"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Traveling John #2]

There is a deal on this site with code SA2020. Can someone tell me how it works? Some of the girls are asking 200 and I would hate to pay that for just dinner.

[Member #5570]

I use an app called Pinger, you can use the app to send texts and make phone calls (100 min is $2) and use the website to just send texts. The downsides are that pics have to sent to an email address but they come directly into the app and I've learned that if you send more than 5000 messages the app stops working, so you have to get a new number and move all of your babes over to that number. I've used it more more than an year and I find it works better than google voice. Also on an iphone you can delete the app whenever you feel heat and when you download it again everything reappears and you've lost nothing.

Talkatone.

TextPlus.

WhatsApp.

There are others but those are probably the 3 biggest.

Pro-tip on the GV: I have multiple numbers. Most aren't linked to any real phone number (or real Google account) of mine.

Try the Hushed app. Economical and seems to be improving all the time.

I use a pay as you go burner phone, and keep all my m&gs and FC visits in there as well. I've been doing that for four years and it works like a charm.

Thanks all.

I am giving TextPlus a try now. It seems to work well, except that I have to delete all my messages everytime just in case someone opens the app by accident and see all those texts from the SBs.

With Google Voice, can I just put it in Spam folder, or Star folder rather than Inbox. So even if someone opens it, there are no texts to see.

Scott, maintaining a secondary physical phone seems like to much work to try to hide from the warden. I never really give it any thought. I am thinking an app on the phone is a bit easier.

[JZLizard]

Just to add to my last post regarding the need for highly disposable numbers, if you are a year-round FT SD that never uses the same number for anything but SBs, you may have totally different burner phone requirements than me.

For those that don't know, I'm "seasonal" as an SD in the sense I get on average 3-4 weeks per year for this, and that's if I'm lucky. That means I don't really need or want ongoing SB friendships that may lead to something later. I do all of my "work" far from home, I won't even contact an SB within a radius that's too close.

If things were different and I were not already in a relationship, I probably wouldn't care if I gave most of these girls my primary number. That's what I used to do. Hell, it actually worked well, because when you're mainstream dating, having women call and text you constantly is more of a good thing than a bad.

But, in my current mode, I'm in like Flynn, I gift for good performance and then I disappear. I have no time or interest to maintain ongoing relationships or conversations with any of these girls. I don't view them as bad people, but I view them all as superficial gold-diggers. My only responsibility is to plaster their face with my goo and move on to the next, rinse and repeat as much as possible until the next holiday.

It's a very small component of my overall life. I wish I were able to do it more often but I'm not.

But that's why I need disposable numbers, and that's why the Hushed app works well. Everyone's mileage varies though, to be sure.

[JZLizard]

All these apps let you block numbers, isn't that usually enough?

Depends on your specific needs. If all you need to do is block a single stalker or whatever, then yes, but she could post about you using your number to one web forum, and if you make contact with a POT in the future she may search for that number and find some negative feedback -- and using the same number for business deals and unpredictable women is almost sure to put you out of business down the road.

But that does not mean my needs are the same as everyone else's. I have an innate need for privacy-on-demand, meaning when I want to cut away from everyone, I like having the freedom to do it even if I don't exercise it enough. So I reserve my real number for family, girlfriend, a dozen or so of my best friends, etc. Everything else I like to be a disposable number, especially as more and more websites request phone numbers to send you a code to verify identity.

I have a history of women turning crazy on me that do not turn crazy on others. I remember in my mid 20's, I was banging a hot Asian early 30's MILF who owned a home, had a good job, etc. Well after a while I got bored and left her for a younger hotter one. She was one of the most even tempered women I knew, but she still went psycho-possessive-stalker on me. She had been in my social circles so one of my buddies and her knew each other well. I told him "go for it, it's over with us anyway" and he said "no way man, I don't want your sloppy seconds". Next thing you know they are banging each other and he was putty in her hands So much for not wanting my seconds. LOL. But, she seemed to give him his space, let him have his wife and his kids, etc. She didn't go psycho-possessive. He never had any problems with her following him around, stalking or lashing out. They kept it going for years and ended amicably.

So, I don't know what it is about me that draws out the crazies in them, but I like to cut and run when I say it's time, not when they do.

For that reason I have to have disposable phone numbers that do not give them an easy way to link me to business, home, or anything else.

[Showtime2020]

I have been using Google voice the past few years as the primary method to talk and txt with the babids. It seems that Google voice is now integrTed into Google hangouts, so in order to send txt, I must use Hangouts. This makes things complicated. Recently I sent out a few txts from Hangouts to a few POTs, and got replies back directly on my phone. This scared the crap out or me, as I do not want myture number to be known. Immediatelyremoved both Google Voice and Hangouts apps from my phone.

