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  1. #9250
    Quote Originally Posted by Roadrally2  [View Original Post]
    Great advice I agree with everything you said.

    Girls love to touch the penis. Make it happen. Never discuss explicit terms of exchange or agreement.

    It's illegal if you make an exchange or deal before it happens.

    If two people just like each other then have sex then the guys gives girl a thank you gift that's 100% allowed.

    Stay safe.
    What if you talk price after the deed is done are you still breaking the law? I understand no LE will do the deed but between you and a provider is it still illigel to discuss money after wards.

  2. #9249
    Quote Originally Posted by FoolmeOnce78  [View Original Post]
    LOL, About my username. When I first started mongering here on the island one of my first experience was a bait and switch. That led me to this site, so I created this username to remind of that experience. I vowed to do more research on providers before I meet them. I know this isn't a foolproof solution, but it helps. I love this forum!
    I see. I've encountered AMP girls who weren't the one in the pic a number of times. I go with it if I can (eg I think she's doable or has some outstanding asset), but leave if she's just too far south and I did not feel like paying for that.

  3. #9248
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkman808  [View Original Post]
    Here's another story to compliment the "bust" story I told a while back.

    Years ago, horny as hell and scanning BP ads one night after work. Fond an ad with pic of hot white girl, all info sounded great. Details of price was in ad. So my call was simply an instant check to see if we "could hook up right now?

    "Yes. ".

    "I can be there in 20 minutes".

    "Good call me when you get to (place name) and I'll tell you where to park. ".

    I drive to the spot, call, then she "talks me into" a place to park. It's near university, a dive 2 story walk up. I HATE this kind of location. It's after midnight, dark, I'm not familiar with the area, parking stall is tiny Chinese spot for my mid-sized car. Still on the phone she "guides me in" upstairs into this funky place. A 1 bedroom unit, old, looks like nobody is living in it, just a few pieces of furniture, bare minimum.

    Chick is fucking hot, centerfold material. Nice, perfect everything. But my guard is still up. Haven't said anything other than a few 'hellos' and minor pleasantries.

    She apologizes for room. But says "This place is kinda temporary for me. ".

    "No worries" I reply. And it's obvious we are both a little uptight and nervous. But I get the impression she's kinda new at this.

    She giggles a little and says straight at me.

    "Are you a cop?

    "No, are you?

    Laughs, "No! No way. ".

    "Nervous?

    "Yea, you look so clean cut and all. Like a cop. ".

    "Look, I'm not a cop, I promise. ".

    "But guys say anything. You could be lying. ".

    "You too. But I'm just as worried as you are, so I guess we're even right?

    "Maybe" and I see this is going nowhere. I'm ready to walk out because she's fidgeting so much and so obviously nervous.

    So then my mongering instincts kick in and I remember something I read a long time ago. I'm here to fuck. If she is here to bust me, she has to find a reason I'm doing something illegal first, before the cops rush in, right? So I go into action.

    She's very nervous, and almost trembling. I think I might actually be this girls's first date. Maybe, maybe not.

    I step towards her, put one hand on her waist softly, the other on her face, tip her head up and move my head closer to hers. I can almost feel her heart beating. I slowly move my mouth close to her ear and whisper quietly, "I came here to play with you and have fun. You're hot. I can't wait any longer. ".

    I then turn her head with one hand and give her a LFK square on the lips. She gasps, almost in relief.

    Still not absolutely certain, I step back a little away from her and look at her head toe again. I then drop my pants right in front of her, then pull out my now 'raging hard on' and grab one of her hands and put it directly on my cock while I also reach out and fondle her breast. She moans and I can feel her hand on my cock now grasping me harder on her own.

    "Yea!" she says.

    "Okay? Are you ready now? I'm ready for you. " I whisper back to her.

    "Yea. ".

    This ended up being one of the hottest, most genuine spontaneously great fucks of my life. Man was she horny. I suspect she was a UofH girl, desperate for cash, who knew enough that her great looks were worth some serious coin. The dump she was in must have been some friends joint they just moved out of or something. When we were done, I used the toilet and she jumped out of bed and said "Don't flush it! They'll hear it!" I didn't ask, but clearly she didn't want anyone to know we were in there. Funny thing is, we fucked like dinosaurs. I think everyone in kaimuki knew what was going on. Especially the neighbors. Go figure.

