"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Zman429]

Meet them at the coffee shop. Try to get there first and when you see them coming just invite them into your car, where you can have a "private discussion". Works every time. From there you can go to the FC or not.

I live in Vegas and there are definitely girls that have jobs but realize at the end of the month they need additional funds. So they seem to be a bit more open to things. But we'll see.

[DogSun]

I'm thinking about trying SD4 Me next. I remember some reports on here awhile back ago that the site was still charging members after they cancelled. Is anyone still having problems with this?

[HollywoodGuy]

Hi, what are you guys finding works best when meeting a new sb. Just meeting at the FC and seeing how it goes or doing a m&g moving on to the FC? I'm thinking about trying this out but the thought of meeting a 21 why / o who is a different race at a public restaurant / coffee shop isn't something I can get my head around.

Meet them at the coffee shop. Try to get there first and when you see them coming just invite them into your car, where you can have a "private discussion". Works every time. From there you can go to the FC or not.

[Bowtie]

Fred is spot on, a utr or pro will go or meet at the fc, I've only done that once, and frankly never saw her again. Not because we didn't get along or she wasn't hot because she was, I simply don't want that! All of my others I have done the m&g's. A couple of time have felt out of place because of race or age so now I use the local restaurant / bar finding apps to find a quiet pub close to the baby. Make it easy and safe for her, quiet for me (so we don't need to yell), and not uncomfortable or awkward. Hell, several places would look at me as a regular now!

Depends on what you are looking for. If you can not date out and about due to marriage constraints or social stigmas just go straight to the FC. Her agreement to do that places her in the UTR or almost UTR category, so you will not attract the Sweet college girl who would be aghast at meeting a stranger like that.

OTOH if you want a true SB to wine and dine and have a real relationship outside the FC go for a coffee / dinner meet.

I like the second type but I need to do the first. I want a pre-UTR. Usually they see how easy it is to make loads of $$ screwing a senior citizen and start adding clients.

[FredMoore]

Hi, what are you guys finding works best when meeting a new sb. Just meeting at the FC and seeing how it goes or doing a m&g moving on to the FC? I'm thinking about trying this out but the thought of meeting a 21 why / o who is a different race at a public restaurant / coffee shop isn't something I can get my head around.

Depends on what you are looking for. If you can not date out and about due to marriage constraints or social stigmas just go straight to the FC. Her agreement to do that places her in the UTR or almost UTR category, so you will not attract the Sweet college girl who would be aghast at meeting a stranger like that.

OTOH if you want a true SB to wine and dine and have a real relationship outside the FC go for a coffee / dinner meet.

I like the second type but I need to do the first. I want a pre-UTR. Usually they see how easy it is to make loads of $$ screwing a senior citizen and start adding clients.

[Zman429]

Hi, what are you guys finding works best when meeting a new sb. Just meeting at the FC and seeing how it goes or doing a m&g moving on to the FC? I'm thinking about trying this out but the thought of meeting a 21 why / o who is a different race at a public restaurant / coffee shop isn't something I can get my head around.

[FotoGuy1970]

Had a few interesting things of note happen with me in the past couple weeks:

I was in another city for a bit of business for a day. I thought I would use SD4 M to hit up some of the local girls while I was there, see if they wanted to M&G and go from there. One of them responded quickly, but she was already an hour away doing something else. Her texts came very slowly. After over two hours, she still hadn't given me a time we could meet at or even a name I could call her (fake or otherwise). I think she was a pro or a UTR who was on the road and seeing a couple of other customers while trying to schedule something with me. I finally gave up on her while I met my other respondent.

The only other respondent who hit me up in time before I had to leave was very nice, friendly, flirty. I met her for a M&G and I thought we hit it off great. She definitely seemed interested. We decided to take things back to my room. We both drove separately. Before I was even back at my room, she had sent me a text claiming she had some family emergency. Maybe true, but the timing of that seemed highly suspect. I guess maybe I wasn't her type and she didn't have the guts to tell me to my face. I really wish these girls would learn to just tell us to our face that they're not interested, instead of leaving us hanging or cutting us off just as we think a FC date will start. And it's not that she got cold feet I think, she has had other SDs in the past (or at least that's what she claimed). So who knows.

After I returned home, I had a single mom respond to my SA message. Met up for a M&G that seemed to go okay. She told me she was interested in having an arrangement with me. But since the M&G she's gone radio silent. She had never done this sort of thing before, so I think she decided she couldn't pull the trigger, or I had another case of meeting a girl who decided I really wasn't her type but couldn't tell me to my face.

One of the local girls who has been on the site for quite some time and has always expressed wanting a high allowance contacted me again. I'm not sure if she remembers me from a couple of the previous discussions we've had. But I'm guessing she's realized that the mega-millionaires are very rare in our area, so she's starting to think a little more reasonably. We're still discussing things in messages, but just the fact that she's still listening to me when I gave her a lower donation than what she's normally stated is a huge step in the right direction.

Another local girl contacted me, but she's all over the place. She's one of the tbops whom I love, but she's one of the tbops who lacks the maturity that some of the other girls her age I've seen. We're supposed to meet up today for a very brief M&G and then straight to the FC, but I'm really wondering if this girl is all talk. So far, that's all I've seen from her.

