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  1. #3213
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    Posts: 13
    According to the Providence Journal.

    "The investigation began in November, the affidavit said, after state police Detective Heather Donahue got information about two women being prostituted from 149 Ridge St. By a man nicknamed "Black. ".

    I absolutely agree there might've been a huge thing behind this that LE was after, but like someone said, blaming the rape victim, we shall not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus1250  [View Original Post]
    I didn't see anything about a multi month surveillance and planning operation but when Local police involve the State Police, the FBI and HLS there's got to be something going on that isn't obvious. What the heck is HLS doing in this? Potential terrorist? FBI for a minor solicitation involving 2 girls? They claimed they didn't know about the trafficking until they got to the girls and the guy came home. That just doesn't pass the smell test. They were looking for something bigger, expecting something bigger. More likely the girls turned to the police or were turned by the police. If they were not in on the whole thing then why would the police believe them right away? No arrest at the scene, no charges even if later dropped when they confirmed what was going on, just 'we rescued them' and caught the trafficker and drug dealer. 'The women are receiving treatment for the addiction and counseling. ' Pretty sweet if you're them, no charges, no questions, no nothing just treatment and counseling.

    They were expecting to catch the trafficker or they wouldn't have the FBI also it said that he's facing federal charges. They had to be looking into something big like a trafficking ring or major drug ring.

  2. #3212

    Problem with a burner is where do you hide it?

    This is key if you have a SO where to hide it? The best is at work but I'm retired. Car sounds good but where in the car? Spare tire, hope she doesn't get a flat. It's risky having a burner. Any other suggestions?

  3. #3211

    Amazing Leah

    I had a dream about Leah, and it was okay. I remember that she was a nice girl, okay body. Not as curvy as the pictures make it seem. I also remember that she is not as accommodating or GFE. Everything covered, $ for half. I will not repeat.

    http://providence.backpage.com/Femal...le-now/4631235

    424-xxx-5715.

  4. #3210

    Doesn't pass the smell test

    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus1250  [View Original Post]
    I didn't see anything about a multi month surveillance and planning operation but when Local police involve the State Police, the FBI and HLS there's got to be something going on that isn't obvious. What the heck is HLS doing in this? Potential terrorist? FBI for a minor solicitation involving 2 girls? They claimed they didn't know about the trafficking until they got to the girls and the guy came home. That just doesn't pass the smell test. They were looking for something bigger, expecting something bigger. More likely the girls turned to the police or were turned by the police. If they were not in on the whole thing then why would the police believe them right away? No arrest at the scene, no charges even if later dropped when they confirmed what was going on, just 'we rescued them' and caught the trafficker and drug dealer. 'The women are receiving treatment for the addiction and counseling. ' Pretty sweet if you're them, no charges, no questions, no nothing just treatment and counseling.

    They were expecting to catch the trafficker or they wouldn't have the FBI also it said that he's facing federal charges. They had to be looking into something big like a trafficking ring or major drug ring.
    HLS gets involved with any kind of human trafficking whether adults or minors. It's one of those roles that government agencies are responsible for that you would never think of. Just like a Secret Service is responsible for protecting the President but they also deal with credit card fraud and counterfeiting of money so HLS involvement is not surprising.

  5. #3209
    Quote Originally Posted by PSil  [View Original Post]
    On another tack, not to be a total jerk and completely insensitive to the plight of the women who are being trafficked to do this, because I would never knowingly get involved with them if I knew, I wonder about one possibility. If I were a woman who got "caught" in a LE sweep, and I realized that I could instantly change my status from being a criminal to a victim by claiming that I was being forced and coerced into this work, what would I do? I'm not suggesting that I know anything at all about these two women or that the story they told isn't completely accurate. But my cynical nature makes me wonder.
    Anything is possible, but it sounds a lot like what some people say about women who report being raped = "She probably didn't get raped she was a little drunk and agreed to have sex then in the morning when she sobered up she regretted having sex with the guy so she claimed she was raped". Yes that happens but it's a convenient excuse to absolve the rapist of any responsibility or feelings of guilt.

    I am pretty skeptical too but I think the scope of LE involvement in this case points to something a lot bigger than one guy running an illegal escort service. Unless the guy running the place was involved with terrorist organizations then something illegal was being done across state lines. A BP ad wouldn't get that much attention, they must have been following info from some other source. Traffiking women would get the feds attention.

  6. #3208

    Doesn't pass the smell test

    Quote Originally Posted by Mds03  [View Original Post]
    It's okay to be cynical, but in this case when both the FBI and HLS were involved with a multi month surveillance and planning operation, I believe it has to be legit.

    Problem with a burner is where do you hide it?
    I didn't see anything about a multi month surveillance and planning operation but when Local police involve the State Police, the FBI and HLS there's got to be something going on that isn't obvious. What the heck is HLS doing in this? Potential terrorist? FBI for a minor solicitation involving 2 girls? They claimed they didn't know about the trafficking until they got to the girls and the guy came home. That just doesn't pass the smell test. They were looking for something bigger, expecting something bigger. More likely the girls turned to the police or were turned by the police. If they were not in on the whole thing then why would the police believe them right away? No arrest at the scene, no charges even if later dropped when they confirmed what was going on, just 'we rescued them' and caught the trafficker and drug dealer. 'The women are receiving treatment for the addiction and counseling. ' Pretty sweet if you're them, no charges, no questions, no nothing just treatment and counseling.

