"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[HollywoodGuy]

Any you guys reach fatigue yet? I got a few new POTS, but I haven't had the energy to go through the game and the whole process. Last night I had a M&G with a girl that was practically begging to meet up. I was more annoyed about going to meet her then I was excited about the opportunity for FC. We met up and she was a total bore. I felt that she should be paying me for my time. In some cases, I've lost interest in even the FC offers from my current roster. I had a hot 21 year old that wanted to come by for NSA last night and I wasn't up to it.

I'm wondering if my lack of energy has something to do with an incident that happened a couple days ago. I'm in line at the grocery and I see a girl in her 20's that looks familiar. I go home and log in to SA and it's the same girl. I chatted her up and true enough it was her. She didn't remember me from the grocery, but she gave me this spill about being short for rent next month. Is the bowl the new preferred dating site for all college age girls in the DMV?

You don't know what bored is until you CAN"T look for any new girls. Count your blessings guys.

[FTP1999]

I am not bored and looking for a few new good ones. Please PM me the ones you are bored with.

Ftp1999.

Any you guys reach fatigue yet? I got a few new POTS, but I haven't had the energy to go through the game and the whole process. Last night I had a M&G with a girl that was practically begging to meet up. I was more annoyed about going to meet her then I was excited about the opportunity for FC. We met up and she was a total bore. I felt that she should be paying me for my time. In some cases, I've lost interest in even the FC offers from my current roster. I had a hot 21 year old that wanted to come by for NSA last night and I wasn't up to it.

I'm wondering if my lack of energy has something to do with an incident that happened a couple days ago. I'm in line at the grocery and I see a girl in her 20's that looks familiar. I go home and log in to SA and it's the same girl. I chatted her up and true enough it was her. She didn't remember me from the grocery, but she gave me this spill about being short for rent next month. Is the bowl the new preferred dating site for all college age girls in the DMV?

[FyrGuy33]

I had a dream that Heaven11 is a pro masquerading as a baby. I kind of knew it going in. All the signs were there. But thought with my little head. Once I got there felt like I had to go through with it and forked over a not insignificant amount. Tried to get into it but she was too cold. Insisted on seeing the donation and counting it before she would even touch (which also made me paranoid about My uncle swinging by). Luckily (for me fate intervened. I had accidentally dropped my protection in the parking lot and she wouldn't proceed to even bare minimum without it which as you all know is atypical for the babies. So faced with the choice of going to the car to get more or going to the car and just leaving, I chose the the latter. Her admonition of "hurry back, your hour is running" was the final blow.

Pissed that I wasted the cash but with two free babies in active duty right now and other warm and sweet POTs in the development phase, this was just a great reminder of why I left that game.

That was definitely a pro. When dealing with SB's never agree to pay up front. Never go over your budget no matter how hot she is. Cover what activities are expected before you get to the FC so you are thinking more with the big head. And most importantly, always be prepared to walk if things are not as you want them to be. There are far more of them than there are of us. It's really not hard to just say NEXT!

[Member #6951]

Based in DC but travel to Boston often. It's a great market. Going rate seems to be same as DC. I think a little higher than you are expecting, but quality and amount of time makes it worth the investment in my book. I've gotten all day or repeat visits for what turned out to be a very reasonable consideration. Happy to share my thoughts by PM.

[Member #6951]

I had a dream that Heaven11 is a pro masquerading as a baby. I kind of knew it going in. All the signs were there. But thought with my little head. Once I got there felt like I had to go through with it and forked over a not insignificant amount. Tried to get into it but she was too cold. Insisted on seeing the donation and counting it before she would even touch (which also made me paranoid about My uncle swinging by). Luckily (for me fate intervened. I had accidentally dropped my protection in the parking lot and she wouldn't proceed to even bare minimum without it which as you all know is atypical for the babies. So faced with the choice of going to the car to get more or going to the car and just leaving, I chose the the latter. Her admonition of "hurry back, your hour is running" was the final blow.

Pissed that I wasted the cash but with two free babies in active duty right now and other warm and sweet POTs in the development phase, this was just a great reminder of why I left that game.

[HoyaSvnFgr]

Any you guys reach fatigue yet? I got a few new POTS, but I haven't had the energy to go through the game and the whole process. Last night I had a M&G with a girl that was practically begging to meet up. I was more annoyed about going to meet her then I was excited about the opportunity for FC. We met up and she was a total bore. I felt that she should be paying me for my time. In some cases, I've lost interest in even the FC offers from my current roster. I had a hot 21 year old that wanted to come by for NSA last night and I wasn't up to it.

I'm wondering if my lack of energy has something to do with an incident that happened a couple days ago. I'm in line at the grocery and I see a girl in her 20's that looks familiar. I go home and log in to SA and it's the same girl. I chatted her up and true enough it was her. She didn't remember me from the grocery, but she gave me this spill about being short for rent next month. Is the bowl the new preferred dating site for all college age girls in the DMV?

