"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**FredMoore** · 04-30-15 08:04

Originally Posted by Mike7794 [View Original Post]

That's an example of a guy driving up the average price for the other guys. This is the result of the large number of GPS women out there. Unless they are really hurting for sugar they can hold out for the lottery type hit.

I've noticed an increasing number of girls who demand WYP type interactions--pay for the privilege of the M&G. They are putting more hurdles out there for us to see them. I guess they are fishing for the elusive mega daddy -the super bowl of Sugardom--to whisk them off to the Caribbean and buy them designer duds while covering their rent, utilities and grocery bills. I recently chatted up 3 young college beauties who know their "worth" and will only meet if I pay them. "My time is valuable" you know. They somehow don't get the job interview concept. So what if they meet a few duds? That's life. So what happens is they sit on the bench with zero-to few dates and forego an allowance to get in the game. If they aren't desperate then they can wait for the brass ring to come --or not.

**Mike7794** · 04-30-15 06:32

Originally Posted by GuyWoodson [View Original Post]

If I had that kind of disposable income -- I would NOT be using AM!! The guy should be reading this forum!

That's an example of a guy driving up the average price for the other guys. This is the result of the large number of GPS women out there. Unless they are really hurting for sugar they can hold out for the lottery type hit.

**FyrGuy33** · 04-29-15 21:48

Originally Posted by SushiLover69 [View Original Post]

I want to thank Hollywood Guy for his 5-step plan and generous advice. Wish I had followed it before meeting this SB. Experience is an expensive teacher. I am brand new to the sugar bowl. Tried SA in Japan and got completely fleeced by a Taiwanese girl on my second date. She is 31 years old, slim, attractive. She told me she was just looking for a lover. I am 41, so it was somewhat believable. We had dinner the first date and she seemed very sweet. The second date after dinner she told me again she was feeling lonely, and just wanted companionship. We visited a hotel. Long story short, she hit me up for money after we got into the room, asked me for payment before the deed, which I foolishly paid, and then she told me that was just for cuddling, and asked for more for sex. I stared at her in disbelief. This sweet girl I had spent a few hours talking to was a total con artist. I asked for my money back. She refused, and I considered my options. Ugly situation. I told her to get out, and barely managed to keep it together. I have never been taken like that before, and I have probably banged 200+ hookers in my life.

Hopefully my experience will help someone out there. Confirm expectations, and be careful what situation you get into.

I don't know how much she took you for, but at least there is a lesson in it. Even with utr's I never pay up front. Sometimes you just have to walk away.

**JZLizard** · 04-29-15 10:25

Originally Posted by SushiLover69 [View Original Post]

I want to thank Hollywood Guy for his 5-step plan and generous advice. Wish I had followed it before meeting this SB. Experience is an expensive teacher. I am brand new to the sugar bowl. Tried SA in Japan and got completely fleeced by a Taiwanese girl on my second date. She is 31 years old, slim, attractive. She told me she was just looking for a lover. I am 41, so it was somewhat believable. We had dinner the first date and she seemed very sweet. The second date after dinner she told me again she was feeling lonely, and just wanted companionship. We visited a hotel. Long story short, she hit me up for money after we got into the room, asked me for payment before the deed, which I foolishly paid, and then she told me that was just for cuddling, and asked for more for sex. I stared at her in disbelief. This sweet girl I had spent a few hours talking to was a total con artist. I asked for my money back. She refused, and I considered my options. Ugly situation. I told her to get out, and barely managed to keep it together. I have never been taken like that before, and I have probably banged 200+ hookers in my life.

Hopefully my experience will help someone out there. Confirm expectations, and be careful what situation you get into.

Sorry you got taken, I would imagine being in a foreign country would add to the sting. The Jeezlizard Plan (tm) is not as thorough, or well thought out as Hollywoods, but it's very easy to remember: Never pre-agree to amounts, and always gift them a gift of an amount you choose after the deed. It's worked a charm for me, never been scammed.

**FredMoore** · 04-29-15 08:57

Originally Posted by SushiLover69 [View Original Post]

I want to thank Hollywood Guy for his 5-step plan and generous advice. Wish I had followed it before meeting this SB. Experience is an expensive teacher. I am brand new to the sugar bowl. Tried SA in Japan and got completely fleeced by a Taiwanese girl on my second date. She is 31 years old, slim, attractive. She told me she was just looking for a lover. I am 41, so it was somewhat believable. We had dinner the first date and she seemed very sweet. The second date after dinner she told me again she was feeling lonely, and just wanted companionship. We visited a hotel. Long story short, she hit me up for money after we got into the room, asked me for payment before the deed, which I foolishly paid, and then she told me that was just for cuddling, and asked for more for sex. I stared at her in disbelief. This sweet girl I had spent a few hours talking to was a total con artist. I asked for my money back. She refused, and I considered my options. Ugly situation. I told her to get out, and barely managed to keep it together. I have never been taken like that before, and I have probably banged 200+ hookers in my life.

