Massage Parlor Reports

[Member #4721]

So for the past year, I have been going at least once a month to Lilys, and getting a massage from Judy. Always been nice teasing, with self finish while she rubs the thighs.

So I turned my friend on to Lilys, and he has been going for about 3 months now as well, with the same result.

Last month my friend said hes not going back the reasoning was that, after his massage he tipped $10 and then as he was leaving a different lady rushed up to him yelling that the tip was "to low", and that he needed to pay more. Now I would have prob got into it with this lady but my friend just said he had more money in the car and she screamed "Well go get it". LMAO he went to his car and split.

I continued to go with no problem, I usually tip $15-20 cause I like the massage. Anyway I always book my appointments via text message, the last appointment went fine, but when I got there Judy was busy so the lady asked me if the new girl was ok? Can't remeber her name, maybe Ling.

I said fine, and same decent massage (though no feet), teasing, and put my hand on my member on the flip for self service, while she moaned as I stroked. I tipped $20 like always and went on my way. That was last month!

Cut to today when I try and make a massage appointment: (here is the text convo):

Me: Is judy there today?

Lilys: Yes,

Lilys: What time you need?!

Me: Do you have any times available after 6 pm for Judy? 1 hour massage.

Lilys: Yes, & we are now $48/ hr, but she doesn't want to work on you anymore unless you start giving a decent tip. She works hard & does a good job. Your choice.

Me: I gave $20 tip last time. Thats ridiculous, I will take my business elsewhere if this is how customers are treated at your place.

Lilys: then Judy will be fired. She says you never tip. She is lying or doesn't want to work on you. Sorry please come in & see new girl.

Lilys: Sorry again.

Haha I was confused and at work so really didn't know how to respond to that. So I didn't respond.

3 minutes later I get another text:

Lilys: She was terrible, I want cry. I am sorry for you & me!!

What is going on. LOL. After grading my papers, I heard another notification and 15 minutes after the above text they sent me this:

Lilys: Thanks you tell me these!

Does anyone want to theorize what the hell just happened?! They don't know me and the guy I mentioned are friends so I don't think its that. She didn't get me confused with another guy cause she described me perfectly via text.

Do you think that maybe she was pissed I went with the new girl that one time, or that the "house" is just trying to push one of their newer girls to some clients? I think its funny they think tips are required, and yell at people that don't tip enough? I think $20 is a fair tip. By the time I got off work they were closed I am not trying to get anyone fired.

Crazy times.

-Mike-.

From my experience with Judy, . 2 is an appropriate tip. If I remember, no ball rubbing. Just Diy while she was somewhere in the ballpark. I'd been in there and in several AMPs where I here all out catfights. My guess here is that at Lily's is that whoever does the scheduling does fewer massages, if any, so they probably get a tip-out like cooks and bar-backs. Or maybe they pool tips and split them evenly. Sounds like Judy was pocketing your tips and bitching at the schedule person you werent tipping. I'd imagine it wasnt Judy who refused you due to tips, but the scheduler who was sick ofnyou not tipping. Ultimately, you were believed over Judy because she would have shot you down long ago, or fave crappier service and youd had atopped asking for her. So much psychology in this game, yo!

[BottomsUp2]

I may be visiting the area soon. Does anyone have any info on this ad? I may have overlooked reviews. I saw A Ladies Touch when I googled the number. I never saw a name. A post or PM is fine. Thanks.

http://stlouis.backpage.com/Therapeu...trokes/5880985

[Fbm014]

They're probably providing extra services right before they leave so they can travel with some extra cash.

I think when they say things like Went to California and she is on vacation it really means we fired her. Had a good one at a AMP earlier this year. Things were posted online and the next time I scheduled they said she was out with a sick child. The next 2 times she was on vacation. Finally they told me they had to let her go. I knew from the 1st attempt she was likely fired.

[Mikecl2011]

So for the past year, I have been going at least once a month to Lilys, and getting a massage from Judy. Always been nice teasing, with self finish while she rubs the thighs.

So I turned my friend on to Lilys, and he has been going for about 3 months now as well, with the same result.

Last month my friend said hes not going back the reasoning was that, after his massage he tipped $10 and then as he was leaving a different lady rushed up to him yelling that the tip was "to low", and that he needed to pay more. Now I would have prob got into it with this lady but my friend just said he had more money in the car and she screamed "Well go get it". LMAO he went to his car and split.

I continued to go with no problem, I usually tip $15-20 cause I like the massage. Anyway I always book my appointments via text message, the last appointment went fine, but when I got there Judy was busy so the lady asked me if the new girl was ok? Can't remeber her name, maybe Ling.

I said fine, and same decent massage (though no feet), teasing, and put my hand on my member on the flip for self service, while she moaned as I stroked. I tipped $20 like always and went on my way. That was last month!

Cut to today when I try and make a massage appointment: (here is the text convo):

Me: Is judy there today?

Lilys: Yes,

Lilys: What time you need?!

Me: Do you have any times available after 6 pm for Judy? 1 hour massage.

Lilys: Yes, & we are now $48/ hr, but she doesn't want to work on you anymore unless you start giving a decent tip. She works hard & does a good job. Your choice.

