Massage Parlor Reports

[Tommy Anonymus]

She cites the growth in online reviews of providers in RI over a 10+ year span as evidence that prostitution in RI increased greatly during those years. Go back and look at the years. They are the years (starting in 1995) when the public at large started getting on the internet in a big way (1995+).

Of course there aren't going to be as many online reviews when there weren't as many people online to post reviews. I would bet you $1000 there's a similar increase in the rate of restaurant reviews in RI over the same span of yuears, does that mean people went out to eat (or ate that much more) during those same years?

She may think she has noble goals but if this report is any indication Hughes is a bullshit academic.

Exactly right. To make her point, all she would have to do is compare growth in online reviews in RI to online reviews in another state that didn't have a legal loophole. The fact that she didn't means that either she doesn't understand statistics or that the data doesn't support her point so she leaves it out. Either way, shoddy scholarship. But we already knew that she's a crusader more than an academic. Her conclusions were decided before the data was gathered.

[Choir Boy]

No, their clothes are covering them from their necks to their feet. Like the new ordinance states, looks like they are going by the rules.

Thanks; that's what I thought.

As you know, I prefer AMP's and am only reporting from PM's. But at both Enso and Opulence isn't it what they're wearing or not wearing at the end that counts. IMHO? I really doubt that I will ever go to Opulence but any reports here would be welcomed, I'm sure.

And I really loved those shorts that Yoko and Cece wore.

I do prefer the skimpy outfits. I guess the law is the law, at least in some establishments. The lady I saw at Pleasant Street was dressed in a skimpy negligee thing.

[Rei Haragoma]

Given the current climate I think it's time for a weekend in Flushing. Anyone have any intel on AMPs, hotels, restaurants, etc?

If you like Chinese food, the absolute best place is The Red Bowl Noodle Shop, 50-52 Main Street in Flushing. 5 stars in everything they serve. Always busy it seems, but top-notch food with a ginormous menu, and generous portions, all moderately priced.

Get out of Flushing for a motel. Try the Crown Motor Inn, 7401 Queens Blvd in Elmhurst. Parking right at the Inn. Decent rates, and you can rent for 4 hours minimum if you want. Run by friendly Latino people; place is clean; and you can get a room with a HUGE Jacuzzi, which you and your lady friend will enjoy, and will set the mood!

I can't offer an AMP however, but there's plenty nearby. I suggest the forums for locations.

[Ambrose]

Given the current climate I think it's time for a weekend in Flushing. Anyone have any intel on AMPs, hotels, restaurants, etc?

I've thought about a road trip to Flushing, then I was thinking, the girls all go there for their bacation also where they live not for more work. I've checked BP a while ago to see about spas there and I wasn't impressed. Maybe if I dug a little deeper I could come up with more information to convince me otherwise.

I'm sure we could put together a few guys for the trip.

[Mr Malecon]

Given the current climate I think it's time for a weekend in Flushing. Anyone have any intel on AMPs, hotels, restaurants, etc?

Queens.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...Parlor-Reports

Chinatown.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...Parlor-Reports

Providence, before the mess was better.

[Sr Diablito]

Given the current climate I think it's time for a weekend in Flushing. Anyone have any intel on AMPs, hotels, restaurants, etc?

[Sr Diablito]

Sorry, but I've never liked that "lower rates of sex crimes against women" argument. That implies that instead of raping somebody a rapist will just go to a spa. Maybe true, but I don't want to hear it, and it's not a good point to argue IMO. A person who is against spa's isn't going to say, "oh, that's a good outlet for the rapists", "we'll let the spa's stay open".

Good point.

[iamioman]

Here's a good, and funny read. The funny part is when they talk about cheaters.

https://www.academia.edu/12125214/De...d_Exploitation

There may be some sound data in that report, but one of the very first conclusions she bases her whole arguyment on is completely bogus and makes a rookie mistake of confusing a correlation with a cause.

She cites the growth in online reviews of providers in RI over a 10+ year span as evidence that prostitution in RI increased greatly during those years. Go back and look at the years. They are the years (starting in 1995) when the public at large started getting on the internet in a big way (1995+).

