Massage Parlor Reports

[Collio2]

I went to Franconia Wellness for a first visit. As soon as I walked in I was welcomed politely by the mamasan. She introduced me to this sexy looking asian girl (I forget her name). On the way to the room I had a short conversation with the girl. Apparently she is new and new to the area. Her english was okay and her sexy look makes up for her broken english. We hit the shower first and her soapy hands rubbed me all over, it was good. On the table she did an okay job as well. Then got a HJ for with her clothes off. So it began with oily hands doing their work. My hands were busy too. It made my experience ten times better. I unloaded and she cleaned me up. I tipped her extra just because she did a great job and hopefully will remember my kind gesture. Next time I'm going back to try for a CFS and hopefully she'll remember me and make negotiation easier. I'll be back to finish what I started.

[Derringer]

Thanks for the update on Cari, JmSuttr!

I never would have visited her due to the smoking. But it's great to know she quit.

Appreciate the good info.

http://washingtondc.backpage.com/Fem...n-cari/4725540

Thai MILF with a cute face and nice attributes (looks better in person than in her pics). She speaks good English and is definitely not a clock-watcher. In fact, if you go for the HH you'll probably end up spending almost an hour (or more) with her. The HH price she quotes initially may seem a bit high but it's not set in stone and if business is slow and you ask politely you will probably succeed in getting it lowered.

Not full GFE (CBJ, DATY, LFK) but pretty good, enthusiastic and genuine service. She has a tendency to talk a lot so you definitely need to keep her occupied. She used to smoke which is why I stopped seeing her. But I did visit a couple of months ago and found that she had quit and looked better than ever. Also, she's often available even if she doesn't have an ad up on BP.

If you do take the plunge, I look forward to reading your report.

[Roamin Roman]

Hate to be in this situation. Really sux to find a nice massage, with or without, extras and not be able to get the same girl two weeks later. What to do? She move. She no more here. As has been said by others, I've reached a place that a good consistent massage is as desirable a few minutes of awe. Granted appearance of and available extras with the lady does improve the overall experience. Sigh.

As another monger noted: If you find a girl whose techniques (both therapeutic and sensual) you like, and if you want to keep in touch with her in case she moves around, try to get her digits. A girl might not always want to share her digits with a client, but if they know you can be trusted and exercise good discretion, they may share their phone number with you. This can also help if you want. And if she agrees. To see you on the outside, assuming any relationship with her develops to that point. Another benefit to getting her digits is that, if she only works certain days, you'll be able to call her and find out if she's going to be working on a particular day (or the day you're thinking of visiting the AMP). If she knows that you prefer to see her, which means more income for her from a steady client, this will also encourage her to share her digits. Probably the best time to ask her is at the end of the session, just before you depart. At first, she might tell you to just call the AMP phone number to ask if she's working, but on a subsequent visit she may just be willing to give you her number. Try it and see. It's worked for me occasionally, and it's worked for other members on this board, as well. You just have to ask, and the worst they can do is say no.

[Kijimuna]

Hate to be in this situation. Really sux to find a nice massage, with or without, extras and not be able to get the same girl two weeks later. What to do? She move. She no more here. As has been said by others, I've reached a place that a good consistent massage is as desirable a few minutes of awe. Granted appearance of and available extras with the lady does improve the overall experience. Sigh.

I agree. I've actually moved on to getting a more legit massage with some sensual touching, but no finish.

[WhiteLake830]

Hate to be in this situation. Really sux to find a nice massage, with or without, extras and not be able to get the same girl two weeks later. What to do? She move. She no more here. As has been said by others, I've reached a place that a good consistent massage is as desirable a few minutes of awe. Granted appearance of and available extras with the lady does improve the overall experience. Sigh.

[JmSuttr]

In fairness I may not be able to spot the difference between Lao and LOS, but Thai women have been my favorite providers since forever. I can remember every one over the last 20 years (sadly because it has not been nearly enough, but somewhere over a dozen). I fall in love every time. The call it Land Of Smiles for a reason (albeit I understand it is pretty hardcore for its citizens if you're there, but when they are here I am all smiles).

I have not seen a real Thai provider in area for a while. I do go to Chaan Thai Massage in Fairfax or a legit massage, and the tiny provider there is cute as hell (but nothing 'improper' going on with her).

I would love to find a real Thai option for FS. I have seen only impostors locally, Malay, Chinese or Lao apparently.

http://washingtondc.backpage.com/Fem...n-cari/4725540

Thai MILF with a cute face and nice attributes (looks better in person than in her pics). She speaks good English and is definitely not a clock-watcher. In fact, if you go for the HH you'll probably end up spending almost an hour (or more) with her. The HH price she quotes initially may seem a bit high but it's not set in stone and if business is slow and you ask politely you will probably succeed in getting it lowered.

Not full GFE (CBJ, DATY, LFK) but pretty good, enthusiastic and genuine service. She has a tendency to talk a lot so you definitely need to keep her occupied. She used to smoke which is why I stopped seeing her. But I did visit a couple of months ago and found that she had quit and looked better than ever. Also, she's often available even if she doesn't have an ad up on BP.