So, what are the other apps you gents have on your phone to communicate privately with your babies?

I use an app called Pinger, you can use the app to send texts and make phone calls (100 min is $2) and use the website to just send texts. The downsides are that pics have to sent to an email address but they come directly into the app and I've learned that if you send more than 5000 messages the app stops working, so you have to get a new number and move all of your babes over to that number. I've used it more more than an year and I find it works better than google voice. Also on an iphone you can delete the app whenever you feel heat and when you download it again everything reappears and you've lost nothing.

[ThePunter7216]

So my first full week in the sugar bowl, and it was pretty busy.

1st. Met a 25 year old single mom, struggling to pay bills, but has her own transportation, and more importantly, is kinky as hell, loves bdsm and is very submissive. After several days of texting we went straight to the FC and had a great time. She wants to make this a weekly thing. I would classify her as not quite a Nando 1 (close but a little more together than that) and maybe a closeted, inactive UTR. She did work as an escort several years ago and says she would consider doing it again.

2nd. Met a 27 year old single mom, same story, yadda yadda, not quite as kinky as the first, but also submissive. M&G and then on to the FC. We have texted since and I sense she would like to repeat, but the ball's in her court.

3rd. Had coffee with an 18 year old, super cute, just out of high school, working 2 jobs and just wants to have some fun. Thought the M&G went well but she has gone silent since, so who knows.

4th. M&G with a hot 22 year old, employed, has her shit together, makes good money. Couldn't really figure out why she was on SA other than she is possibly the most misanthropic individual I have ever met in my life, so she doesn't put much stock in traditional relationships. She also seemed like she was wound so tight she might explode. My "batshit crazy" bells were going off by the end. Pretty sure neither of us is going to follow up.

5th. Had a nice long date (more than a M&G) with a married lady in her late 30's. I think we will get along well. We have similar interests and needs and she wants to have a regular thing. And, her husband is gone all the time for work, so she can host!! Bonus!

Got a few more I'm stringing along until next week, and one UTR that has been pursuing me quite hard. So far I'm enjoying this.

[ThePunter7216]

Do these let you use your phone just like a burner phone (I. E. Multiple temporary phone numbers with voicemail, texting etc?

One thing I like about Hushed is you can quickly whip up a new phone number for a few bucks and discard it if you do something on it you don't like (LOL). It's great not only for questionable SBs but for dealing with business related calls when you're not absolutely sure you will want them contacting you long term.)

But if there are alternatives that do same, I'm always eager to hear about them.

I wouldn't do shit over Google, business or SD'ing or otherwise. Their entire business model is designed to monitor and archive everything about you. Fuck google.

All these apps let you block numbers, isn't that usually enough?

TextPlus lets you change your number, but only once.

Talkatone and WhatsApp are like GV. You can't change your number, but you can create a new account which will have a new number. I do get the sense that they both might have a problem with frequent repeated disposal and reissuing of numbers though, I. E. You have to use some discretion as to who you give the number to.

Pinger is one other one I forgot to mention. Basically same as WhatsApp.

If you want to switch numbers frequently you can try voip. Ms. The numbers cost 99 cents each, have free unlimited SMS, and can be added and deleted at the click of a button. Their SMS interface isn't the greatest. Sms. Voip. Ms. But it's manageable, especially if you're not trying to do it on a tiny phone screen.

[JZLizard]

Talkatone.
TextPlus.
WhatsApp.
There are others but those are probably the 3 biggest.

Pro-tip on the GV: I have multiple numbers. Most aren't linked to any real phone number (or real Google account) of mine.

Do these let you use your phone just like a burner phone (I. E. Multiple temporary phone numbers with voicemail, texting etc?

One thing I like about Hushed is you can quickly whip up a new phone number for a few bucks and discard it if you do something on it you don't like (LOL). It's great not only for questionable SBs but for dealing with business related calls when you're not absolutely sure you will want them contacting you long term.)

But if there are alternatives that do same, I'm always eager to hear about them.

I wouldn't do shit over Google, business or SD'ing or otherwise. Their entire business model is designed to monitor and archive everything about you. Fuck google.

[HollywoodGuy]

Speaking of money, while my batting average getting to the FC is well below the Mendosa line, with my precious spare time being occupied with these pointless M&G I have significantly cut back my consumption of other services such that I've spent much less as a wannabe SD than I used to. Weird, uh?

-SM.

After doing this a while, the only thing I know for sure, is that if you do enough M&G's, on one of those dates (and who knows how many) the stars are going to be perfectly aligned.

It might be for a night or a year. But it will happen. And that's what keeps me going. It's not a matter of if but only of when. Just don't prejudge too much and always be ready for action on a moments notice. And as much as I hate it when a score eventually goes south, I know another one is just around the corner.

