"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[First Half]

At this point I think for me and a lot of guys, is we do want a good provider, but one that we control and maybe even have exclusively.

I won't argue with that, but I sort of get the feeling that control you believe you have may be an illusion. You'd be hard pressed to convince me you have more control of the outcome with a young SB than I do with an experienced provider, but I get what you mean.

To get all that is a lot of fucking work. Like a job where you get paid straight commission. Sometimes you make bank and sometimes you make nothing. And doing it married. I don't even want to think about it. (and dont have to). Props to the guys that do.

Now THIS I understand. I work on commission so I understand the "eat what I catch" mentality.

Thanks for enlightening me.

FH.

[Mfp79]

I started putting them into evernote, so I have their info on any device I happen to have with me and wherever I am.

Nice. I'm using google sheets so it's available from wherever too.

[FredMoore]

Reaching the end I believe. The work and risk having a highly tuned SO is getting too stressful. Maybe later things will settle down but it has been a long time since I had a really rewarding SB experience. These 18 to 21 yr old college girls ironically, while considering sex as a casual exercise, are getting difficult to "nail " down complaining that they "aren't Hos" . Since I can't take them out and show them a good time I do need "Ho" -like activity. But I like the low volume version and real Pros are not that. Plus I don't want the risk of Uncle taking me down.

Got my 40+ yr old and 23 yr old in the FC but fully wrapped just doesn't do it for me. I like the reentry for rounds 2,3,and 4 and reapplying isn't feasible. The risk is not worth the reward I'm afraid. I've been chatting up a load of college girls and while initially interested flake pretty quickly when competition sets in. I did great when I could wine and dine them first, before showing them the big dog.

Age is a factor. Some of these girls say they are getting 20-30 yr olds paying them allowances. What's up with that? These boys need to be scoring free pussy, or if they are not what the heck is wrong with them? If you have to buy pussy at 30 you are in for a long haul.

[HollywoodGuy]

Because I agree. I have quite a bit of flexibility in my schedule, but this shit looks like fucking work! It just seems easier to find a provider or two I really like than to deal with all the young, impressionable chicks with daddy issues on SA.

My hat's off to you guys that have the time and patience for it all.

I think the guys here (me for sure) must like all the mind games or why would we do it? I would say my biggest problem would be in having a so called normal relationship or a good provider. Neither one can really work. At this point I think for me and a lot of guys, is we do want a good provider, but one that we control and maybe even have exclusively. And role play thats not really playin. To get all that is a lot of fucking work. Like a job where you get paid straight commission. Sometimes you make bank and sometimes you make nothing. And doing it married. I dont even want to think about it. (and dont have to). Props to the guys that do.

[First Half]

Because I agree. I have quite a bit of flexibility in my schedule, but this shit looks like fucking work! It just seems easier to find a provider or two I really like than to deal with all the young, impressionable chicks with daddy issues on SA.

My hat's off to you guys that have the time and patience for it all.

I am in awe of your system. I gave SA a shot for two months and it drove me batshit. ESPECIALLY with the pre 20 yos. I finally dumped it and started trolling other.

Venues. I came across ONE SB who is a good match for me. I couldn't manage two (with a wife, kids and 60 hr job) if my life depended on it. Of course there.

Are others but this one is my go-to fuck.

You make it look easy, but I know there has to be a lot of time and work involved. I don't have the time, so I will have to continue to read your exploits and marvel.

[RagTop66]

I am in awe of your system. I gave SA a shot for two months and it drove me batshit. ESPECIALLY with the pre 20 yos. I finally dumped it and started trolling other.

Venues. I came across ONE SB who is a good match for me. I couldn't manage two (with a wife, kids and 60 hr job) if my life depended on it. Of course there.

Are others but this one is my go-to fuck.

You make it look easy, but I know there has to be a lot of time and work involved. I don't have the time, so I will have to continue to read your exploits and marvel.

[Member #5570]

I am in Hartford area.

You must be the one flagging all my CL ads. LOL.

I am also in Hartford.

[DanteMoravil]

Also, I mentioned this previously, but I'm using a spreadsheet to keep track of the POTs because there's so damn many of them. If you're in my area and want to compare notes, let me know and I can share it with you.

I started putting them into evernote, so I have their info on any device I happen to have with me and wherever I am.

I've had several meet and greets, about 10 no shows. I have been to FC with 2 so far, one of those 2 I've seen every week for past several weeks. 25 yrs, long dark hair, single mom, 7's across the board. The older women I have seen in the past have a better handle on pleasing me. Probably keep for month or 2 as I look for a 8-10.

[HollywoodGuy]

Todays POTS.

Girl 1 - 19 years 4'11" 92 lbs. Traced the pic to her BP ad. But that body deserves a spin for a $. She uses the same pic on her SA profile.

Girl 2 - 18 years 5'6" 115 lbs? Non pro bi girl. Totally real. Skittish but too hot to ignore for a $. Says she is on board.

Girl 3 - is another pic of girl 2.

Girl 4 - 19 5'2" 120 lbs? Student. Says she will take the train 60 miles to me. Totally on board.

Girl 5 - 19 5'2" still an unknown at this point.

Girl 6 - 31 5'1" tiny MILF. Totally on board.

[AzMagic]

I should have mentioned. I'm in the Boston area.

I am in Hartford area.

[Mfp79]

Also, I mentioned this previously, but I'm using a spreadsheet to keep track of the POTs because there's so damn many of them. If you're in my area and want to compare notes, let me know and I can share it with you.

I should have mentioned. I'm in the Boston area.

[HollywoodGuy]

Why do POTS all have to message at once?

Got like four that HMU already today.

Trying to see two of them.

So far all four of them went mia. These girls are weird sometimes. Started talking to a few others. This shit is discouraging me today.

[FotoGuy1970]

Agreed. Make the request via email. If they respond by refusing, or fail to respond at all, just contact your cc company to challenge the charge. If you have an email showing denial of service after you made payment, most cc companies will reverse the charge.

Of course if you have an SO and don't want a letter from your cc company stating that the dispute was resolved, you can either change your settings to all online only communication with your cc company.

As for the potential AG/DA referral, I'd probably recommend against that. More so because the customer service rep who is reviewing your emails is probably an outsourced peon, who probably works for a third party contractor hired by SA that is located in Asia, or Latin America. They probably won't care and you probably don't want your message including a statement that you were trying to purchase services from a website that was engaging in activity that you yourself recognize might be considered questionable.

I already tried that, but SA is using their "no refunds" stance to screw me over. I'm disputing the charge with my CC company.

[HollywoodGuy]

Why do POTS all have to message at once?

Got like four that HMU already today.

Trying to see two of them.

[IluvSmellyFish]

Agreed. Make the request via email. If they respond by refusing, or fail to respond at all, just contact your cc company to challenge the charge. If you have an email showing denial of service after you made payment, most cc companies will reverse the charge.

Of course if you have an SO and don't want a letter from your cc company stating that the dispute was resolved, you can either change your settings to all online only communication with your cc company.

As for the potential AG/DA referral, I'd probably recommend against that. More so because the customer service rep who is reviewing your emails is probably an outsourced peon, who probably works for a third party contractor hired by SA that is located in Asia, or Latin America. They probably won't care and you probably don't want your message including a statement that you were trying to purchase services from a website that was engaging in activity that you yourself recognize might be considered questionable.

I would demand my money back! You should point out are steeling your money! You can also point out that there are no shortage of AG's / DAs out there that are more than interested in any questionable biz practices or illegal doings they specifically may be involved with!

Demand your month or your money back immediately, you could also have your credit card push them.