The Massholes

[Member #5037]

You of course conveniently neglected to mention that the reason she took a little vacation (she was only gone for a weekend) was because you called Uncle LEO on her.

Your the one who turned in Cassidy T Devil? Looking back at your post 90 % were about her. The other 10 % were Admin deleted. And you have video of her too? Your a dangerous person.

[Ho Hunter 328]

Again that's not what I heard. After I had written a review here with one of the Royal Touch girls who I had seen outside the agency she specifically mentioned "He" threatened to take me to court because she wasn't allowed to see anyone independently. The poor girl was visibly shaken. I laughed and told her she had nothing to worry about. Then Nyx trashed her about her drug use on the board here and she told me "funny she would say that because she shoots up too and in fact we've shot up together". She told me she actually liked Nyx very much even after all that had been threatened. So you can say she had an axe to grind but she didn't seem at all disingenuous to me.

The one time I did use the agency when I called to set up the appointment a male answered and booked me I suspect that was you. And I'm sure you also drove her to my place. She was constantly looking at the clock and when I asked her about it she said she was warned to try and make the clients get off as quick as possible and get out of there. This girl was visibly nervous and appeared intimidated by you and Nyx.

Another girl who was a friend of Freya clearly said that you were the one in charge. Although she was heavily recruited and pestered by you she never ended up working there. She was the one who drove around with you, Freya and Nyx to get a feel for the game. She didn't appear to have an axe to grind but rather was just making comments about her observations including Nyx shooting up next to her in the backseat of your car.

There was a 4th girl who I saw independently who used to work for Royal Touch. She mentioned you hassling her to take new pictures and also was emphatic that it was you who was in charge.

You may deny it but I'm on board with PW's it walks like a duck theory.

Answering phones wasn't my job, I may or may not have driven her (there were two other drivers). I know that Nyx did have all the girls sign contracts, which one of her attorney friends drew up for her. I had to sign a contract too for my photography services, as well as a non-disclosure agreement since I was privy to personal information because of my need to comply with 18 USC §§ 2257. My job was to keep pictures updated, and some girls weren't very good at keeping their scheduled shoots. So there were certainly times that I'd had to "hassle" them about it. Nyx was very emphatic about having all the girls have new pics at least every three months, and I was the one who had to listen to her complain if it wasn't done. Some girls may have had a false impression of things, because they often had more contact with me than they did with her (between me doing shoots and driving). Many of them wouldn't see Nyx for weeks at a time, and I often had to relay messages to them from her. But the core girls who were around for years had no doubt who was running things.

[Ho Hunter 328]

What I was told was the same story Yard heard and I heard it from the same girl. This girl told me what happened on her orientation day when she did a ride along with you, Kat and Freya, witnessing Kat injecting her medication etc. Yard and I compared notes and her story was very consistent leading me to believe her story was accurate. She made it very clear that you were in charge and were aggressively recruiting her. I have smelled lots of BS in my life and this girls story passed the sniff test with flying colors. I have no doubt Kat was involved in the recruiting of girls as I am sure one girl making the sales pitch to another girl is a much easier than getting the pitch from a guy but I feel that was the extent of Kat's managerial duties.

I also met another girl at a strip club in Prov and I ended up meeting with her outside the club and we got talking, turns out she was a prior employee of RT and she described the same management structure as the other girl and the IV drug use by Kat and all the other street recruits. I don't remember the exact details but she also told me you had threatened to take her to court for something to do with the agency (I would have loved to have heard the courtroom testimony). The bottom line here is that all the girls who worked for either RT or GG were all drug addicts and Kat was just a front for the agencies.

The only legal action I know of was a copyright violation case, I'd assume that was the stripper. If the other girl is who I think it was, she was rather upset when Kat told her that there wasn't as much demand for black girls. She was a friend of Freya's if I recall correctly, so Kat told her she would still put her on though if she wanted, but couldn't make any guarantees.

[Yellowfever023]

If I had been running things, don't you think I still would be doing so? Nyx offered to give me the agency when she retired, but I declined. It's just not my thing. Consider that your sources were girls that Nyx had decided to not work with for one reason or another, and that they'd therefore have an axe to grind. I helped Nyx with a few things, gave advice when asked, but ultimately she ran the show.

What I was told was the same story Yard heard and I heard it from the same girl. This girl told me what happened on her orientation day when she did a ride along with you, Kat and Freya, witnessing Kat injecting her medication etc. Yard and I compared notes and her story was very consistent leading me to believe her story was accurate. She made it very clear that you were in charge and were aggressively recruiting her. I have smelled lots of BS in my life and this girls story passed the sniff test with flying colors. I have no doubt Kat was involved in the recruiting of girls as I am sure one girl making the sales pitch to another girl is a much easier than getting the pitch from a guy but I feel that was the extent of Kat's managerial duties.