[ToeLover57]

This the same girl who was Jamie 19 AA in Williamsburg last week. I was the first to message her when she showed up as a newbie last week. She said she was interested in a intimate physical relationship and wanted to meet me for dinner last Sunday. But that wouldn't work for me so it was put off until later. Haven't met yet.

A few days later she put her pics private. When I messaged her, she said too many rude messages. Then she deleted her account. But is back with new name and city but the same public pics and more info in her profile. Getting ready to message and see what is up?

[ToeLover57]

Anyone seen her? We exchanged some messages but she didn't seem to want to carry on much of a conversation but wanted to meet next time I was passing through.

[FyrGuy33]

As I had said last month, I was cutting loose all but 1 of the girls in my rotation. With that in mind, I followed thru and last week I re-instated my SA premium membership. I have to say, it has been some very fertile ground. No trips the the FC yet, but I do have the following going on:

POT#1) 21 why / o AA co-ed. 5'4", 105 lbs. , cute as a button. Had talked to this one 5 months ago and she was GPS and turned down my offer of $150. She saw that I had a premium membership again and contacted me. She admitted that nobody was willing to give her what she wanted and actually ended up with 0 dates. We have e-mailed and talked on the phone. We have a m&g set for Monday, with a trip to the FC if we are comfortable. I will report back next week. A shout out to HWG for inspiring me to pursue the young AA girl.

POT#2) 45 why / o white MILF. 5'5", 120 lbs. , good body for a mid 40's MILF. Trying to set up a m&g for tomorrow evening. Our schedules have not aligned.

POT#3) 34 why / o Latina nurse. (Did I ever mention I am a sucker for nurses?) 5'4" 115 lbs. , smoking hot. M&G set for Friday afternoon with a trip to the FC if we are comfortable. This one is really giving all indications she is ready.

BTW, pot#2 & pot#3 have also agreed to $150. The tactic I use is to tell them that my last SB accepted $100 per date. That way, when they want more I can move to the $150, which is what I budgeted anyway.

So, reports on this to follow. I still have 24 days left on my membership to troll. I'm hoping to find the petite, young Asian or Redhead. With any luck, one or both will join in my area soon.

[PhxFunLover]

Just show her a map of Europe with big black Xs through Greece and Spain. She won't get it, but visual aids are impressive.

That gave me a good chuckle.

[HollywoodGuy]

Agree with HWG on his assessement of tbops. Some are good and can teach you a thing or two, some not so much. The 19 Asian falls into the former category. She is so skilled, it was no surprise when she told me about her sexual history.

So my take on tbops is that when you find a good one, they are worth the trouble. Often they come with more drama, and often need more coaxing to get to the FC. !

Aside from skills I actually find it easier to get them to the FC. But no well vetted girl should be hard to get to the FC. But as far as personality in the FC, I find them much more fun, experienced or not.

[IluvSmellyFish]

So I've kicked the Asian grad student from rotation and replaced her with the 19 why / o Asian. My summer rotation is made up of two tbops and I'm working a 20 year old nursing student pot.

Agree with HWG on his assessement of tbops. Some are good and can teach you a thing or two, some not so much. The 19 Asian falls into the former category. She is so skilled, it was no surprise when she told me about her sexual history. I'm her first SD she met off SA, but not the first "daddy" she's ever had. The three hour FC session was crazy. And the neighboring room's tv had to have been on the loudest volume setting by the end of it. This one was a screamer / moaner.

Took my 19 blonde blue eyed swim instructor out for her birthday. She officially turned 19. She is not nearly as good in bed as my 19 Asian, and lacks experience, but for me that's a huge turn on. She is a little awkward when she tries to ride me, and her hips lack the rythym that a seasoned pro would bring to the table, but the fact that my blondie is so sweet, inexperienced, and so eager to please, makes up for all that. She genuinely enjoys sex, and gets so wet, that its hard not to get hard just thinking about her. Teaching her new positions and seeing her expressions of surprise when she really likes one makes up for the lack of experience.

So my take on tbops is that when you find a good one, they are worth the trouble. Often they come with more drama, and often need more coaxing to get to the FC. Finding an innocent pyt who wants to please is huge draw of the bowl. If I'm looking for a hot sexpot who knows her way around the bedroom, I'm more apt to contact a trusted provider or one of the many talented modeling agencies that exist in the areas where I play. Don't get me wrong though. I would never turn away a hot sexpot, regardless of if I found her on SA or found her via other means.

In any case, my summer search has come to a close. I will be enjoying the fruits of my labor for the next few months, but will be back up online with a reupped SA account once the fall semester begins.

Best of luck gents!

[Member #5144]

I find there are two generic strategies that work:

My portfolio / investments took a big hit this month and I am not going to have any free cash until the markets recover.

Just show her a map of Europe with big black Xs through Greece and Spain. She won't get it, but visual aids are impressive.

[Member #5144]

I forgot to mention that when I dropped her off she drove off in a Mercedes. She has to be a pro. Will find out Saturday.

Would be easier to share intel if we had her handle.