high, Bad service you tip low. Hey that works like any other TIPing ,.. Nothing illegal about that ... right??? ... (GET IT!!)

    Sir Regal. This is not a SLAM on you. I'm not trying to do that at all. I'm just trying to turn on the light bulb on the guy you were replying to. This is more for that guy not you.
    ShaggyDoo: I'm the guy you are trying to turn the light bulb on who asked the question in the first place. Many others have responded and I get it now.

  5. #31054
    Well said Shaggy. It's tough to fight that impulse to be sure you're going to get just what you want, but some of my best experiences have come from going in prepared with a big tip ($50's stashed in different pockets so I don't have to count it out if the service is less than stellar) and just letting it happen. That's also a good way of finding out what the provider's specialty is.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaggyDoo  [View Original Post]
    You don't talk about money, you don't talk about what you expect or want, you just let it happen. You can only as it's happening, say what is ok with you and not ok with you. And then after the act, Show your appreciation of the what just happened by giving her a nice TIP! The tip may vary as to what you experienced. if service is good you TIP high, Bad service you tip low.

  6. #31053
    Quote Originally Posted by SirRegal  [View Original Post]
    I don't know, in my opinion an AMP working girl is expecting the full tip with every customer. If you go in and negotiate lower tip and less things like no CFS, she isn't going to be too happy about that. She could be making the full tip with another guy during that hour she is spending with you. Of course, if you want to pay the full tip and only want a TS, HE, and (lame) massage I'm sure the provider would be delighted.
    Negotiations up front, are what cops do. The minute you start asking what you get for less or more money, that's grounds for PROST. That's why everything is done AFTER THE FACT OR ACT has happened. You don't talk about money, you don't talk about what you expect or want, you just let it happen. You can only as it's happening, say what is ok with you and not ok with you. And then after the act, Show your appreciation of the what just happened by giving her a nice TIP! The tip may vary as to what you experienced. if service is good you TIP high, Bad service you tip low. Hey that works like any other TIPing ,.. Nothing illegal about that ... right??? ... (GET IT!!)

    Sir Regal. This is not a SLAM on you. I'm not trying to do that at all. I'm just trying to turn on the light bulb on the guy you were replying to. This is more for that guy not you.

  7. #31052

    Not anymore

    Rumor has it that long time ago AMPs would alacarte service off a menu of edibles coded as HE varieties.

    That stopped a while ago. Now it is as it is said by the seniors here on the responses. You paying for the overall experience.

    Sure, folks have low ball and brag about it, but girls hate them and remember them, and will only service them if it is super slow.

    Pay to play, pay the full amout if you want to play this game. Otherwise, go to MT or Indy and take your chances.

    AMP is Asian massage, not therapeutic, so no massages at any AMP unless it it registered and therapist are too.

    It a a game and like any game has rules. And like any game most play by the rules while others fuck. It up by breaking the rules, LOL. It's a fun game if you play by the rules pay to play and lots of fun can be had.

    Quote Originally Posted by LonelySmiles  [View Original Post]
    Yes, this. Think of it less like a discount ala carte buffet where you pick and choose to save money and more like going to see any other professional for an hour of their services. Obviously, working girls are not attorneys or doctors. However, if say an attorney has a billable hour of $300/ hour and I show up with crayons and coloring books to use the entire time instead of discuss legal matters, I would not expect the attorney to bill me any less than $300 for wasting his time.

    Also keep in mind, some of the most popular girls have regulars who come see them just to talk and cuddle, no HE, while tipping the regular amount. I would tread carefully if you are looking for bargains in AMPs. Unless you have come to an agreement with a specific girl, undertipping is a quick way to get yourself on a "not welcome list. ".

    And as you said, you realize full well this is not a regular Massage Therapist. Unless specifically noted in reviews that a particular girl has a background as a licensed MT, the big secret, that's really no secret at all, is that most of the girls give mediocre massages lol. Surprise. But that's not why we go to AMPs. It's been said many times before, but it bears repeating: If you want a real massage, go see an LMT.

    Streetwalkers on the other hand, that's a whole different ball game, with discounts, risks, and kinky car sex for anyone with a strong enough stomach. I don't go there.

  8. #31051
    Quote Originally Posted by Idusixtyning  [View Original Post]
    AMP girls are expecting to come out with at least 150 tip once they go in a room with you for the hour (FS or not) and for one shot. MSOG is always a YMMV depending on how much you tip, if you are a regular, and if the provider likes you. If you lowball then she'll be pissed as she might have missed out on another customer that pays the full tip (or more). You might get your deal if it is their worst provider (in looks, attitude, service) that gets no customers. You also should not ask for massage upfront at a relaxation place. If they agree to that then it could cause them to be cited by an undercover agent as most do not have a massage business license with a licensed masseuse on the premises.
    Aloha.

    Thanks for the advice. Makes sense. Will stick with the HF plus hourly rate.

    Regards.

    N23.

  9. #31050
    Quote Originally Posted by Nostromo23  [View Original Post]
    Follow on question.

