Like Beef Lolo?

[DeepShot]

Empire was hype. Average looking skinny girls who were passed off as much younger than they were. Good service by most, but had plenty losers too. BBFS was had by many too, which blinded dicks to thinking the girls were pretty, LOL.

Was a nice run. It was good to get BBBJ and some BBFS with younger looking pros. No shortage of better looking pros around today. Have to hunt for the BBFS younger ones, but they are out there.

[Johnny14]

It's kinda what I do.

Can't allow to be spanked, unless that turns him on?

[Makiki]

I still got the sign, the one that was over the door from New Yorker. LOL.

Wow, I should get my empire memorabilia such as one of the room chair, CD player, or the table shower itself.

[AllNuts]

Yup, was just thinking that New Yorker been gone over a decade and it was missed, then empire came up. You can't please 100% of the people and empire didn't. For those that loved empire did so for what was standard at empire was extra and rare at other places.

I still got the sign, the one that was over the door from New Yorker. LOL.

[Admin2]

Come on, you pussy. Fight back with some balls. He is kicking yo ass.

It's kinda what I do.

[Goser]

Someone LOVES the sound of his own voice, no??

STFU awreddy!!

Sincerely,

I808.

Nice, switching from Proof by Assertion to Ad Hominem, still waiting for something substantial. Guess it's going to be a long wait.

You realize that all you're really saying is you have nothing intelligent to say right?

Might want to quit while you still only look like half a doofus.

Just saying,

A2

Come on, you pussy. Fight back with some balls. He is kicking yo ass.

[Insatiable808]

I thought you might have difficulty comprehending what I wrote so I kept it simple. I can see I was correct in assuming that because you are doing nothing but repeating your party line without making reference to my counter argument.

I admit it showed a lot of temerity to challenge me so directly publicly considering my record for crushing the very will to live out of others that have tried in the past. Before we elevate this past casual jabs here's a thought for you. When you are involved in an argument or debate if you wish to proffer a rebuttal, it's generally considered good form to comment on the substance of the other parties argument. All you have done here is offer a fallacious argument knows as Proof by Assertion.

Go get your dictionary so you can figure out what I said, I eagerly await your response.

A2.

Someone LOVES the sound of his own voice, no??

STFU awreddy!!

Sincerely,

I808.

Nice, switching from Proof by Assertion to Ad Hominem, still waiting for something substantial. Guess it's going to be a long wait.

You realize that all you're really saying is you have nothing intelligent to say right?

Might want to quit while you still only look like half a doofus.

Just saying,

A2

[Admin2]

Tough Guy??

For wanting to keep the subject on pussy??

Tread carefully.

Name calling is the lowest form of communication.

You've done, done it now.

Peace Out.

I thought you might have difficulty comprehending what I wrote so I kept it simple. I can see I was correct in assuming that because you are doing nothing but repeating your party line without making reference to my counter argument.

I admit it showed a lot of temerity to challenge me so directly publicly considering my record for crushing the very will to live out of others that have tried in the past. Before we elevate this past casual jabs here's a thought for you. When you are involved in an argument or debate if you wish to proffer a rebuttal, it's generally considered good form to comment on the substance of the other parties argument. All you have done here is offer a fallacious argument knows as Proof by Assertion.

Go get your dictionary so you can figure out what I said, I eagerly await your response.

A2.

[Bradda Aces]

There can only be 3 reasons why Empire closed. Keep in mind this is in no particular order. 1. Imigration regulations. I tend to agree with other braddas who said we would've heard about it in the news. I mean see'Mon. Illegal immigrants providing sex for cash in the middle of Waikiki. All the Hawaii news channels would've covered that! Also it wasn't just a regular raid cause as we all know, these places open shortly after raids and all the cases were thrown out anyway. 2. Building management. Similar to CC, maybe tenants complained too much and the owner had to kick Ivy out. While this scenario is possible, Ivy would've had advanced notice and she would've let her regulars know. 3. Korean influence. Who would benefit most from Empire closing? All the other AMPs! Most other AMPs are Korean run and are backed by people we know nothing about. These people could've taken action and forced Ivy to shut down. For those who went to Empire right before they closed, did you notice those hi-res, motion activated cameras in the stairway and at the front door? Those were new and expensive so obviously Ivy wanted a close watch of who's coming. I think Empire closed due to one of these reasons but alas, I'm in the dark as much as the rest of you.

[HapaBoy86]

Not meaning to disrespect anyone here but, with Empire's demise, some are acting like it's the end of the world as we know it. Get out there and explore.