    They were expecting to catch the trafficker or they wouldn't have the FBI also it said that he's facing federal charges. They had to be looking into something big like a trafficking ring or major drug ring.

  7. #3207

    RE: Ashley Rose

    This is the same Ashley that was flat chested and wacked out at cheeters back a few years ago. Looks like she has had some body work done and is now looking beter than ever. Don't know if I would be getting BBBJ seems she has some miles on her.

  8. #3206

    Exactly what I was thinking

    Quote Originally Posted by PSil  [View Original Post]
    You have just given everyone the importance of getting a monger phone that cannot be traced to you by the phone number when making calls to any provider. You may be careful or lucky enough to never get caught in a LE sting but you have no control over what happens to the phone records of any of these providers.

    On another tack, not to be a total jerk and completely insensitive to the plight of the women who are being trafficked to do this, because I would never knowingly get involved with them if I knew, I wonder about one possibility. If I were a woman who got "caught" in a LE sweep, and I realized that I could instantly change my status from being a criminal to a victim by claiming that I was being forced and coerced into this work, what would I do? I'm not suggesting that I know anything at all about these two women or that the story they told isn't completely accurate. But my cynical nature makes me wonder.
    Exactly what I was thinking P Sil. Who knows what the truth is, but I could easily see the girls talking to the other one night when the pimp is away saying "Hey I just had a great idea, if we get busted, lets say he threated our families, etc. Etc. Etc. ". Also are the girls really the "victims" here if they are having sex with guys to fund their drug habits?

  9. #3205
    Regular Member


    Posts: 13
    It's okay to be cynical, but in this case when both the FBI and HLS were involved with a multi month surveillance and planning operation, I believe it has to be legit.

    Problem with a burner is where do you hide it?

    Quote Originally Posted by PSil  [View Original Post]
    You have just given everyone the importance of getting a monger phone that cannot be traced to you by the phone number when making calls to any provider. You may be careful or lucky enough to never get caught in a LE sting but you have no control over what happens to the phone records of any of these providers.

    On another tack, not to be a total jerk and completely insensitive to the plight of the women who are being trafficked to do this, because I would never knowingly get involved with them if I knew, I wonder about one possibility. If I were a woman who got "caught" in a LE sweep, and I realized that I could instantly change my status from being a criminal to a victim by claiming that I was being forced and coerced into this work, what would I do? I'm not suggesting that I know anything at all about these two women or that the story they told isn't completely accurate. But my cynical nature makes me wonder.

  10. #3204

    Beth / Ashley

    Beth was Ashley back in September I think she changed her name to Beth around the end of November. I guess no one saw her as Ashley though because it was never mentioned here. I think Krystal was Nicole at some point also.

  11. #3203

    Doubt it

    Quote Originally Posted by NYMonger  [View Original Post]
    Really curious question from a noobie. Do you think LE will track down hundreds if not thousands of numbers, many of which are burner phones? And if they find you, start visiting and asking when you were there, what happened etc? And then match it up to what these women say? Its a good idea, but probably logistically very difficult.

    If that's happening, this is a huge investigation and going to absorb a ton of budget and dough.
    They brought in the FBI and home land security for this rescue. Grabbed a big headline about helping people. No glory in going after clients at this point. Something more was going on here. They claimed that the address was in ba BP ad and that got them the search warrant. Of course the address wasn't in an ad. Who brings the FBI and home land security in to arrest a couple of hookers?

  12. #3202

    Reviews

    Quote Originally Posted by CadillaCock  [View Original Post]
    No reviews because she posted first time today under RI. Looks like she came from Florida. Pics don't come up as some one else but some are BP Florida adds previous and she says new to RI?? But who knows till you actually go and blo!
    Valencia (same pictures) in FL has reviews. Just posted there on Tuesday. Nothing great 6-7. Probably not the same person, just the same pictures but I can't be certain.

  13. #3201
    Quote Originally Posted by NYMonger  [View Original Post]
    Really curious question from a noobie. Do you think LE will track down hundreds if not thousands of numbers, many of which are burner phones? And if they find you, start visiting and asking when you were there, what happened etc? And then match it up to what these women say? Its a good idea, but probably logistically very difficult.

    If that's happening, this is a huge investigation and going to absorb a ton of budget and dough.
    I highly doubt LE is going to do anything with any contacts, there is absolutely no crime in contacting someone and any texts are all hearsay.

    In terms of the situation, it sounds awful but I'm not sure it's as cut and dry as the media has portrayed it. I hope they both get whatever help they need though. If indeed there was coercion that guy deserves as much jail time as the law allows. I'd never knowingly visit someone in that situation but if you are in this hobby then chances are it's going to happen sooner or later. Something to think about.

  14. #3200

    No reviews

    Quote Originally Posted by Worgent6  [View Original Post]
    Oh Wow, are those sizzling pics real? I'm supposed to be giving up the hobby for a while CadiC, damn you. She got no TER reviews though.
    No reviews because she posted first time today under RI. Looks like she came from Florida. Pics don't come up as some one else but some are BP Florida adds previous and she says new to RI?? But who knows till you actually go and blo!

  15. #3199

    No, so tempting!

    Oh Wow, are those sizzling pics real? I'm supposed to be giving up the hobby for a while CadiC, damn you. She got no TER reviews though.

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