    If all one wants is a nice long table shower, a massage (realize full well this is not a MT), and then cap it off with a fantastic HE, would $40 or $50 on top of HF do it?

    For MSOG, if 2nd HE would that add another $40 or $50?

    -Nostromo23.
    AMP girls are expecting to come out with at least 150 tip once they go in a room with you for the hour (FS or not) and for one shot. MSOG is always a YMMV depending on how much you tip, if you are a regular, and if the provider likes you. If you lowball then she'll be pissed as she might have missed out on another customer that pays the full tip (or more). You might get your deal if it is their worst provider (in looks, attitude, service) that gets no customers. You also should not ask for massage upfront at a relaxation place. If they agree to that then it could cause them to be cited by an undercover agent as most do not have a massage business license with a licensed masseuse on the premises.

  10. #31049
    Quote Originally Posted by Nostromo23  [View Original Post]
    Follow on question.

    If all one wants is a nice long table shower, a massage (realize full well this is not a MT), and then cap it off with a fantastic HE, would $40 or $50 on top of HF do it?

    For MSOG, if 2nd HE would that add another $40 or $50?

    -Nostromo23.
    We had this discussion already. You are paying them for their time which is $150 an hour. What you do doing that hour is up to you. If you try to low ball them (pun intended), you will have difficulty with a 2nd visit. Go find a MT in CC if all you want is HJ and massage. Search the MT thread for those options.

  11. #31048
    Quote Originally Posted by Nostromo23  [View Original Post]
    Follow on question.

    If all one wants is a nice long table shower, a massage (realize full well this is not a MT), and then cap it off with a fantastic HE, would $40 or $50 on top of HF do it?

    For MSOG, if 2nd HE would that add another $40 or $50?

    -Nostromo23.
    Quote Originally Posted by SirRegal  [View Original Post]
    I don't know, in my opinion an AMP working girl is expecting the full tip with every customer. If you go in and negotiate lower tip and less things like no CFS, she isn't going to be too happy about that. She could be making the full tip with another guy during that hour she is spending with you. Of course, if you want to pay the full tip and only want a TS, HE, and (lame) massage I'm sure the provider would be delighted.
    Yes, this. Think of it less like a discount ala carte buffet where you pick and choose to save money and more like going to see any other professional for an hour of their services. Obviously, working girls are not attorneys or doctors. However, if say an attorney has a billable hour of $300/ hour and I show up with crayons and coloring books to use the entire time instead of discuss legal matters, I would not expect the attorney to bill me any less than $300 for wasting his time.

    Also keep in mind, some of the most popular girls have regulars who come see them just to talk and cuddle, no HE, while tipping the regular amount. I would tread carefully if you are looking for bargains in AMPs. Unless you have come to an agreement with a specific girl, undertipping is a quick way to get yourself on a "not welcome list. ".

    And as you said, you realize full well this is not a regular Massage Therapist. Unless specifically noted in reviews that a particular girl has a background as a licensed MT, the big secret, that's really no secret at all, is that most of the girls give mediocre massages lol. Surprise. But that's not why we go to AMPs. It's been said many times before, but it bears repeating: If you want a real massage, go see an LMT.

    Streetwalkers on the other hand, that's a whole different ball game, with discounts, risks, and kinky car sex for anyone with a strong enough stomach. I don't go there.

  12. #31047
    Quote Originally Posted by Kainoa  [View Original Post]
    Which one is Kimmy?
    Top right, lower left.

  13. #31046
    Quote Originally Posted by Honolulu808  [View Original Post]
    http://honolulu.backpage.com/Therape...assage/5543888

    Tera (since October).

    Kimmy (since December).

    Suzy (new arrival).
    Which one is Kimmy?

  14. #31045

    Less Tip

    Quote Originally Posted by Nostromo23  [View Original Post]
    Follow on question.

    If all one wants is a nice long table shower, a massage (realize full well this is not a MT), and then cap it off with a fantastic HE, would $40 or $50 on top of HF do it?

    For MSOG, if 2nd HE would that add another $40 or $50?

    -Nostromo23.
    I don't know, in my opinion an AMP working girl is expecting the full tip with every customer. If you go in and negotiate lower tip and less things like no CFS, she isn't going to be too happy about that. She could be making the full tip with another guy during that hour she is spending with you. Of course, if you want to pay the full tip and only want a TS, HE, and (lame) massage I'm sure the provider would be delighted.

  15. #31044

    Good Girls Gone

    What are my fellow mongers doing to the providers on Oahu? 90% of the women I want to see are gone. This makes it very frustrating for my visit for Pro-Bowl next week. I don't want to be a part of that Cluster-Fuck at Rejuve. I might have to visit Happiness 4 or 5 times in 3 days in order to foster some familiarization. That is my problem I am coming in new at every AMP. 1 Lady at Kison, 1 at CHM; 1 at Nirvana. I am going to have to waste a lot of money on hit-or-miss visits. I can hear it now,"Next time". I can visit across the street at Plus Spa, but the reports on Lucky have been less than stellar. You guys who live on the island have it soooo good. Enjoy. So many good providers are not working and that causes one to visit a lot of places seeking pleasure.

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