I also met another girl at a strip club in Prov and I ended up meeting with her outside the club and we got talking, turns out she was a prior employee of RT and she described the same management structure as the other girl and the IV drug use by Kat and all the other street recruits. I don't remember the exact details but she also told me you had threatened to take her to court for something to do with the agency (I would have loved to have heard the courtroom testimony). The bottom line here is that all the girls who worked for either RT or GG were all drug addicts and Kat was just a front for the agencies.

[Yardape08]

If I had been running things, don't you think I still would be doing so? Nyx offered to give me the agency when she retired, but I declined. It's just not my thing. Consider that your sources were girls that Nyx had decided to not work with for one reason or another, and that they'd therefore have an axe to grind. I helped Nyx with a few things, gave advice when asked, but ultimately she ran the show.

Again that's not what I heard. After I had written a review here with one of the Royal Touch girls who I had seen outside the agency she specifically mentioned "He" threatened to take me to court because she wasn't allowed to see anyone independently. The poor girl was visibly shaken. I laughed and told her she had nothing to worry about. Then Nyx trashed her about her drug use on the board here and she told me "funny she would say that because she shoots up too and in fact we've shot up together". She told me she actually liked Nyx very much even after all that had been threatened. So you can say she had an axe to grind but she didn't seem at all disingenuous to me.

The one time I did use the agency when I called to set up the appointment a male answered and booked me I suspect that was you. And I'm sure you also drove her to my place. She was constantly looking at the clock and when I asked her about it she said she was warned to try and make the clients get off as quick as possible and get out of there. This girl was visibly nervous and appeared intimidated by you and Nyx.

Another girl who was a friend of Freya clearly said that you were the one in charge. Although she was heavily recruited and pestered by you she never ended up working there. She was the one who drove around with you, Freya and Nyx to get a feel for the game. She didn't appear to have an axe to grind but rather was just making comments about her observations including Nyx shooting up next to her in the backseat of your car.

There was a 4th girl who I saw independently who used to work for Royal Touch. She mentioned you hassling her to take new pictures and also was emphatic that it was you who was in charge.

You may deny it but I'm on board with PW's it walks like a duck theory.

[Deb4512]

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[Ho Hunter 328]

Yes I did make the original post, as a contributor, to inform the board that Jackie was back. That was all.

I want to clarify my previous post, I do find some of Ho's contributions helpful and informative but only when he is acting as a contributor. The second new pics of one of the GG / RT girls are added he becomes an advertiser as clearly shown in Yards post. It is a fine line and my guess is he has his reasons for walking it but I stand by my duck analogy.

I've posted pics here for two reasons. First, to share with this community. Second, to advertise my photography to other girls. There are girls who read this forum but never post, who've seen my work here and contacted me about doing shoots. My primary intent was not to advertise, which is why I never included contact information for the girls.

[Ho Hunter 328]

I agree, Jack to me is nothing more than an opportunistic advertiser pitching for girls that benefit him either with photo shoots or favors. At the very least I'm guessing he is nothing more than a glorified pimp. Most of the girls he pitches for are avid not recreational drug addicts with some serious problems. Perfect example Cassidy from Brockton. He stated he sees her on the regular which I know for a fact is impossible. At the time wrote it she was just released from a state funded vacation. She got out contacted him an all of a sudden he was seeing her on the regular for weeks? Impossible. He just pitched for her again and surprise surprise she's on holiday again. If her drug problem is not that bad and under control as he states why are there videos of her nodding off in a door way in broad daylight? Why is she down to 80 lbs soaking wet and how in gods name was she sectioned by the courts again within a couple of weeks of her being released. Most of all how is it possible that Jack sees her on the regular? All of what I just wrote is fact. Unfortunately, nothing of what Jack writes about these girls should be taken seriously in fact I would be very weary of any girl that works with Jack. He only pitches girls he benefits from. Period.

You of course conveniently neglected to mention that the reason she took a little vacation (she was only gone for a weekend) was because you called Uncle LEO on her.

[Ho Hunter 328]

That's not what I've heard. Come on Jack you have always been the real man running the show behind the curtain with Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends. I've been told this by several employees of yours. Nyx was just a convenient foil for you on this board so you could take a back seat and pretend to be solely the driver and photographer.