Of course there aren't going to be as many online reviews when there weren't as many people online to post reviews. I would bet you $1000 there's a similar increase in the rate of restaurant reviews in RI over the same span of yuears, does that mean people went out to eat (or ate that much more) during those same years?

She may think she has noble goals but if this report is any indication Hughes is a bullshit academic.

[Member #4942]

I have read good things about Opulence, but I have also read that they are professionally dressed. Have they started wearing more skimpy outfits like the girls at the former Main Avenue?

As you know, I prefer AMP's and am only reporting from PM's. But at both Enso and Opulence isn't it what they're wearing or not wearing at the end that counts. IMHO? I really doubt that I will ever go to Opulence but any reports here would be welcomed, I'm sure.

And I really loved those shorts that Yoko and Cece wore.

[Ambrose]

I have read good things about Opulence, but I have also read that they are professionally dressed. Have they started wearing more skimpy outfits like the girls at the former Main Avenue?

No, their clothes are covering them from their necks to their feet. Like the new ordinance states, looks like they are going by the rules.

[Choir Boy]

I think we're "beating a dead horse" and need to get back to reporting the good and bad at the spas. For example, is M still the best "other worldly" experience? But seriously, the spas are open and seem to be "safe", and we need to continue to help one another.

A number of PM's to me have been very favorable about Opulance. Techs are young, beautiful and have become accommodating. May be worth a visit. They sure look good on BP every day.

I have read good things about Opulence, but I have also read that they are professionally dressed. Have they started wearing more skimpy outfits like the girls at the former Main Avenue?

[Member #5912]

Here's a good, and funny read. The funny part is when they talk about cheaters.

https://www.academia.edu/12125214/De...d_Exploitation

[Rebrobate218]

Good deduction, and because the spa girls never walk the street it is in fact another reason that the argument for legalizing spa's to reduce rape is a ridiculous one. Maybe it can be argued somewhere but not in providence.

I read an article which basically said that in the state of Rhode Island STD rates where lower when the spas were not criminalized. That article did not get the play of all of the undercover journalist going into spas. Maybe it can be argued in Providence.

[Member #5912]

That was my first thought when I heard that to and I similar objections, but I think what the argument really is is that when an activity is criminalized it has to operate in the shadows and attracts shadowy people.

Ex. When sex for money is legal, a brothel / spa / individual can work in a well lit professional environment with security cameras, etc.

When it's illegal, women wanting / needingi to do that kind of work have to work out of their homes or on the street. Either of which puts them in potentially more risky situations (craigslist strangers, people wanting rob / rape them).

So not it's not that johns will rape women if they can't pay for sex legally, It's that douchebags who might rape have more targets in women that are easier to prey on when prostitution is illegal. (women walking along late at night in not-particularly safe parts of the city instead of working in a well lit business with a screener and other employees in case anything happens).

Good deduction, and because the spa girls never walk the street it is in fact another reason that the argument for legalizing spa's to reduce rape is a ridiculous one. Maybe it can be argued somewhere but not in providence.

[iamioman]

Sorry, but I've never liked that "lower rates of sex crimes against women" argument. That implies that instead of raping somebody a rapist will just go to a spa. Maybe true, but I don't want to hear it, and it's not a good point to argue IMO. A person who is against spa's isn't going to say, "oh, that's a good outlet for the rapists", "we'll let the spa's stay open".

That was my first thought when I heard that to and I similar objections, but I think what the argument really is is that when an activity is criminalized it has to operate in the shadows and attracts shadowy people.

Ex. When sex for money is legal, a brothel / spa / individual can work in a well lit professional environment with security cameras, etc.

When it's illegal, women wanting / needingi to do that kind of work have to work out of their homes or on the street. Either of which puts them in potentially more risky situations (craigslist strangers, people wanting rob / rape them).

So not it's not that johns will rape women if they can't pay for sex legally, It's that douchebags who might rape have more targets in women that are easier to prey on when prostitution is illegal. (women walking along late at night in not-particularly safe parts of the city instead of working in a well lit business with a screener and other employees in case anything happens).