Hopefully my experience will help someone out there. Confirm expectations, and be careful what situation you get into.

Hookers are in it for the "long term" and want to preserve their client base. Sugars are usually not "professional" and have nothing to fear as far as reprisals. She knew you were in a foreign country and wouldn't do anything anyway. If they ask for money up front as an SB they are Pros or scammers. Tough lesson but we have all been there if we have done this game long enough.

**SushiLover69** · 04-28-15 22:28

I want to thank Hollywood Guy for his 5-step plan and generous advice. Wish I had followed it before meeting this SB. Experience is an expensive teacher. I am brand new to the sugar bowl. Tried SA in Japan and got completely fleeced by a Taiwanese girl on my second date. She is 31 years old, slim, attractive. She told me she was just looking for a lover. I am 41, so it was somewhat believable. We had dinner the first date and she seemed very sweet. The second date after dinner she told me again she was feeling lonely, and just wanted companionship. We visited a hotel. Long story short, she hit me up for money after we got into the room, asked me for payment before the deed, which I foolishly paid, and then she told me that was just for cuddling, and asked for more for sex. I stared at her in disbelief. This sweet girl I had spent a few hours talking to was a total con artist. I asked for my money back. She refused, and I considered my options. Ugly situation. I told her to get out, and barely managed to keep it together. I have never been taken like that before, and I have probably banged 200+ hookers in my life.

Hopefully my experience will help someone out there. Confirm expectations, and be careful what situation you get into.

**Copper Fool** · 04-28-15 19:43

If I was laying out that kind of money, the woman would be treating me like a full time job.

Originally Posted by GuyWoodson [View Original Post]

If I had that kind of disposable income -- I would NOT be using AM!! The guy should be reading this forum!

**MyHobby** · 04-28-15 17:16

Originally Posted by Smokarz_XO [View Original Post]

Finally the weather is getting warmer up here in the Northeast and I am trying to come out to the bowl to play again. And especially try to put Hollywood's excellent guide to good use.

I signed up for a 3 day trial period with SD4 M with a $5 prepaid card. We all know this 3 day period runs for about a month after you signed up and they failed to charged your CC.

So I did a quick search for babies between 18-40 within 50 mile radius of my zip code and I've found less than 50 babies that signed up in the past 2 week.

What happened to SD4 M? Are they doing that bad these days? Babies don't sign up to that site anymore?

I am going to sign up for SA next, if I can't find anything on SD4 M.

I think we fish in the same pond and I've always found SA to have a better selection even tho in the past I've met some gems on SD4 ME.

**JeffpPSeet** · 04-28-15 16:53

Originally Posted by AzMagic [View Original Post]

I am in Hartford area.

Sent you a pm, Hartford area, please check your inbox. I am in CT once or twice a week.

**Member #5055** · 04-28-15 15:10

If I had that kind of disposable income -- I would NOT be using AM!! The guy should be reading this forum!

Originally Posted by DogSun [View Original Post]

http://www.cleveland.com/court-justi...s_pimp_tr.html

**DogSun** · 04-28-15 14:41

http://www.cleveland.com/court-justi...s_pimp_tr.html

**Mike7794** · 04-28-15 05:37

I keep it honest, but have my pics on private.

**Member #5144** · 04-27-15 22:20

I have real pics -- I am married -- but have them on p rivate. I used to only email them upon request, but found; many women would not bother to take that extra step just to make sure I was not fugly.

In my case, I live in a small town, so anything here would have to be duriing business hours with SB hosting.

I also travel to major cities monthly and am targeting women there too.

In general I made it clear I am not looking to date. No dinners out on the town, spending the day together -- just NSA fun if the chemistry is right, which I ahve been able to establish simply by message / email adn maybe a phone call.

They know what I want and those willing to go for such a casual arrangement reply. Those looking for a long term thing and allowance don't contact me and I don't bother selling something to them they are not in the market for.

**FTP1999** · 04-27-15 20:28

I am probably going to renew my SA membership because. Whatever. TMI.

What are some good tips for a good profile?

I know the obvious:

Don't use a real pic.

I have been reading back and I don't see a recent discussion on this.

**Member #5570** · 04-27-15 14:32

Finally the weather is getting warmer up here in the Northeast and I am trying to come out to the bowl to play again. And especially try to put Hollywood's excellent guide to good use.

I signed up for a 3 day trial period with SD4 M with a $5 prepaid card. We all know this 3 day period runs for about a month after you signed up and they failed to charged your CC.

So I did a quick search for babies between 18-40 within 50 mile radius of my zip code and I've found less than 50 babies that signed up in the past 2 week.

What happened to SD4 M? Are they doing that bad these days? Babies don't sign up to that site anymore?

I am going to sign up for SA next, if I can't find anything on SD4 M.