Of course Nyx came from the same recruiting pool as all the girls I. E. "North Main St Brockton MA Streetwalkers Association". She must have been one of the brighter ones as you like to say a streetwalker with computer skills but nonetheless mired in her own addiction. Whenever a negative review came up of one of the girls doing drugs, or lifting wallets and watches from a customer, Nyx would assume the holier than thou posture proclaiming that that sort of thing would not be tolerated when in fact she was right in the shooting gallery mix.

My favorite story is of one of your GG outcall adventures with you behind the wheel, Freya as co-pilot and Nyx and my friend who you were trying to recruit in the backseat with Nyx shooting up in your car on the way to an outcall. My friend was just out of drug treatment at the time and horrified by the experience.

I was also told by another of your former employees that the girls were always encouraged by you and Nyx to make haste on their sessions so the outcall visits were as abbreviated as possible. Yet another employee also told me you threatened to take her to court because she worked for you and she had seen me on the side without your agency's knowledge.

Although you have certainly proved your worth here as a veteran expert hobbyist it seems that you should probably be categorized as a Forum Advertiser. Time to come clean with all of this. All Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends ever did for members of this board is to drive the price up of girls who were already available on the street. While there's no rule against that it's the subterfuge that's gone on here under the guise of running a respectable agency that's the problem. I don't begrudge you trying to be an entrepreneur and make some $ off all of this but the fellow members of this board have been duped for far too long.

If I had been running things, don't you think I still would be doing so? Nyx offered to give me the agency when she retired, but I declined. It's just not my thing. Consider that your sources were girls that Nyx had decided to not work with for one reason or another, and that they'd therefore have an axe to grind. I helped Nyx with a few things, gave advice when asked, but ultimately she ran the show.

[Yardape08]

True, but he doesn't hurt anybody here as far as I know anyway, and Jack's comments are often useful. And-eh, I think I remember seeing him posting a review or two, especially in Brockton street section. Did I?

He is in fact a pimp who frequently intimidated and bullied his girls and has been perpetuating a fraud here for quite some time. There are legions of posts going back several years that back this up. Now one could make the argument that they were his employees although I'm sure there were no contracts signed nor 1099's issued. Because he had Nyx as his foil there was a lot of rumpswabbery going on here. I used to point things out from time to time and they would follow a pattern of laying low afterwards until the storm passed. Silence often always speaks volumes.

[Nrlmus]

Yes I did make the original post, as a contributor, to inform the board that Jackie was back. That was all.

I want to clarify my previous post, I do find some of Ho's contributions helpful and informative but only when he is acting as a contributor. The second new pics of one of the GG / RT girls are added he becomes an advertiser as clearly shown in Yards post. It is a fine line and my guess is he has his reasons for walking it but I stand by my duck analogy.

True, but he doesn't hurt anybody here as far as I know anyway, and Jack's comments are often useful. And-eh, I think I remember seeing him posting a review or two, especially in Brockton street section. Did I?

[TDevil]

I agree, Jack to me is nothing more than an opportunistic advertiser pitching for girls that benefit him either with photo shoots or favors. At the very least I'm guessing he is nothing more than a glorified pimp. Most of the girls he pitches for are avid not recreational drug addicts with some serious problems. Perfect example Cassidy from Brockton. He stated he sees her on the regular which I know for a fact is impossible. At the time wrote it she was just released from a state funded vacation. She got out contacted him an all of a sudden he was seeing her on the regular for weeks? Impossible. He just pitched for her again and surprise surprise she's on holiday again. If her drug problem is not that bad and under control as he states why are there videos of her nodding off in a door way in broad daylight? Why is she down to 80 lbs soaking wet and how in gods name was she sectioned by the courts again within a couple of weeks of her being released. Most of all how is it possible that Jack sees her on the regular? All of what I just wrote is fact. Unfortunately, nothing of what Jack writes about these girls should be taken seriously in fact I would be very weary of any girl that works with Jack. He only pitches girls he benefits from. Period.

That's not what I've heard. Come on Jack you have always been the real man running the show behind the curtain with Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends. I've been told this by several employees of yours. Nyx was just a convenient foil for you on this board so you could take a back seat and pretend to be solely the driver and photographer.

Of course Nyx came from the same recruiting pool as all the girls I. E. "North Main St Brockton MA Streetwalkers Association". She must have been one of the brighter ones as you like to say a streetwalker with computer skills but nonetheless mired in her own addiction. Whenever a negative review came up of one of the girls doing drugs, or lifting wallets and watches from a customer, Nyx would assume the holier than thou posture proclaiming that that sort of thing would not be tolerated when in fact she was right in the shooting gallery mix.