    The rule? Skip the convo, no words about sex or money. Go directly for the LE check if you have doubts, touch her where it counts and get her to touch you at the same time. Important. Be gentle about it, play coy and sensual. One, a real provider will appreciate that and two, it will set the tone for the rest of your time with her.

    But if she's a cop, she'll pull away immediately like, "Whoa, not that!" If she's a real provider, she'll be game for playing and is used to touching cocks. But if not, she will instinctively pull away from touching you or even be near you.

    If that's the case, get the fuck out. No words. Don't look back. No I'm sorry's, just fucking leave. Repeat, do not stop to talk anymore just get out and quietly. Don't make a scene. Don't be mad or ugly, just get the fuck out.

    You don't have to actually "whip it out" but simply guiding her hand to your crotch so that there is an unequivocable message that you are sending and she is receiving. Cannot overstate that any undercover cop will hesitate to actually let the 'touch' go through and will pull away before she allows herself to cross the line. The simultaneous and mutual touch is a must. If she stops, YOU STOP.

    Get it? Got it? Good?

    Stay safe boys.
    Great advice I agree with everything you said.

    Girls love to touch the penis. Make it happen. Never discuss explicit terms of exchange or agreement.

    It's illegal if you make an exchange or deal before it happens.

    If two people just like each other then have sex then the guys gives girl a thank you gift that's 100% allowed.

    Stay safe.

  4. #9247
    Quote Originally Posted by HMobius  [View Original Post]
    I do not have current information, but some time ago a girl from a different sector (non AMP) of the mongering world told me certain girls were under an agreement to assist HPD to the effect of making busts.

    In your girl's case, it may simply be that she wants your business and let you know she was again available. Depending what kind of provider she is and your situation, it may be possible to set up a way for you to safely meet her in case your concerns turn out to be validated.

    No offense, but your username is somewhat alarming with respect to this topic.
    LOL, About my username. When I first started mongering here on the island one of my first experience was a bait and switch. That led me to this site, so I created this username to remind of that experience. I vowed to do more research on providers before I meet them. I know this isn't a foolproof solution, but it helps. I love this forum!

  5. #9246

    Texted

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenwood808  [View Original Post]
    So has anyone tried her since she left rose? Was wondering if she was for real because she looks so damn hot. I would pay the extra but can't host. Hope she gets incall soon. If she start incall I definitely go sample and report back.
    I texted her that it was my opinion that she is overreaching for too much, too soon. No ratings or rep yet and not hosting? She'd only be worth that to meif she had a long string of stellar ratings. IMO, she should work herself up from the 300 level. If she gets good reviews, her pictures certainly suggest she could justify nudging upward. Just my opinion. Maybe she'll get all the clients she wants even at that level.

  6. #9245

    Ashley

    Has anyone tried Ashley italian? How was she?

  7. #9244

    LE check or test?

    Quote Originally Posted by Macko69  [View Original Post]
    In order for prosecutors to get a conviction, they need to prove that you intended to exchange money for sex. When they bait you, they use tricks to get you to talk about money and sex. Darkman808 had a great post about his bust in post #9163 on this thread. His situation is a little different because he was visiting someone he hadn't seen before, but the elements still apply.

    If you're visiting a provider you've seen before, don't discuss sex at all. It should already be understood what you're there for. Let the girl take the lead. If she asks you something like, "What do you want to do?" Do not answer anything having to do with sex. Just be vague. "I don't know. What do YOU want to do?" would be a good answer. If she persists with the question and she doesn't bring up sex first, you should get up and leave. If she's working as an informant, she's generally not supposed to bring up sex first because you could likely use "entrapment" as your defense, so they'll try to get you to talk about it first.

    Also, if it's a provider you've seen before, there should be no reason to talk about money. Since you've visited before, there should already be an understanding as to how much you're going to pay. If she tries to get you to talk about money, like how much for what acts, probably best to leave.

    Also be aware that even if you follow my advice, that's not a guarantee that you'll never get arrested. Some cops are assholes, and even if they know they don't have enough evidence to get a conviction later, they might just bust you anyway and let the courts sort it out.
    Here's another story to compliment the "bust" story I told a while back.