If you do take the plunge, I look forward to reading your report.

[WebDog2015]

I agree to some extent but given the reputation of Thai women and their openess to sexuality, it is unlike anyother Asian culture. Even in Laos, which is a bordering country, their not as sensual as Thai ladies. Plus the sex trade in Thai is booming and flourishes.

Culturally they treat sex different than most Asian countries. As a result I believe their sex appeal has been embraced rather than neglected and that's why Thai ladies are symbolically sexy.

In fairness I may not be able to spot the difference between Lao and LOS, but Thai women have been my favorite providers since forever. I can remember every one over the last 20 years (sadly because it has not been nearly enough, but somewhere over a dozen). I fall in love every time. The call it Land Of Smiles for a reason (albeit I understand it is pretty hardcore for its citizens if you're there, but when they are here I am all smiles).

I have not seen a real Thai provider in area for a while. I do go to Chaan Thai Massage in Fairfax or a legit massage, and the tiny provider there is cute as hell (but nothing 'improper' going on with her).

I would love to find a real Thai option for FS. I have seen only impostors locally, Malay, Chinese or Lao apparently.

[Sexingit]

Which is ironic (not that you choose not to, but for businesses and gals). Given that some of us mongers travel frequently, I would likely be more rather than less attracted to an add that had something less common. Whether a Lao restaurant or a Lao woman.

I agree to some extent but given the reputation of Thai women and their openess to sexuality, it is unlike anyother Asian culture. Even in Laos, which is a bordering country, their not as sensual as Thai ladies. Plus the sex trade in Thai is booming and flourishes.

Culturally they treat sex different than most Asian countries. As a result I believe their sex appeal has been embraced rather than neglected and that's why Thai ladies are symbolically sexy.

[Derringer]

I totally agree with Mr. JmSuttr about Jane. She is not a BBW. Rather, she has a soft, curvy, MILF style body. That happens to be what I am attracted to.

And Mr. JmSuttr is also correct about trying to connect with Jane by using just a few Russian words here and there. That kind of thing really pays dividends down the road once they get to know you. Plus being a gentleman, especially on the first and second visits, is very important. Not just with Jane, but with any provider. Once they get comfortable with you, more doors begin to open up. Not a lecture; just a bit of advice.

Like Mr. JmSuttr, I too believe she is worth another Andrew Jackson for her massage skills alone. Plus I always tip her, which I know she appreciates and remembers. I believe in always tipping for good service. It shows the lady she is appreciated and her extra efforts are rewarded.

Haven't seen Jane for a while but I can confirm that if she likes you (may take repeat visits) the headlights should come out and shine. Some gentle roaming may also be allowed but YMMV, as always. It also doesn't hurt to learn a few Russian phrases to get a smile out of her and get her to open up a bit. Some useful ones are "sposibo" (spuh-see-buh) for please, "pajalusta" (pazh-owl-stuh) for thank you and "mozhna?" (mozh-nuh) for May I? The more she sees you as a gentleman the better her response.

Since AMP prices are generally 80 + 40 = 120 for just a HJ, and higher for roaming and other options, Jane is a bit more expensive but not excessively so, IMHO. The quality of the massage alone makes her a worthwhile option. She also leaves plenty of time between sessions which means you are never rushed. I haven't repeated simply because I enjoy variety and had reached the limits of what she would allow.

Also, unless she's gained a lot of weight since my last visit, I wouldn't classify her as a BBW. Curvy and voluptuous, yes, but not BBW.

[MrSunnyHills]

Just like many Lao restaurants, they identify themselves as Thai to deflect any explanation of origin simply because it's easier. And the reputation of Thai ladies makes them more attractive.

The same goes to people from Northern Virginia. When vacationing. Especially internationally. I am asked where I am from. Instead of saying NOVA and having to go into detail, I just say I'm from DC. It's easier and less confusing.

Personally I hate explaining where Laos is located and I sometimes identify myself as Thai to save my breath and energy.

Which is ironic (not that you choose not to, but for businesses and gals). Given that some of us mongers travel frequently, I would likely be more rather than less attracted to an add that had something less common. Whether a Lao restaurant or a Lao woman.

[Sexingit]

While I don't have anywhere close to your experience with all matters Thai, I have noticed a tendency for some Lao providers to identify as Thai. I don't know if this because they feel Thai women have a better reputation, or that more people are familiar with Lao vs Thai, or what. And this is especially true when the Lao woman has even a tiny drop of Thai in her family lineage.

It certainly doesn't matter to me as I find them equally attractive. But for some reason it definitely seems to matter to them.

Just like many Lao restaurants, they identify themselves as Thai to deflect any explanation of origin simply because it's easier. And the reputation of Thai ladies makes them more attractive.

The same goes to people from Northern Virginia. When vacationing. Especially internationally. I am asked where I am from. Instead of saying NOVA and having to go into detail, I just say I'm from DC. It's easier and less confusing.