My favorite story is of one of your GG outcall adventures with you behind the wheel, Freya as co-pilot and Nyx and my friend who you were trying to recruit in the backseat with Nyx shooting up in your car on the way to an outcall. My friend was just out of drug treatment at the time and horrified by the experience.

I was also told by another of your former employees that the girls were always encouraged by you and Nyx to make haste on their sessions so the outcall visits were as abbreviated as possible. Yet another employee also told me you threatened to take her to court because she worked for you and she had seen me on the side without your agency's knowledge.

Although you have certainly proved your worth here as a veteran expert hobbyist it seems that you should probably be categorized as a Forum Advertiser. Time to come clean with all of this. All Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends ever did for members of this board is to drive the price up of girls who were already available on the street. While there's no rule against that it's the subterfuge that's gone on here under the guise of running a respectable agency that's the problem. I don't begrudge you trying to be an entrepreneur and make some $ off all of this but the fellow members of this board have been duped for far too long.

[Member #4868]

Not to offer a defense but if you recall you were the one who posted the inital find. I picked it up and threw the question out to him. Jack responded and elaborated about it. But at no time did he embellish about the topic. (And seeing Jacki WAS a mistake but I'm not going to begrudge Jack for that.) And when he did discuss it he was responding to inquires. As far as GG or RT I never use an agency. As Yardie indicated most of their employee's were a common sight on North Main after working their regular job. I think an intresting point about Jack's post's has been made though. For a Monger that gets out as much as he indicates you'd think he'd post more than best time to "cruise a location". Forum advertiser? Hmmm. Freya does come to mind. Since GG and RT have shut down I think he's become more a lurker than a contributer.

Yes I did make the original post, as a contributor, to inform the board that Jackie was back. That was all.

I want to clarify my previous post, I do find some of Ho's contributions helpful and informative but only when he is acting as a contributor. The second new pics of one of the GG / RT girls are added he becomes an advertiser as clearly shown in Yards post. It is a fine line and my guess is he has his reasons for walking it but I stand by my duck analogy.

[Member #5013]

That's not what I've heard. Come on Jack you have always been the real man running the show behind the curtain with Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends. I've been told this by several employees of yours. Nyx was just a convenient foil for you on this board so you could take a back seat and pretend to be solely the driver and photographer.

Of course Nyx came from the same recruiting pool as all the girls I. E. "North Main St Brockton MA Streetwalkers Association". She must have been one of the brighter ones as you like to say a streetwalker with computer skills but nonetheless mired in her own addiction. Whenever a negative review came up of one of the girls doing drugs, or lifting wallets and watches from a customer, Nyx would assume the holier than thou posture proclaiming that that sort of thing would not be tolerated when in fact she was right in the shooting gallery mix.

My favorite story is of one of your GG outcall adventures with you behind the wheel, Freya as co-pilot and Nyx and my friend who you were trying to recruit in the backseat with Nyx shooting up in your car on the way to an outcall. My friend was just out of drug treatment at the time and horrified by the experience.

I was also told by another of your former employees that the girls were always encouraged by you and Nyx to make haste on their sessions so the outcall visits were as abbreviated as possible. Yet another employee also told me you threatened to take her to court because she worked for you and she had seen me on the side without your agency's knowledge.

Although you have certainly proved your worth here as a veteran expert hobbyist it seems that you should probably be categorized as a Forum Advertiser. Time to come clean with all of this. All Royal Touch and Goddess Girlfriends ever did for members of this board is to drive the price up of girls who were already available on the street. While there's no rule against that it's the subterfuge that's gone on here under the guise of running a respectable agency that's the problem. I don't begrudge you trying to be an entrepreneur and make some $ off all of this but the fellow members of this board have been duped for far too long.

It's nice to hear an honest opinion and not some bullshit whining of a monger sticking up for a provider he has goo goo eyes for because she was "disrespected".

I always enjoyed Ho's commentary but took it as biased opinions.

Thank you Yard. Your opinion and reviews are appreciated.

BB.

[Member #5037]

Recent case in point would be Jackie. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.

Not to offer a defense but if you recall you were the one who posted the inital find. I picked it up and threw the question out to him. Jack responded and elaborated about it. But at no time did he embellish about the topic. (And seeing Jacki WAS a mistake but I'm not going to begrudge Jack for that.) And when he did discuss it he was responding to inquires. As far as GG or RT I never use an agency. As Yardie indicated most of their employee's were a common sight on North Main after working their regular job. I think an intresting point about Jack's post's has been made though. For a Monger that gets out as much as he indicates you'd think he'd post more than best time to "cruise a location". Forum advertiser? Hmmm. Freya does come to mind. Since GG and RT have shut down I think he's become more a lurker than a contributer.