This advice isn't directed at you personally, just a general post for the newbies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

[SlowMo]

Fellas,

Things necessarily quieted down for the Thanksgiving week and were a bit slow to pick up. Several "for sure M&G" pre-turkey are no longer answering. But there was movement nonetheless.

First, I had brunch with a girl I had Skype with. She's not really my type, but I thought maybe I'd warm up to her face-to-face. Nope. So I never reached back out and neither did she.

Second, I had a M&G with a 26 yr old nurse with a flexible schedule. Very tight body from what I can tell. And, perhaps most importantly, really fun and talkative. I thought we really hit it off with easy flowing convo, similar interests, good eye contact. I followed our M&G with a quick word confirming my interest in pursuing. Radio silence for 48 hrs. Too bad, she lives nearby and only has a single female roommate. Oh well. Maybe she needs to meet a few jerks before she comes to her senses.

Third, I had a M&G with a hospitality worker. Wow, hottest girl I've met to date. 5'11", maybe 125, gorgeous, evidently did some modeling. Fantastic laughter, and smart to boot. Of course, she lives out of the way, has no transportation and lives with her dad. I might splurge on this one to get her to the FC just 'cause. No feedback as of yet, but it's a bit soon.

Fourth, I need to remind you about this nursing student (feels like they are all nursing students) I've seen three times and the most we've done is a little making out on the 3rd date, in itself considerable progress from the first two. Disliking the glacial pace of this relationship, I sent her a filthy text msg over the thanksgiving break to gauge her reaction thinking I would at least stop wasting time if she was offended. She actually responded with humor, if not in kind. Been texting her every few days as I don't have time to see her. I have the sense she doesn't date much, so I'll keep treating her like a civvy as long as dates remain cheap. Maybe this long-term investment will pay off. She claims a bunch of "never done that" in the sex department. I aim to change that.

Speaking of money, while my batting average getting to the FC is well below the Mendosa line, with my precious spare time being occupied with these pointless M&G I have significantly cut back my consumption of other services such that I've spent much less as a wannabe SD than I used to. Weird, uh?

-SM.

[ThePunter7216]

I have been using Google voice the past few years as the primary method to talk and txt with the babids. It seems that Google voice is now integrTed into Google hangouts, so in order to send txt, I must use Hangouts. This makes things complicated. Recently I sent out a few txts from Hangouts to a few POTs, and got replies back directly on my phone. This scared the crap out or me, as I do not want myture number to be known. Immediatelyremoved both Google Voice and Hangouts apps from my phone.

So, what are the other apps you gents have on your phone to communicate privately with your babies?

Talkatone.

TextPlus.

WhatsApp.

There are others but those are probably the 3 biggest.

Pro-tip on the GV: I have multiple numbers. Most aren't linked to any real phone number (or real Google account) of mine.

[HollywoodGuy]

Thanks guys for all the information you've provided. I tried the SD thing a couple of years ago and although I made some of the classic mistakes (paid way too much the first time and also managed to pick up a stalker on the 2nd one), I wanted to know more. Now that I've read through all of the advice (I did RTFF) I have made wiser decisions and have managed to land my first SB. She's amazing, willing to live within my budget, and hotter than anyone I've ever dated (23,5'8, 115 and a former model). As this is my first post, I'll try and make more of an effort to post more often now that I'm starting to play in the bowl. Thanks again gents!

And post a lot of pics. LOL.

[VAJimbo]

I remember that story, and yes, in this situation the Lizard would disappear, never to be found. Unless that is you want to get to know your kid, hang out with him, and maybe put him through college.

I would ditch the current phone and number, get a new email address and if you used a web site to finder change your profile, just in case that bump is yours and she is thinking child support!

[BigLick90]

Thanks guys for all the information you've provided. I tried the SD thing a couple of years ago and although I made some of the classic mistakes (paid way too much the first time and also managed to pick up a stalker on the 2nd one), I wanted to know more. Now that I've read through all of the advice (I did RTFF) I have made wiser decisions and have managed to land my first SB. She's amazing, willing to live within my budget, and hotter than anyone I've ever dated (23,5'8, 115 and a former model). As this is my first post, I'll try and make more of an effort to post more often now that I'm starting to play in the bowl. Thanks again gents!

[JZLizard]

I have been using Google voice the past few years as the primary method to talk and txt with the babids. It seems that Google voice is now integrTed into Google hangouts, so in order to send txt, I must use Hangouts. This makes things complicated. Recently I sent out a few txts from Hangouts to a few POTs, and got replies back directly on my phone. This scared the crap out or me, as I do not want myture number to be known. Immediatelyremoved both Google Voice and Hangouts apps from my phone.

So, what are the other apps you gents have on your phone to communicate privately with your babies?

Try the Hushed app. Economical and seems to be improving all the time.