    Years ago, horny as hell and scanning BP ads one night after work. Fond an ad with pic of hot white girl, all info sounded great. Details of price was in ad. So my call was simply an instant check to see if we "could hook up right now?

    "Yes. ".

    "I can be there in 20 minutes".

    "Good call me when you get to (place name) and I'll tell you where to park. ".

    I drive to the spot, call, then she "talks me into" a place to park. It's near university, a dive 2 story walk up. I HATE this kind of location. It's after midnight, dark, I'm not familiar with the area, parking stall is tiny Chinese spot for my mid-sized car. Still on the phone she "guides me in" upstairs into this funky place. A 1 bedroom unit, old, looks like nobody is living in it, just a few pieces of furniture, bare minimum.

    Chick is fucking hot, centerfold material. Nice, perfect everything. But my guard is still up. Haven't said anything other than a few 'hellos' and minor pleasantries.

    She apologizes for room. But says "This place is kinda temporary for me. ".

    "No worries" I reply. And it's obvious we are both a little uptight and nervous. But I get the impression she's kinda new at this.

    She giggles a little and says straight at me.

    "Are you a cop?

    "No, are you?

    Laughs, "No! No way. ".

    "Nervous?

    "Yea, you look so clean cut and all. Like a cop. ".

    "Look, I'm not a cop, I promise. ".

    "But guys say anything. You could be lying. ".

    "You too. But I'm just as worried as you are, so I guess we're even right?

    "Maybe" and I see this is going nowhere. I'm ready to walk out because she's fidgeting so much and so obviously nervous.

    So then my mongering instincts kick in and I remember something I read a long time ago. I'm here to fuck. If she is here to bust me, she has to find a reason I'm doing something illegal first, before the cops rush in, right? So I go into action.

    She's very nervous, and almost trembling. I think I might actually be this girls's first date. Maybe, maybe not.

    I step towards her, put one hand on her waist softly, the other on her face, tip her head up and move my head closer to hers. I can almost feel her heart beating. I slowly move my mouth close to her ear and whisper quietly, "I came here to play with you and have fun. You're hot. I can't wait any longer. ".

    I then turn her head with one hand and give her a LFK square on the lips. She gasps, almost in relief.

    Still not absolutely certain, I step back a little away from her and look at her head toe again. I then drop my pants right in front of her, then pull out my now 'raging hard on' and grab one of her hands and put it directly on my cock while I also reach out and fondle her breast. She moans and I can feel her hand on my cock now grasping me harder on her own.

    "Yea!" she says.

    "Okay? Are you ready now? I'm ready for you. " I whisper back to her.

    "Yea. ".

    This ended up being one of the hottest, most genuine spontaneously great fucks of my life. Man was she horny. I suspect she was a UofH girl, desperate for cash, who knew enough that her great looks were worth some serious coin. The dump she was in must have been some friends joint they just moved out of or something. When we were done, I used the toilet and she jumped out of bed and said "Don't flush it! They'll hear it!" I didn't ask, but clearly she didn't want anyone to know we were in there. Funny thing is, we fucked like dinosaurs. I think everyone in kaimuki knew what was going on. Especially the neighbors. Go figure.

    The rule? Skip the convo, no words about sex or money. Go directly for the LE check if you have doubts, touch her where it counts and get her to touch you at the same time. Important. Be gentle about it, play coy and sensual. One, a real provider will appreciate that and two, it will set the tone for the rest of your time with her.

    But if she's a cop, she'll pull away immediately like, "Whoa, not that!" If she's a real provider, she'll be game for playing and is used to touching cocks. But if not, she will instinctively pull away from touching you or even be near you.

    If that's the case, get the fuck out. No words. Don't look back. No I'm sorry's, just fucking leave. Repeat, do not stop to talk anymore just get out and quietly. Don't make a scene. Don't be mad or ugly, just get the fuck out.

    You don't have to actually "whip it out" but simply guiding her hand to your crotch so that there is an unequivocable message that you are sending and she is receiving. Cannot overstate that any undercover cop will hesitate to actually let the 'touch' go through and will pull away before she allows herself to cross the line. The simultaneous and mutual touch is a must. If she stops, YOU STOP.

    Get it? Got it? Good?

    Stay safe boys.

  8. #9243
    Quote Originally Posted by IslandBoy0071  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone try her? How was service?
    Go to the Yokohama thread and search for Daisy.