[FyrGuy33]

Well it's been an exciting week, after discovering this thread (excellent resource, like I found the missing code book) and doing several hours of reading I took the plunge and opened an SA account.

That was Monday. I put up a reasonably crafted profile, sent out a number of Hey Baby Girls, and the response has been very good.

I'm in the Boston area so there are tons of collages. Right now I'm carrying a conversation with 10 pots, and really I think I've a good chance of 3-5 m&g's in the next week or so.

But I do have some questions for the more experienced hands.

1. I put up a profile pic that shows my clothed body (I'm in seriously great shape) and just a part of my face, what seems to be the standard. What do most do? I'm older, 58, claimed 52 on the site but can easily pass for 45 ish.

I'm not Brad Pitt but not a gargoyle either. No one has even me asked to send a full face shot.

2. I have very good income, but as we know the more you make, the more you spend, and I'm not sure I did the right thing by checking it off on the profile box.

Marriage, my own kids in collage, takes it toll and I don't want to look like a lolly-pop and get the sucker pricing. My budget for this is OK but not over the top.

3. Our going rate for working BP girls $ 1/2 for 1/2 hour, $$ to $$$ for an hour and like anywhere BP is BP, diamonds yes but lots of rough. Hot Euro girls get 4 $ downtown.

I'm thinking with the 18-23 crowd, $ is the start maybe slightly less, maybe more, reasonable?

Is there anyone here with solid Boston experience? All comments and suggestion are welcome. Thanks.

Welcome to the bowl. As long as the pic makes you look reasonably good, don't worry about it. These girls are not as hung up on looks as we are. They are more interested in how well you treat them and some sugar, not necessarily in that order. Don't go too high on the income level. The more you show the more the girls will want. Now, they are not going to go to the FC for free. But, you can start your offers at $100 and work up from there. Be mindful of what your budget will allow you to spend per month and stick to it. My personal rule of thumb is to do p4 p, and never more than $200 per date. I try to stay at $150 or less. Some will tell you no, they want more. Stick to your budget. I recently had a POT tell me that she was not interested in anything less than $250.1 month later she agreed to $150 with me because she was meeting nothing but assholes who never came up with the sugar dates. Also, remember that SB's should spend a couple of hours with you for that. Escorts charge by the hour, SB's accept gifts for a date. Don't be bashful about reminding them of that if they start to push the issue.

Good luck in the bowl and play safe. Be sure to update us occasionally on your progress.

[Zcochran00]

Apparently being barely average looking but not being a complete creeper pays off yet again!

Absolutely. Still early on in my sugar experience, but the girls I've talked to so far have all said they'd met a bunch of flakes and creeps, and were very happy I'm a reasonable, decent, and friendly kind of guy.

[SouthShoreAlex]

Well it's been an exciting week, after discovering this thread (excellent resource, like I found the missing code book) and doing several hours of reading I took the plunge and opened an SA account.

That was Monday. I put up a reasonably crafted profile, sent out a number of Hey Baby Girls, and the response has been very good.

I'm in the Boston area so there are tons of collages. Right now I'm carrying a conversation with 10 pots, and really I think I've a good chance of 3-5 m&g's in the next week or so.

But I do have some questions for the more experienced hands.

1. I put up a profile pic that shows my clothed body (I'm in seriously great shape) and just a part of my face, what seems to be the standard. What do most do? I'm older, 58, claimed 52 on the site but can easily pass for 45 ish.

I'm not Brad Pitt but not a gargoyle either. No one has even me asked to send a full face shot.

2. I have very good income, but as we know the more you make, the more you spend, and I'm not sure I did the right thing by checking it off on the profile box.

Marriage, my own kids in collage, takes it toll and I don't want to look like a lolly-pop and get the sucker pricing. My budget for this is OK but not over the top.

3. Our going rate for working BP girls $ 1/2 for 1/2 hour, $$ to $$$ for an hour and like anywhere BP is BP, diamonds yes but lots of rough. Hot Euro girls get 4 $ downtown.

I'm thinking with the 18-23 crowd, $ is the start maybe slightly less, maybe more, reasonable?

Is there anyone here with solid Boston experience? All comments and suggestion are welcome. Thanks.

[JZLizard]

Problem with replacement therapy is that after a while your body becomes dependent. You stop producing it naturally. Great for the doc and pharmacy since it means you're hooked on it until you die.

This is the problem with pretty much any drug. Your body becomes dependent, and usually starts to approach it's pre-drug state, yet with the additional burden of requiring the drug on an ongoing basis, and the pain of knowing what happens if you stop.

There is no money to be made in truly healthy, drug-free people. If the health industry started truly curing our woes once and for all, they would put themselves out of a job. So which is better to trust, the doctors who get kickbacks and incentives on drug sales or the signals our own body sends us?

[JZLizard]

All true-but a guy who's dick is not working as he would like it to will do anything it takes to correct that. Holistic care is #1 -diet, exercise, nutrients-but there is a time and place for Big Pharma-even at those ridiculous and highly inflated prices. It seems JL that your parts are working well without all that. Hopefully for your sake it will continue.