Personally I hate explaining where Laos is located and I sometimes identify myself as Thai to save my breath and energy.

[JmSuttr]

I feel for you, amigo; many of us have (unfortunately) tolerated this sort of substandard behavior and (just as unfortunate) not done anything when it happened. Yet, here was a perfect instance to put this sort of treatment in its place. The 'prelude' (namely, the harping and complaining during the shower, the upset attitude when asking for harder pressure, etc.) should prepare your mind that the session will likely leave you unsatisfied or very unimpressed.

When she finished in 20 minutes and requested a tip before continuing, that would have been the time to act.

• Climb down off the table.

• Get dressed.

• Depart, leaving no tip (or, perhaps a very small tip, like .05).

The look of surprise on a therapist's face, once she realizes what you're doing and when she figures out the sort of tip she's going to get, can often be very amusing. Sometimes, she will begin making a scene, which can cause the MMS to come out of the 'office'. At that point, you can explain to the MMS what happened, telling her that you were shorted on time and that the therapist was complaining, etc. , and that you will be taking future business elsewhere.

Granted, your session won't end any better, but it will at least save you some wasted tip money and give you the satisfaction of having solved this sort of problem for some future mongers. Also, that therapist will likely not be working there or at other area AMPs much longer. And, you can apply the. 4 tip that you saved toward a massage at a better location. I still remember the reactions I got the first time I took this course of action, when I got bad service and decided that I didn't want a sour therapist giving me a mechanical finish (at best). It's not easy to do, when you're already on the table, but it is necessary when you get this kind of service. More of us have all too often succumbed to the alternative.

Live and learn, my friend.

Repeat business is not in her mind, she's strictly churn and burn. And, since she's the owner, MMS and the only masseuse, the best recourse is to avoid Panya altogether and save every penny of your hard-earned $ for someplace else.

[JmSuttr]

Many Lao end up living in Isaan Thailand, Nong Khai, Ubon Ratchathani, etc before moving to the US. She is defiantly Lao. I speak Thai fairy well and ended up speaking more Isaan dialect with her.

While I don't have anywhere close to your experience with all matters Thai, I have noticed a tendency for some Lao providers to identify as Thai. I don't know if this because they feel Thai women have a better reputation, or that more people are familiar with Lao vs Thai, or what. And this is especially true when the Lao woman has even a tiny drop of Thai in her family lineage.

It certainly doesn't matter to me as I find them equally attractive. But for some reason it definitely seems to matter to them.

[JmSuttr]

Got Ellie as a massage therapist (cute girl). I told her that 60 dollars was cost advertised online. She stated that is has always been 80, no problem I said. Table shower was good and clean. Then she keep harping that she was certified and the cost was 80, because the Chinese and koreans are cheap and service is bad. After shower we went back to the therapy room which was nice and clean. Then the massage started, which started as a whole body rub, I told her to go harder, she seemed upset that I requested a strong massage. She finished in 20 minutes, and me flip and requested a tip before anything happens. I pulled out money. 4 for relief. She stood by my feet so no touching. The place is nice, but the therapist was only talking about money mostly, which ruins the mood. Rating for massage 3 to 4. I would not return.

I've seen her a couple of times and the 2nd time I was hoping for a better result but it didn't happen.

She's always rushed, gives a barely adequate massage and talks no-stop about herself and how rough she has it and how guys pay her lots of $ for nothing more than a HJ.

She's at least part Thai and I heard from another Thai masseuse that Ellie can't get anyone to work with her because she's cheap and wants to keep all the good clients for herself. So most of the time she's by herself so clients get put into one room while she finishes a rushed session in another. She will always tell you "wait just 5 minutes" but it's total BS and you'll be waiting as long as it takes to get rid of her earlier client.

So Panya gets a big thumbs down from me unless Ellie gets a new girl to help out. And then I would only visit to try out the new masseuse and not Ellie.

[JmSuttr]

Got it. Thanks for the details. Sounds like a good option of that's your niche. We've all spent as much or money on less service. For me the "look but don't touch" would drive me insane, but the quality of massage sounds compelling.

Haven't seen Jane for a while but I can confirm that if she likes you (may take repeat visits) the headlights should come out and shine. Some gentle roaming may also be allowed but YMMV, as always. It also doesn't hurt to learn a few Russian phrases to get a smile out of her and get her to open up a bit. Some useful ones are "sposibo" (spuh-see-buh) for please, "pajalusta" (pazh-owl-stuh) for thank you and "mozhna?" (mozh-nuh) for May I? The more she sees you as a gentleman the better her response.

Since AMP prices are generally 80 + 40 = 120 for just a HJ, and higher for roaming and other options, Jane is a bit more expensive but not excessively so, IMHO. The quality of the massage alone makes her a worthwhile option. She also leaves plenty of time between sessions which means you are never rushed. I haven't repeated simply because I enjoy variety and had reached the limits of what she would allow.

Also, unless she's gained a lot of weight since my last visit, I wouldn't classify her as a BBW. Curvy and voluptuous, yes, but not BBW.