I totally agree. There are several other locations with wonderful girl. Some may be mo bettah!

[Insatiable808]

I moved this to the appropriate thread.

You have been a member here for a long time how can you not know this? We have review threads and social threads. Those guys are talking about something in the NEWS, the name of the thread isn't Meeting Women and Having Sex, it's News and Media reports, so and I know this will be tough for you, it's logical to assume that the thread is for talking about things in the, wait for it, NEWS and MEDIA.

We have threads like that so the review threads (they usually have the word REVIEW in them) stay focused on pussy.

So, until Jax decides you should be an admin, perhaps, and again I'm just spitballing here, maybe, in the future if you have an issue like that you might bring it to me and ask me. Then you don't have to try and show what a tough guy you are only to be embarrassed later for being about as wrong as you can be.

A2.

Tough Guy??

For wanting to keep the subject on pussy??

Tread carefully.

Name calling is the lowest form of communication.

You've done, done it now.

Peace Out.

[Admin2]

Perhaps YOU have missed the name: "News & Media Reports" re. Meeting Women & having sex with these women.

I would really appreciate the focus remain on that.

Talk about that other stuff elsewhere.

Reasonable request??

'Nuff said by me. I'm out.

Thanks to the other members focused on Women & the pursuit of them hotties.

Be Safe,

Insatiable808.

I moved this to the appropriate thread.

You have been a member here for a long time how can you not know this? We have review threads and social threads. Those guys are talking about something in the NEWS, the name of the thread isn't Meeting Women and Having Sex, it's News and Media reports, so and I know this will be tough for you, it's logical to assume that the thread is for talking about things in the, wait for it, NEWS and MEDIA.

We have threads like that so the review threads (they usually have the word REVIEW in them) stay focused on pussy.

So, until Jax decides you should be an admin, perhaps, and again I'm just spitballing here, maybe, in the future if you have an issue like that you might bring it to me and ask me. Then you don't have to try and show what a tough guy you are only to be embarrassed later for being about as wrong as you can be.

A2.

[Bobb Sledd]

One thing people have to understand is that it is an endangered species. Same for trying to preserve the rainforest / bushes even pubic hair bushes or ecosystem important for around us. Or even if someone killed your dog or loved one. I'm sure you wouldn't be happy about that.

To paraphrase the genius below (who doesn't think a dentist is a doctor) "get the facts"; African Lions are not listed under the Endangered Species Act. By the way, the formal title of a dentist is Doctor of Dental Surgery. Get the facts!

The guy was a dentist not a doctor. Do your research get the facts. One lion in fucking Africa of all places isn't hurting the fucking ecosystem. Feel free to hug all the lions you can and report how cute and cuddly they are.

[StripedFashion]

Not meaning to disrespect anyone here but, with Empire's demise, some are acting like it's the end of the world as we know it. Get out there and explore. There are many very good girls at the other AMPs and, believe it or not, many are better in the sex department than some of those Empire girls--in my experience. BTW, for the Lux and Wara fans, both of them provided the very same service described in your Empire reviews when they were at Hula Girl last year, so what you got with them at Empire wasn't really just an Empire thing. Both of these girls just love to fuck no matter where they are working at. I am betting both will be back here on Oahu.

Totally agree with you, brother about going to explore and find new gold elsewhere. But like the also defunct Volcano Girls agency, Empire was the one stop shop for a good bunch of us. A lot put their eggs into that one basket. In fact, it was the only place I really mongered last year. My first year in the AMP scene. I tried to go back to (my longest time favorite sno-bunnie) escorts and no where near the same as Ivy's. I also remember doing weeks of research here on the forum before I narrowed it down to Empire. The slump in the escort scene did compel me to move into foreign waters.

I used to thrive on TOFFT escort mongering back in the day but not so much now. AMP convert now. But to find that gold, off into foreign waters once again! I also admit I miss banging hot white girls.

[Goser]

Not meaning to disrespect anyone here but, with Empire's demise, some are acting like it's the end of the world as we know it. Get out there and explore. There are many very good girls at the other AMPs and, believe it or not, many are better in the sex department than some of those Empire girls--in my experience. BTW, for the Lux and Wara fans, both of them provided the very same service described in your Empire reviews when they were at Hula Girl last year, so what you got with them at Empire wasn't really just an Empire thing. Both of these girls just love to fuck no matter where they are working at. I am betting both will be back here on Oahu.

I agree. Maybe they will go to Happiness where they have the good facilities that will enable them to do their thing.