I am a strong user of drugs -and am appreciative of them.

Exercise and diet are my medicines for now. If I slack off on exercise, I pay the price on sexual performance, no doubt. When the time comes, I may dabble in ED drugs because to the best of my understanding they do not carry the risks of growth hormone and such, but I will never get to the point of taking them regularly.

If my dick stopped completely stopped working tomorrow -- I look at it just like if I was in an accident got paralyzed from the neck down or something. Life goes on -- fucking is a big part of my life but it's not the only thing in my life that's worthwhile. I still have hobbies and things I enjoy, most of which are still completely doable with a non-functioning dick and some of them quite doable even if paralyzed.

There was a standup comic, I forget who, who used to say the only time he's not depressed is during the brief moment when he's cumming (LOL). Maybe it is that same state of mental well-being (or lack of) that feeds sex addiction to the point that males feel like life is not worth living if they can't get a rock-hard boner? Or that they will do anything, including taking health risks that will likely decrease their life overall?

My point is that I agree completely with what you said -- guys will go to crazy extremes just to battle against nature a bit and keep a boner. But think about it, how sad is that? How can someone go through decade after decade of their lives, and not have built some aspect of their own existence that is worthwhile other than watching their penis spurt goo?

I may almost be sounding anti-sex here -- I'm not, I love banging hot young SBs as much as anybody. But I've written about the dangers of addiction here before, even to the point that I'm often glad I am grounded in a long term relationship, which helps me maintain perspective and not get too caught up in the addiction.

It's just like people get addicted to alcohol, tobacco, overeating or whatever, and they convince themselves that without that cigarette or without that twinkie they just might as well curl up and die because there's no point in living.

Nothing wrong with using our boners to their maximum potential while we are able, and battling nature in ways that are safe (like boosting our testosterone naturally through exercise), but with or without drugs most people are not going to have a particularly great or interesting sex life for the last decade or two of their lives no matter what, so why set ourselves up for a certain expectation level that is only going to cause us to crash even harder later, and make the last decade or two more miserable than they would have already been?

Just my perspective -- I'm not trying to sell anyone else on assuming my philosophy, only to consider the health risks associated with drugs.

[Member #4025]

Wouldn't leave home without it. Causes a steel rod erection that lasts 3 hours. You can go through your black book twice before it subsides. Also if you use it regularly it will thicken your rod since it is stretched under pressure for that pd of time.

Thanks FM. Your experience and words are encouraging. I see my urologist on the 7th of July to give it a try.

[FredMoore]

I'm 59 yrs old and a year and a couple of months removed from having a prostatectomy; all is good from cancer side of things and most side effects but for ED issues. I had some ED issues before the surgery and Cialis helped somewhat. Post surgery has been a different story. Meds have been ineffective; use of vacuum device facilitates a healthy erection but unable to keep it for sex; next up is to try EDEX or Caverject injections. I'm not looking forward to putting a needle in my penis, but I'm not ready to give up on having sex and I understand these drugs can provide healthy erections. Any of you have experience with either? I've followed this thread for sometime and actually had a couple of SBs presurgery, but right now I have more pressing concerns. Thanks for any light you can shed on the injections. #4025.

Wouldn't leave home without it. Causes a steel rod erection that lasts 3 hours. You can go through your black book twice before it subsides. Also if you use it regularly it will thicken your rod since it is stretched under pressure for that pd of time.

[Member #4025]

I'm 59 yrs old and a year and a couple of months removed from having a prostatectomy; all is good from cancer side of things and most side effects but for ED issues. I had some ED issues before the surgery and Cialis helped somewhat. Post surgery has been a different story. Meds have been ineffective; use of vacuum device facilitates a healthy erection but unable to keep it for sex; next up is to try EDEX or Caverject injections. I'm not looking forward to putting a needle in my penis, but I'm not ready to give up on having sex and I understand these drugs can provide healthy erections. Any of you have experience with either? I've followed this thread for sometime and actually had a couple of SBs presurgery, but right now I have more pressing concerns. Thanks for any light you can shed on the injections. #4025.

[IluvSmellyFish]

Problem with replacement therapy is that after a while your body becomes dependent. You stop producing it naturally. Great for the doc and pharmacy since it means you're hooked on it until you die.

Another option is chlomid. It stimulates natural production so even if you discontinue, you're body doesn't forget hot to make testosterone. Probably a better option for those under 50 who plan on making it to 80+.

I've noticed that more than a few of the questions / advice on here has pertained to erection problems, libido issues and overall health and fitness. I'm wondering if there's anyone on here that's taking testosterone replacement therapy? I started about 8 weeks ago, and it has completely changed my life. My waning libido is back like I'm 18 again. My erections are more frequent and harder than ever. I'm able to have sex multiple times per day. All of these things have been giving me problems over the past 2 years or so. Not to mention I've been an animal in the gym, and in general am more aggressive (not in a negative way) have an improved mood, and in general a more positive outlook on life.