Massage Parlor Reports

[iamioman]

Sex trafficking, girls being sold, coerced and forced into sexual slavery to become prostitutes, is a very real thing and if you don't believe that then you are very naive. So, yes there are plenty of victims out there. As mongers, all we can do is keep our eyes open and not patronage places that do not have willing participants working there. And even that can be tough as those in that situation, some not even speaking english at all, are usually threatened to provide the best possible cheerful and willing service or else...

I don't think AMP related trafficking in RI is common at all (maybe cause of the loose laws that made prostitution legal until a couple of years ago), but your advice is a good rule of thumb. I feel comfortable supporting a business where the employees talk about their interests, what they do in their off time, where they live, where / when they are going on vacation etc. Its a big reason I prefer a business where the staff can communicate in english. It's hard to really get any idea what's going on when no one speaks (or admits to speaking) english.

[iamioman]

If the cops have any video evidence and if they can I'd you then they can bring you in before a Grand Jury and question you and if you lie to the grand jury under oath then your ass iscooked. Ou can deny but if word gets out on who you are I know my ass would be cooked. If the girl IDs you and tells the cops that she provided services other than a massage when you visited then there will be trouble. One reason I hate the video security cameras.

"video evidence" of what? You walking into a building that contains a legal establishment to get a massage? That doesn't prove anything except you walked into the building.

Lying only gets your ass 'cooked' if you proven to have lied. A GJ might not believe you and they could indict you but if you are found innocent you can't be found guilty for lying about something you didn't do.

Believe it or not a masseuse has as much to lose as you do. Probably more. They aren't going to I'd you as being 1/2 of an illegal transaction they are the other half of because a conviction means they will instantly be deported and won't get back into the US. Also if they admit to doing anything illegal they get their boss and the business in trouble and will get blacklisted. What massage shop is going to hire someone who told LE they were condoning illegal activities? Answer=none.

All the video security camera 'proves' is that you were there. If you don't want anyone knowing you went there, then just wear a hoodie and sunglasses until you are inside, but don't forget to leave your car at home and either park your car somewhere like a mall and pay cash for a taxi and get dropped off a few blocks away and walk the rest of the way so there will be no record of you being in the area and no record of your plates on traffic cams. And of course don't ever call a spa because even if it's a burner phone if you call a spa to confirm an appt and have the phone on you and you are arrested, there is a record of the call on your burner phone.

If you are paranoid about being found out, you should really just stay at home.

[Fly Dangler]

Sex trafficking, girls being sold, coerced and forced into sexual slavery to become prostitutes, is a very real thing and if you don't believe that then you are very naive

While true that's also oversold by the do gooders here IOT get spas shut down and it was used in a bogus manner a few years back to get our RI laws changed. Do you remember that?

Can you give us ONE example of a conviction for sex trafficking concerning a spa in RI, or even a prosecution? How about in MA, where all I can remember was two unsuccessful spa related attempts to prosecute? Try talking to the AMP providers here and you'll find they knew what they were getting in to, pay taxes, get their green cards when they're eligible and have not been coerced in any way.

[A N I M A L]

I know this is getting out of hand and the administration here is going to put this in other forums.

But all I can say is do your due diligence.

A pick a place that has a business.

Just Google and see if the business is legitimate.

That is all. Or secretary of state.

[Aluver]

not the supposed "victims" providing the service.

Sex trafficking, girls being sold, coerced and forced into sexual slavery to become prostitutes, is a very real thing and if you don't believe that then you are very naive. So, yes there are plenty of victims out there. As mongers, all we can do is keep our eyes open and not patronage places that do not have willing participants working there. And even that can be tough as those in that situation, some not even speaking english at all, are usually threatened to provide the best possible cheerful and willing service or else.

That said, what some Attorney Generals will term as a victim is very broad, not realistic and used to serve their political agendas. So yes, they are out to get us as well because riding on a moral high horse is good politics.

[NY Monger]

You can always plead the 5th.

Not a lawyer, but from guys I know, you can get busted and even if its dismissed, you still have a record and people know. For some, the SO and your job may not stand on the legal expert definitions and will just say you're morally repugnant, and "Get out!

These boards make it seem like you're shopping for a TV, but this is still illegal with real consequences if you get caught and no amount of legal nuance or definition will get you off the hook.

But its fun if you don't get caught, so, choose wisely and let the big head make decisions for a change.