Me: I gave $20 tip last time. Thats ridiculous, I will take my business elsewhere if this is how customers are treated at your place.

Lilys: then Judy will be fired. She says you never tip. She is lying or doesn't want to work on you. Sorry please come in & see new girl.

Lilys: Sorry again.

Haha I was confused and at work so really didn't know how to respond to that. So I didn't respond.

3 minutes later I get another text:

Lilys: She was terrible, I want cry. I am sorry for you & me!!

What is going on. LOL. After grading my papers, I heard another notification and 15 minutes after the above text they sent me this:

Lilys: Thanks you tell me these!

Does anyone want to theorize what the hell just happened?! They don't know me and the guy I mentioned are friends so I don't think its that. She didn't get me confused with another guy cause she described me perfectly via text.

Do you think that maybe she was pissed I went with the new girl that one time, or that the "house" is just trying to push one of their newer girls to some clients? I think its funny they think tips are required, and yell at people that don't tip enough? I think $20 is a fair tip. By the time I got off work they were closed I am not trying to get anyone fired.

Crazy times.

-Mike-.

[ChinnaSwami]

They're probably providing extra services right before they leave so they can travel with some extra cash.

Maybe true. Whenever I go to California I try to get a massage from AMPs and almost 90% of them provide extras. They cooperate a lot and specially I like Japanese. Japanese+Sauna+Massage in California is the best combo I have ever had.

[Chet Font]

Simple math in a supply / demand world, buddy. It establishes the floor and ceiling for standard pay. Protects everyone involved. Place that charges $45, the therapist is probably working almos totally from tips, so she deserves that. 55 tip for a great HE. If a place is charging $75 for an hour, the therapist is probably getting paid better by the house, so a. 25 tip evens the game for everyone, and keeps everyone happy and things predictable. That's asian massage business 101, partner. Keep the market even across the board. Rhese ladies, who do not speak english, love predictability.

Three years ago, one of the girls at Evergreen told me she got $40 for 90 minutes and the house got $30.

At another place, the girl said she got 40% plus tips.

[Stl69]

Hey guys, I'm new to the form. Does anyone know a good place around the St Charles area, that offers a good massage with a HE at a reasonable price.

Wow, not a great user name you've selected. Do your research and search past posts before asking a bunch of questions.

[FBIMan21]

Hey guys, I'm new to the form. Does anyone know a good place around the St Charles area, that offers a good massage with a HE at a reasonable price.

[Member #4721]

So the first 2 are the actual tip and the last 3 are the total even though not everyone charges the same? Doesn't make much sense. You should have just put the tip amount on all of them.

Simple math in a supply / demand world, buddy. It establishes the floor and ceiling for standard pay. Protects everyone involved. Place that charges $45, the therapist is probably working almos totally from tips, so she deserves that. 55 tip for a great HE. If a place is charging $75 for an hour, the therapist is probably getting paid better by the house, so a. 25 tip evens the game for everyone, and keeps everyone happy and things predictable. That's asian massage business 101, partner. Keep the market even across the board. Rhese ladies, who do not speak english, love predictability.

[Chet Font]

I believe tracfone is the only carrier that doesn't require registration.

You can buy different phones for the service and some come with triple minutes for the life of the phone.

Tracfone is good because you can change your phone number whenever you want for free. It only takes about 5 minutes to change it.

[Chet Font]

I've noticed when things get posted here about the AMP's the gal discussed goes to California. At least that's what they tell me when I ask for them. They tend to disappear.

They're probably providing extra services right before they leave so they can travel with some extra cash.

[Stlffej]

15 tip. That's not going to do you, or the next guy much good. This is what should be standard:

No tease, all covered. No tip.

Grazing to erection, covered - . 1.

Grazing to erection, uncovered - . 2.

Teasing, uncovered, DIY - . 8 total, so tip depends on base rate.

Teasing, mechanical HE - $. 0 total.

Exceptional service. At least $. 2 total.

I tipped. 65 - double the standard rate for an unbelievable service I received a few weeks ago.

So the first 2 are the actual tip and the last 3 are the total even though not everyone charges the same? Doesn't make much sense. You should have just put the tip amount on all of them.

[Turbo Pwr]

There were rumors a few years ago she did, but I've seen her a couple times the last year or so. I'm doubting the rumors or maybe just no longer goes that extra mile.

I can tell you that at one point in the 2008 or 2009 back when she lived off of Manchester behind the Arby's I did get FS. A few years later, when she moved to olive and 40 I tried and I got the Constant "How Much You Got? The last time I saw her, Just a Handshake. She IMHO is a constant upsell and not all that much fun.

Hope this helps.

TP.

[Member #4721]

At Richtor: Didn't get to read this, but I can imagine what it was about.

If my assumptions are correct, I will continue to convey the facts.

As far as metropolitan areas across the USA Goes, St. Louis is really one of the most difficult environments for good service. If you tip below the standard, it discourages good service for the next guy, as well as yourself. This is an extremely important function of the hobby here not to take lightly.

As I've said a million times. Tip your ladies what the service is worth, and let them see that more is always on the table in the future.

If you want to tip. 15, better off getting a Bud and some wings at Hooters. Please take this as a helpful tip: You 8 posts indicates a still-learning situation. We were all there.

[Richter]

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