  9. #9242
    Quote Originally Posted by Macko69  [View Original Post]
    Some cops are assholes, and even if they know they don't have enough evidence to get a conviction later, they might just bust you anyway and let the courts sort it out.
    Exactly. It doesn't matter to them if it turns out you're not guilty, and they have no qualms about making things difficult for you.

    Like Tubbs once told Crockett on the original Miami Vice, "We just catch 'em, we don't cook 'em".

  10. #9241

    Bait

    Quote Originally Posted by FoolmeOnce78  [View Original Post]
    I have serious question. I know a provider who was recently arrested. And a few days later she hit me up to come see her. I'm hesitant because I've heard talk of HPD using legit providers as bait. Is this true and should I pass. If this topic is forbidden In this forum I apologize.
    In order for prosecutors to get a conviction, they need to prove that you intended to exchange money for sex. When they bait you, they use tricks to get you to talk about money and sex. Darkman808 had a great post about his bust in post #9163 on this thread. His situation is a little different because he was visiting someone he hadn't seen before, but the elements still apply.

    If you're visiting a provider you've seen before, don't discuss sex at all. It should already be understood what you're there for. Let the girl take the lead. If she asks you something like, "What do you want to do?" Do not answer anything having to do with sex. Just be vague. "I don't know. What do YOU want to do?" would be a good answer. If she persists with the question and she doesn't bring up sex first, you should get up and leave. If she's working as an informant, she's generally not supposed to bring up sex first because you could likely use "entrapment" as your defense, so they'll try to get you to talk about it first.

    Also, if it's a provider you've seen before, there should be no reason to talk about money. Since you've visited before, there should already be an understanding as to how much you're going to pay. If she tries to get you to talk about money, like how much for what acts, probably best to leave.

    Also be aware that even if you follow my advice, that's not a guarantee that you'll never get arrested. Some cops are assholes, and even if they know they don't have enough evidence to get a conviction later, they might just bust you anyway and let the courts sort it out.

  11. #9240

    Akira

    Quote Originally Posted by Bikini  [View Original Post]
    She worked at MF as Kia. See post #2218. She is currently in Hilo. Can't wait for her to come back here.
    Has anyone try her? How was service?

  12. #9239
    Quote Originally Posted by FoolmeOnce78  [View Original Post]
    I have serious question. I know a provider who was recently arrested. And a few days later she hit me up to come see her. I'm hesitant because I've heard talk of HPD using legit providers as bait. Is this true and should I pass. If this topic is forbidden In this forum I apologize.
    I do not have current information, but some time ago a girl from a different sector (non AMP) of the mongering world told me certain girls were under an agreement to assist HPD to the effect of making busts.

    In your girl's case, it may simply be that she wants your business and let you know she was again available. Depending what kind of provider she is and your situation, it may be possible to set up a way for you to safely meet her in case your concerns turn out to be validated.

    No offense, but your username is somewhat alarming with respect to this topic.

  13. #9238

    Anyone toftt

    I know I should but this is clearly out of my price rage. If pics are real it may be worth it but. No matter. Not enough kala to partake. How you say. Delusional? What am I getten for that kind of dough?

    http://honolulu.backpage.com/BodyRub...-woman/5224549

  14. #9237

    Bait and Switch Cho

    Quote Originally Posted by Closetperv  [View Original Post]
    MS said girl in photo was ready when I called, set up an appointment for 30 min later but when I got there she said she was busy. Waited for 45 min, and she finally takes me up to a room and says she's ready, but lady in the room is 40 lbs heaver, and 30 yrs older. I decline. Classic bait and switch so I recommend you fellow mongers avoid.

    http://honolulu.backpage.com/FemaleE...please/5069239
    My experience with Cho was that she was the girl in the photo. She is very pleasant and sweet. She speaks no Japanse and looks Chinese. She is heavier than she appears in the photo but still has a solid body and breast a large and real. All covered some 69, no DFK. Nani was was nice and she obliged multiple positions and her orgasm seemed genuine.

    Very cute, tall, 5'5-6" perhaps 120 lbs.

    The problem is the mama setting up the appts by phone. She is working multiple locations and will overlap appointments. Happened to me once already. I'll give her one more chance.

  15. #9236

    Akira

    This is the picture that was posted at Yokohama. It is real:
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