[Optimus Prime]

If the cops have any video evidence and if they can I'd you then they can bring you in before a Grand Jury and question you and if you lie to the grand jury under oath then your ass iscooked. Ou can deny but if word gets out on who you are I know my ass would be cooked. If the girl IDs you and tells the cops that she provided services other than a massage when you visited then there will be trouble. One reason I hate the video security cameras.

You can always plead the 5th.

[Amp Slave]

Numbers are spot on except house is $70. 4 ladies all good to very good. Have had Bebe and Susie and enjoyed both. Coco looked sort of hot, spinner type. With Gina / Candy gone not as good for me as it once was, but still a good choice for a very pleasurable time.

Jack.

Was just there Sunday and the house fee was still. 6 . Susie was there and was always helpful as ever.

[Spectator]

I figured she put one on stealth style like some other providers have done but no, turns out it was BBFS. I would have preferred a cover so I'm not so comfortable about how that went down. Something to be aware of if aren't into BBFS.

Did she let you CIP? Very uncommon in these types of places.

[Amp Slave]

How charge customers.

If you go to a place that has a business not a place that does not. How do they charge you. They can't.

If you pick up a SW then in car ok.

But in a business place they can't. I go for massage they can't do a thing. Unless you incriminate on your self. That simple.

Do not be afraid. If you go to McDonald's and they are selling crack out of the back room do they arrest everybody eating burgers that's crazy. Walk tall and don't talk. Golden rule.

Again go to reputable place that's been around for a long time not I little hole in the wall.

If the cops have any video evidence and if they can I'd you then they can bring you in before a Grand Jury and question you and if you lie to the grand jury under oath then your ass iscooked. Ou can deny but if word gets out on who you are I know my ass would be cooked. If the girl IDs you and tells the cops that she provided services other than a massage when you visited then there will be trouble. One reason I hate the video security cameras.

[A N I M A L]

Speaking of. Hanna. Wow. What a gem. Really detail work. .

Be mongering for many years and this one is a gem. Atf. Ever.

[A N I M A L]

Here is a link to the tv report on 40 Harrison. They make a lot of story about a simple $40 HE. Are they uninformed or simply hyping it?

http://www.wcvb.com/news/5-investiga...cking/29888320

Disturbing part is that they say police are focusing on customers, not the supposed "victims" providing the service. That would be disturbing if it were true. We all know that over the years several RI AMPs have been investigated and the owners charged, but does anyone know if customers ever get charged, arrested, or name in the newspapers or TV? I do not recall any, but perhaps others know better. I usually chicken out because my name in the paper, arrest, whatever, would be disasterous for me. Would be nice to know that I have nothing to worry about in that regard.

How charge customers.

If you go to a place that has a business not a place that does not. How do they charge you. They can't.

If you pick up a SW then in car ok.

But in a business place they can't. I go for massage they can't do a thing. Unless you incriminate on your self. That simple.

Do not be afraid. If you go to McDonald's and they are selling crack out of the back room do they arrest everybody eating burgers that's crazy. Walk tall and don't talk. Golden rule.

Again go to reputable place that's been around for a long time not I little hole in the wall.

[Fly Dangler]

looking for a little spinner that takes direction well

Not a quite a spinner (too tall for that designation), but Teddy at Four Seasons, like I said in post #11389, is probably just what you're looking for based on your previous posts.

[HappyDave]

Been rtff, like pittte spinners, little riming nice but not into BBFS or BBBJ. Review of happy seems nice but a low number member. FE, 1021, OS or Pleasant, looking for a little spinner that takes direction well.

Thanks H.D.

[PinayLuver]

Here is a link to the tv report on 40 Harrison. They make a lot of story about a simple $40 HE. Are they uninformed or simply hyping it?

http://www.wcvb.com/news/5-investiga...cking/29888320

Disturbing part is that they say police are focusing on customers, not the supposed "victims" providing the service. That would be disturbing if it were true. We all know that over the years several RI AMPs have been investigated and the owners charged, but does anyone know if customers ever get charged, arrested, or name in the newspapers or TV? I do not recall any, but perhaps others know better. I usually chicken out because my name in the paper, arrest, whatever, would be disasterous for me. Would be nice to know that I have nothing to worry about in that regard.

Yes that is true. That was one of the Attorney Generals projects. Since she lost the run for Governor of Ma she won't be directly involved with it much beyond January 2015. Who knows what the new AG will do with it. And yes the new AG is from the same gender pool as the out going so we will have to see what her priority's are.